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Late To The Party - Interstellar

January 03, 2024
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Late To The Party - Interstellar
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Embark on a voyage through time and space as Phil & Eric confess their tardiness to Christopher Nolan's cosmic ballet, "Interstellar." Imagine the regret that comes from only now discovering the immense narrative depth and the visual splendor of a film that's been orbiting the public consciousness for nearly a decade. In our candid exchange, we dissect the film's gripping storyline, the powerful score, and Matthew McConaughey's performance that should've been written in the stars. It's a conversation sprinkled with awe and a touch of self-reproach for letting this gem slip by.

As we navigate the wormholes of "Interstellar," we contemplate its portrayal of a dying Earth, humanity's space-bound hope, and the seamless blend of scientific theory with riveting storytelling. The film's magnetic pull prompts a yearning to sift through its layers with each viewing, even as we grapple with the mind-bending aspects of its third act. Praises are sung for Michael Caine and Matt Damon's performances, while we muse on the ambitious narrative choices that may leave some viewers starry-eyed and others searching for a tether.

Our cosmic chat isn't confined to the silver screen; we explore Nolan's position in the celestial body of cinema, pondering the enigma of "Interstellar's" awards season trajectory and the critics' dance with his oeuvre. This episode isn't just about looking back—it's an invitation to look up at the night sky, to the stars where "Interstellar" resides, and to join us in a stellar conversation that transcends time.

IMDb Synopsis:  When Earth becomes uninhabitable in the future, a farmer and ex-NASA pilot, Joseph Cooper, is tasked to pilot a spacecraft, along with a team of researchers, to find a new planet for humans.

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

Mr Eric Almighty and Phil the Filipino.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they've got you covered and all you gotta do is Wait for it. Hey everyone, welcome back to the Wait for it podcast. I'm your co-host, phil Smith, aka Phil the Filipino, and joining me, as always, is your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty Folks. Happy new year, welcome to 2024. You actually are there before we are, because we're still recording this in the past. We're in 2023. Oh, eric, time travel it's already happening in this episode. How wild is that. We are talking to our future audience here this evening and super excited to talk about this month's episode of Late to the Party, first episode of the year, january 2024. We hope you guys all had a safe and happy new year, but even though it's a brand new year, we don't stop working. We are right back at it to bring you guys some awesome content. And, eric, we are kicking it off with a bang with an incredibly critically acclaimed film that I cannot believe, I didn't even realize is almost a decade old at this point. So late to the party, we certainly are with this one.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and you know we have talked about Christopher Nolan with Oppenheimer in 2023. We really enjoyed that movie. We like to think we're big fans of his filmography, so it's kind of shocking that we haven't seen this movie. You're the Matthew McConaughey guy, Like everything literally had it lined up for us to have watched this prior to now. And here we are. Late to the party. We are going to talk about Interstellar openly and freely some stuff we liked, some stuff we didn't understand. But, man, I think, Phil, I can speak for both of us. I'm excited to talk about this one. This is I think this is what the probably most recently to the party that we're like really excited to talk about. Just to talk about some of the last ones that we've covered Since September. It's been the bear, which was a mixed party for the two of us. Nope, mixed bag. Shin Godzilla was what it was and then Spirited Away, which, of course, you're infamous for. So I really feel like this is just going to breathe new life into us. But I got to say, if you have not watched Interstellar, I regret not seeing this movie in the last decade. So, if that's anything at all, before you click off this episode and come back later. Go check it out.

Speaker 2:

Listen, it is a three hour runtime, basically, but go watch the movie and then come back. I think you will be very glad that you did. And, eric, I will say this Well, do we now forgive Christopher Nolan for tenant? I don't know I will say I will say I'd be more damning answer.

Speaker 1:

I'd be more open to rewatching tenant Maybe maybe, but I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I think I would just rewatch this, to be honest with you. Instead, I kind of want to. Well, you guys are here to hear the giddiness in our voices again, as Eric alluded to, about talking to this. Hopefully, after this episode, I'm allowed to watch movies and critique them again. You guys let me know if I have gained that right back. Yes, we are talking about the 2014 Christopher Nolan film, interstellar, and this is our series late to the party. If you are looking for the rest of our library, for those episodes that Eric mentioned, stick around to the very end and we'll let you know where you can find all that and all the rest of our content. But, eric, let's jump into this here. I'll give you guys a very quick synopsis. When Earth becomes uninhabitable in the future, a farmer and an ex-NASA pilot, joseph Cooper, is tasked to pilot a spacecraft along with a team of researchers to find a new planet for humans. Now, eric, obviously we knew about the existence of this film, you know in the Nolanverse, and we know we have. We're, like you said, big fans of his work. For the most part, the only thing I really knew about this movie and I think it benefited me was the meme right, the Matthew McConaughey lights in his eyes meme, and we finally get to see you where that happened and the context of it. But other than that I really didn't know too much about it. Like there's a sub-sect, I think, of sci-fi, space films that I have kind of missed out on. This is one of them, gravity being another that we've talked about, also off the podcast. So I am glad this is the one that we chose and, as I mentioned, it is a long runtime. When I first saw that I was a little intimidated just because you know that's a lot of time to commit during your day and I watched this a little bit differently than you did. I think you watched it in one sit down, I broke it up into two parts, so I watched half yesterday, half today and, oddly enough, this is where some brilliant filmmaking from Christopher Nolan came in, and we'll talk about that a little bit later. But, eric, there are examples of movies that come along and I think you know, while you're experiencing them you're like, oh, this is film, like this is what people are going to school for and learning about and what they are so passionate about, and very rarely, I think, do we come across a project where story, performances, score which is incredible everything comes together and makes a film as impactful as this? And, like you said, I'm just kind of bummed that we missed out on it for almost 10 years. Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1:

I got to echo everything you said, phil, and it's so crazy that this movie does what it does in the three hours. I would have watched another hour of this movie. I was sucked in from start to finish. There is a lot that I feel I didn't get to appreciate on this first viewing, for things that you mentioned, like this is what people go to school to do and accomplish, and like study. This film should be studied 100%. There are a lot of elements in this film and you know, we'll kind of get to that on what worked versus what didn't work for our first viewing experience. But I don't even want to get there yet because, like, I genuinely just want to gush about the movie, and not only is it visually appealing, this is a excellent cast when it comes to the entire group of actors and actresses in this film. Obviously, let's start off from the jump, with Matthew McConaughey as Cooper, I think, and, phil, I'm not going to look it up right now. You want to? You can? Somebody can tell us in the comments. I don't know if he got nominated for an Oscar for this, but it was good. It was very, very good At the heart of this film. This movie is about a father and a daughter and saving the world Like it's. It's such a simplistic story at its core and you need both of those actors or actresses to do really well. Matthew McConaughey killed it, and so did both of the actresses that played Murph I think it was Mackenzie Foy and Jessica Chastain. Both did great, great jobs in their limited screen time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like you said, I mean being a big Matthew McConaughey fan and obviously a lot of that stems from, at least initially, when I was younger. You know from his his romcom roles and his comedic roles. But we kind of turned the corner with Matthew McConaughey. It was probably around this time, I'm not sure, when the first season of True Detective came out, but like this was the Matthew McConaughey Renaissance, right, like we had turned this quarter from being a romcom comedy guy into this serious actor. And I, you know he paid his dues, right, like he honed his craft in some of those campy films and now you know he is renowned as one of the best actors in Hollywood. And yeah, the the performances have to be super strong because there's a lot of silence in this movie and it's the type of silence that like I could have picture it while I was watching the movie Eric of just us being in the theater completely silent. You hear somebody open the bag of candy at the wrong time or cough or something like that, and you just want to tell him to shut the hell up because everything that is happening is so enthralling. And yeah, like you said, I mean with Matthew McConaughey and Hathaway, who is somehow underrated and underappreciated, but I don't think by us, you know. It just feels like her name isn't brought up enough, even though like how outstanding she is. Obviously, since it's a Nolan movie, we have Michael Cain show up, so that was great and I didn't even know that. I mean, there's so many and we'll get to this in a moment so many people in this film that I didn't even know we're in here. I mean, you talk about John Lithgow, timmy Chalamet in 2014, which was wild, and then, of course, a complete bastard that shows up a little bit later. That we'll talk about a little bit later in this episode.

Speaker 1:

Fucking asshole dude. How could he do that? This movie that's part of it, right? Like this movie had so many great elements you were talking about, like the deafening silence when they are in space, it was uncomfortable, like there are uncomfortable moments in this movie and this movie teeters on the edge of being too depressing. It really does, because it does not go well at all. And again, this is the first time me and Philip got to talk about this. We are a decade late to the party. So just final reminder if you haven't seen this movie, I really would implore you, instead of listening to us right now, put it on pause. Come back after you've seen the film. That's how much I'm endorsing this movie is to literally don't listen to us anymore If you haven't seen it. So this movie, it just takes off. And you talked about the meme worthy moment of the movie and I kind of want to skip to that because that happens fairly early. I thought that was a surprise.

Speaker 2:

I thought that was the end. Yeah, I thought that was the end of the movie.

Speaker 1:

When that scene came up and I want to kind of skip ahead to that. You know they do such a good job with the father daughter relationship. Things are weird, you know, on how this all unfolds they do circle back to it, which I appreciated it, but things pick up pretty quickly from we're just farmers to I'm going to be on this ship, and they navigate through that just fine, and we get to this first planet and they waste, they lost all that time and I don't know if it's because I'm a parent. I don't know if it's because of a parent. I don't know if I saw this film in 2014, before my son was born, if I would have felt differently. But man, I don't care that. It was a meme. That scene almost got me. That scene sucked.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it, like you said, I mean, it's so meme, it's so memeable now, but it is a scene now that will live in infamy with me and you know, and like you said, you know as a parent, it certainly hits even more. And I don't know if you notice this and I've had the benefit of also watching a few YouTube videos. I know you've been a little bit more busy today after you had watched the movie, so I didn't even really notice it, just because I was so encapsulated in what was going on. But in Hans Zimmer score which of course that's why it's amazing it's our guy, hans Zimmer. So good, yeah, so it is score. When they're on that water planet, there is ticking happening in that score and I didn't, and somebody did the math on one of the YouTube videos I watched and based off of, you know, one hour is seven years on on Earth Based on the ticking. Each tick is basically 24 hours in Earth time and I'm like I'm going to go back and watch this and that ticking is going to haunt me and like they stopped talking about, like the person who I landed there before they're just died minutes before and they don't even see like the giant wave receding in the background and all the stuff. But yeah, like you said, nothing really goes right. And they talk about Murphy's Law, right, what can go wrong will go wrong, and shit goes wrong quite often in this film. And you get to that first planet and then really just kind of the Simpleton in me is like, how are they going to live? No one's going to live here, right, it's just a bunch of why there's no way that's going to happen. And I want to talk to you also about, like the robots that are in it and like they move kind of like strangely. But I think it's really just because we're conditioned to see like the T 800 and you know, in Terminator or whatever, like I was never really thrown off by that where you I thought maybe when I first I saw it I was like, oh, this machine is coming with them to this point, like on this expedition, and then you see it like spinning the water and carrying it, I was like carrying it, carrying it again, it was like half the way it's like, yeah, it was odd, but it also felt right.

Speaker 1:

Like when I looked at it I was like, oh, so that's just if Christopher Nolan made a robot like it, kind of it kind of made sense somehow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was. It was strange that it didn't bother me, because I think in a less well put together story I'd have been like this is so stupid. But within this universe I was like, oh yeah, you know, and they talk about in the beginning how that specific AI and that robot was in the military. You know, this is years and years in the future, so that was some also some context. I had to kind of go back and research as well, just because there is so much going on here, and this is one of those instances where you just really don't mind having to go back and research or watch again, because you are, you're invested in this story, because I think it's in a future that doesn't really seem too improbable. You know what I mean. Like we're 10 years removed from the movie, but it's like something like this could happen. You know, I'm not sure. You know, I'm not sure. And a lot of the science. Christopher Nolan wanted to make sure that some of the science was at least plausible. They didn't want it to like. They didn't want to just write off some science fiction nonsense. Everything in here is something that has been proposed by a scientist in real life, which shows in the final product. How much work they put into this.

Speaker 1:

No, I agree with that and I do like that. It's not a movie that you do need to fully understand the first time. I think it brings you along with just enough information to make it enjoyable, and I am. You know it is weird to hear a say this after literally all the comments or the opposite that you've had for films like Speared it away and the boy in the hair in. But I also have made comments like you shouldn't have to go see YouTube videos to understand a movie, but like I want to go watch those, like I want to, I'm going to and I do plan on seeing this movie At some point a second time. It has sat with me so much Since then. And you know, phil, you bring up the, the whole thing that happened in this you know version of earth, it these dust storms that are just absolutely terrifying to see and Obviously, life is becoming Inhabitable. It's not, it's not an option anymore. So when this, this whole journey to space, happens, you get the reasoning behind it, you understand the journey and, even though it feels it really does feel, feel like not too much happened while they were out in space, so much happened and that's kind of the crazy thing that I think this film does so effectively. They also then, you know, really bring us along with a lot of these characters. Michael Cain did a great job, as you know, professor brand, which is the father of Anne Hathaway's character, he did a great job. And then they bring, you know, as, as they turn, that character and the reveal, that plan a was never gonna happen. Then they bring in the asshole known as Matt Damon. Who, uh, you, son of a bitch, matt Damon, the second he came on screen, you know you get to this next planet and the way they get to this planet is to undermine, you know, anne Hathaway's character, because the planet she wants to go to, even though it has better data, it has someone that she cares about, so she's compromised in that way and they ultimately make the wrong decision, and you know right away, because they land on this fucking ice planet. Phil, I was like you're not getting me twice that you're not frozen clouds.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm not gonna be twice.

Speaker 1:

And Matt Damon I don't care what he said, I didn't believe it for a second. I was like look at this planet. There's no way, no way.

Speaker 2:

And this this is where we're gonna live. You. We landed on a cloud. My man, what are you? What are you talking about?

Speaker 1:

when they came into the planet and somebody said this clouds frozen. I was like nah, we're getting out of here now and I just think it set up such such an interesting you know situation to unfold that they get to this planet, they get duped and then everything from there. Phil, this is kind of where I want to transition into. If there was anything that like held the film back for you, I think the films first two acts are extremely strong, and when the film just kind of takes a little peg down is the third act. For me, you know, this movie doesn't explain everything to you, but it also should explain a little bit to the casual viewer and again, for someone who has never been into the economics and symmetry of when a black hole Goes into the fifth dimension, you know, maybe a little breakdown of what that all happened there that would be up on your black hole knowledge, eric.

Speaker 2:

What is your? Don't? Don't critique black hole movies anymore.

Speaker 1:

Maybe that would have been helpful because a lot of that I had to suspend my belief and I did, I really did. But I kind of like took a Scientific approach to watching the movie, like how they went into space, some of the things, the way the film was being shot. I didn't really feel like I was suspending my belief. To your point earlier, this movie felt like grounded in a sense, like a world we would live in, a situation that would happen. But when we got to that third act I felt like I was suspending my belief a little bit more than I was in that grounded Reality. Does that make sense? Did you feel that way?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it was more of a as far as the third act. I think it was more of a surprising turn because we had spent most of this movie being relatively grounded, all things considered, and then all of a sudden Matt Dain is trying to murder Matthew McConaughey in a frozen cloud you know what I mean. Like it took that really sharp turn into Action tropes and we had we weren't watching an action film. Right, it was sci-fi, but it was not a point where these two are fist fighting galaxies far, far away. But other than that, like I did see a video where some of the critique for this film has been exactly what you were saying Is that it doesn't really explain everything to the viewer, specifically the portion where he goes into the black hole and he is monitoring Murph, you know, through the, the time warp or the Tesseract, whatever it is, and you know that's definitely a part that I had to go in and figure out and learn more about. I understood what was happening. I didn't understand how it was happening. I guess, and you know there are a bunch of theories out there as far as, like you said, and people have broken this film down for years now on YouTube, so there is a plethora of information out there now that people have had the time to dissect it and watch it over and over and over again and I think that's maybe one of the benefits is that we are ten years removed from it. So now we get the benefit of seeing here's what people think, here's what people theorize, and here's how people have Conceptualized and broken it down at least what what they think, and I think that's really beneficial to us. It also means there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen, so you can kind of pick and choose, I think, how you feel it happened, you know, because again it's a little bit convoluted, you know, is it another race? Did we make this? The theory that I watched is that it was actually Tars who had created, or AI specifically who had created, this like vortex, and you know a lot of stuff out there. So there is going to be a portion in the audience. I think that is turned off by that for sure, and they were, from what I understand. But again, I was just so In love with the story that it really didn't bother me too much.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and considering where we thought this ending was heading, which is Cooper dying and not getting that Reuniting with his daughter, which is the whole thing, a whole shebang, the what, the reason why you're invested, the fact that we got it, I think, was worth it. I really liked the ending of this movie. It left you with the feeling of hope, which was really nice, because, again, this movie does not give you much of that Three hour red time, it it does not hold your hand and it's gonna, it's gonna make you suffer a little bit. So this, um, this was great. I should mention that my son was watching this with us and he was in. He was in the zone for about two and a half hours. I was like, but you don't got to watch this and he was like, nah, I'm, I'm in it.

Speaker 2:

Well, he's a future theater kid, so he's, he's, he's in his element.

Speaker 1:

So he was having a grand old time, you know, getting to see all the visual aspects. And again, the cinematography of this movie, the music and the score for this film in the acting are all just so top notch. Phil, I'm very curious, you know, I want to hear how Interstellar has done as far as ratings and things, and I'm sure we'll talk about our ratings. But I'm more curious, just to kind of kick it off, where does this kind of rank in your Christopher Nolan movies? Because I'm going to be honest with you, I don't know if this is a hot take.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, I don't know if this is a hot take about that.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if this is a hot take. I kind of wish I saw this prior to Oppenheimer, because I, oh, I am going to rate these two movies the same, but I cannot express how much on the opposite ends of their scores they are. So I mean, I have it like I have it better than Oppenheimer Same score, which we'll talk about in a minute but I think this is one of his best films. That isn't the Dark Knight.

Speaker 2:

Or I mean Inception. A lot of people talk about Inception, of course, as well, and you talked about it earlier. I can't believe like this was nominated for the 87th Academy Awards for Best Original Score, Best Production Design, Best Sound Editing and Best Sound Mixing, and it won Best Visual Effects. So not sure what was going on during that year as far as picture, Best picture no.

Speaker 1:

Best actor no Wow.

Speaker 2:

No, yeah, american Sniper came out that year, birdman boyhood, grand Budapest Hotel, more films than I haven't seen, so, but that's pretty wild to me. But, man, that is a good question. I didn't even think about that. It might be right there behind the Dark Knight and tied with Inception, because you know we love that film as well. Another movie that you're just OK with going back and watching. Oddly enough, I haven't seen the Prestige, and I'm pretty sure you have, but I haven't, and I love that movie, so yeah, I've heard it. I've heard it's excellent. I've just never gone, or Dunkirk. I don't think I've seen Dunkirk either. I think you saw Dunkirk.

Speaker 1:

No, I did not, but I want to now. No, like Dunkirk is a movie that's been on my radar and it's kind of funny because this is the movie, Phil, Like I told you Interstellar for this month's episode, and you were like hell yeah, like you've never, you have not jumped to a movie that quickly in quite a while. So it was very.

Speaker 2:

It's funny that we talk about Nolan in the way that I think people try to talk about Zack Snyder, like you talked about Zack Snyder in the end of the year awards and now we're talking about Christopher. Nolan is acknowledged as an amazing filmmaker, but so is Zack Snyder, for reasons. So it's just interesting that they juxtaposition like this is day and night for totally different totally different quality it doesn't make any sense. So, yeah, I think it might be right there, right behind the Dark Knight, probably tied with the exception. God, what a, what a great list of films I'm looking at Right there's 10.

Speaker 1:

There's 10.

Speaker 2:

But you know, the rest are really good Sometimes you have a bad one.

Speaker 1:

So, phil, how did this movie kind of score among critics and audiences? And then why don't we get into our actual Letterbox scores?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this kind of surprised me and I'm wondering what it was at the time. So, again, we're talking about a 2014 film, currently 73 percent to meter meter score, which is still certified fresh, 86 percent audience score. And again, a lot of that could be because some people get long runtime, a little bit of a convoluted story, and sometimes that's not what people go to the movies for. I go to the movies for two different reasons when I go see a movie like Interstellar, and when I go see a movie like I saw last night and anybody by you some one of those movies you can turn your brain off for, and the other one you have to really pay attention and, let's be honest, sometimes people aren't paying attention in the movie theater or at home, whatever the case may be, but it did kind of surprise me that that wasn't higher.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and obviously you have to really pay attention to Sidney Sweeney. So we know which movie you were referencing out of the two. It was weird that movie was silent.

Speaker 2:

There was no, like no one was talking. It was like Interstellar. It was like Interstellar, like they were in space.

Speaker 1:

Weird, weird way to combine these two films a decade later. Absolutely crazy how you did that.

Speaker 2:

We have to do a. We have to make a Christopher Nolan list now on Nutterboxed. Any reason to just make more lists? Honestly, we'll do it. Yeah, no, so and I'm not surprised, Phil to go back to your point, before we do our letterbox scores.

Speaker 1:

I'm not surprised that critics kind of like this movie less than audiences, because again, there are obvious I don't even want to call them necessarily plot holes, but there are issues with the plot in the sense that the movie doesn't clearly explain how we get from point A to point B, and I think a lot of that has to do with that third act. It also is a long movie like especially when you're going into this film, phil. I may not have enjoyed this as much if I didn't make the decision last night to watch it in the morning because it was like nine o'clock. I had been moving stuff around the house post Christmas all day. I'm also not feeling the best the past couple of days, so I was like struggling and I was like I cannot watch a three hour movie and be up till midnight. So I waited literally till nine am. The next morning, went to bed early and I was fresh, rejuvenated, how my couple of days had early and I was fresh, rejuvenated, how my cup of coffee. So I feel like you also have to be in the right mindset to watch this type of film, because it is intense, it's a lot, yeah for sure.

Speaker 2:

And we talked about this in our end of the year awards like I'm not in a rush to go watch Oppenheimer, but when I get myself in that proper mindset to do so I'll be strapped in for the ride and ready to go. I will say I'll be watching this again a lot sooner than when I watch Oppenheimer again, just to show it to people specifically like my sister who has never seen it before. But yeah, let's get to our Letterbox reviews here. Eric, right now it was an average of a 4.3. So it is holding pretty steady there and I think on IMDB it has a 8.7. So a lot of people feeling probably the same way that we do. I do want to point out the best review that's on here. It's actually featured on the Letterbox page and it says tell me you wouldn't cry if your son grew up to be Casey Affleck.

Speaker 1:

Okay, that feels. That feels wrong. It was a little difficult to watch. Why are you bullying them? It was, it was a little bit of a stretch. You know. I mentioned that the switch from from the young shall make. Yeah, from the young Murph to the older Murph, to go from Timothy shall amade to Casey. Affleck was a was a big, big adjustment.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I thought that was really fun. I went that out.

Speaker 1:

Also Tofer Grace making an appearance.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's right, oh, that's what I forgot to mention is they kept this a secret as far as Tofer Grace, matt Damon and Casey Affleck as far as them being in the movie, because they didn't want people wondering where is Matt Damon the whole time. So apparently in the trailers he's not in the original trailers, which is a good move. You don't want people wondering, you know. We're like like remember when we saw Godzilla. What do you mean? Brian Cranston, he's in the whole trailer.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, I've never recovered from that moment. I've never felt.

Speaker 2:

I've never felt more duped. It is a canon event in our lives of watching.

Speaker 1:

I just remember looking over to you like, are you fucking kidding me? The movie just started.

Speaker 2:

Honestly, I feel like if they had just kept Brian Cranstall alive, that might have turned your whole opinion around on the Monsterverse.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, 100% changed everything. Every like 15 to 20 minutes just cut to him in the conference room. I would have taken that.

Speaker 2:

Him and Ken Watanabe.

Speaker 1:

Give me that whole movie Just talking. Let them fight.

Speaker 2:

And he's like no, let them cook, he'll just be like you're goddamn right. You're goddamn right, yeah, but I ended up giving this a four and a half. It is going on, probably upon another watch. It will probably go into my favorite movies of all time list. It was that good and, as we already stated, I am looking forward to watching this again and experience it. Honestly, it's one of those films you can make the argument and be like man. I wish I could watch that for the first time again, but now I am excited to go back and watch it again with what I know now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was torn about this and I do think another watch is going to be necessary to solidify the score because, phil, again letterbox please. It's a 4.25 right now and I have to choose. Is it a four and a half or is it a four? Right now I'm leaning to a four and again four. For me, this is a movie that I would actively put on. This isn't a movie in the threes that I would have on in the background and I'd like maybe sit down and watch it. This is a movie I actively want to watch and I'd break somebody along for the ride. A four and a half is like a must watch. A four and a half is like this is going to be one of my favorite films that I've ever seen. It's going to be a repeat watching type of film. I don't know if we're quite there because of that third act, but that could easily change. I don't know that this will ever go into my top 10 all time for the reasons that I've kind of mentioned, but I cannot stress it enough. That should not take away from this film. This is one of the best and maybe most impactful movies I've seen really in the last decade. So if that says anything at all. Hopefully that just puts the nail on the coffin.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I totally agree. This isn't in my top 10 for sure, but I would say it's probably one of the best 25 to 30 movies I've seen in my lifetime and I wouldn't be surprised if it's if it sits there for a whole bunch of people. I mean man talking about some of these performances and just Hans Zimmer being incredible at everything that he does. And yeah, man, as far as Christopher Nolan, like the last thing, obviously we remember if Oppenheimer was outstanding, but again Tenet left that like weird taste in our mouths and again, it's probably a film that probably by now I can go back and rewatch and reanalyze now, a couple of years removed. But yeah, everything about this lived up to the hype and more, and I'm glad we finally got to see the iconic scene and put some context to it. And also what the crazy part is, you know and that I meant to mention that earlier when we see that transition where Murph is transmitting to her dad, you know she turns it off and it switches to her perspective. That is the exact halfway point of the film, an hour and 24 minutes in. And again, just stuff that you wouldn't know unless you went in and researched it a little bit. I think that's the whole thing is like I don't want to know more about movies that I don't enjoy, but when it comes to stuff like this, I'm like hell yeah, I'm going to do an absolute deep dive and I'll watch a 35 minute video on YouTube. Sign me up and then go watch it again.

Speaker 1:

So it's literally your favorite thing to do. So, like it is between that and terrarium builds and Jurassic World builds.

Speaker 2:

Jurassic World evolution.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so confusing.

Speaker 2:

And Canada is building a massive enclosure in his house. Just so you guys know, Philip stop.

Speaker 1:

Stop, I'll put in the show notes no, you will not get him on. You will not get him on.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to get him on for creator spotlight and we're going to talk and keeping for an hour. Oh my God.

Speaker 1:

Please. Anyway, I think that's where we ended. I think this was a great episode. We are actively discussing now, literally in the post, credits that we show on Patreon, which we'll get back to in a moment. We're going to be discussing, like, what our next late to the party is, yet those well in advance, so we can give you guys a little bit of a sneak peek. But we got a lot of exciting stuff in the month of January, guys, again, we're kicking off 2024 very, very strong. So just a quick lineup, kind of shout out. If you're listening to this episode, you may have seen the post on Instagram international feature. We're going to be going over blue eyes samurai game room, where it happening happens. We're going to talk about ghosts of Tsushima, which I am actively playing and having a blast so far. We will also then be having the creator spotlight return and we are hoping to have the limit breakers on for that episode. And then, finally, we're getting some guests together for foresight 2024. We do this every January, where we take a look into the future and see what we predict is going to happen in the world of gaming, entertainment and beyond. So the film, with all that being said, this was a great episode Again, probably the most recent late to the party and memory that we've been like, both super excited to talk about. So let everybody know where they can find some of those other episodes where we had differing opinion and let us know where they could find us on social media.

Speaker 2:

Let's manifest 12 late to the parties, just like this, right? Let's hope that that's how it's going to go. I'm sure there won't be any missteps along the way or disagreements. Everything will go smoothly in 2024. But yeah, folks, whether it is your first time here or if you're a long time listener, just as a reminder, you can find everything you need in these show notes link, tree link We'll send you everywhere. Social media pages Instagram and Tik Tok are the two most important as well as our discord page. Those are the three best ways to speak to us directly. Let us know. You know maybe some content you'd like to see as far as late to the parties international features, game room, where it happens, all that kind of stuff Let us know. Over there, you can support the show a couple of different ways. One of the best ways to do so is sharing our content and tagging us, letting us know that you are out there. As I mentioned last month, in 2023, we learned we have even more international listeners than we have in the past and we want to hear from you guys, whether you're here or you're abroad. Let us know, because your support means the world to us. And yeah, like I mentioned, january is off to a fast start and we are about a month away from Brick City Anime Festivals you see on my co-host shirt right there and we hope to meet even more of you in 2024, because 2023 was a wild ride and can't wait to bring what's next for us. But if you feel like maybe supporting us even a little bit extra, eric will actually go over that with you and let you know how you can do so.

Speaker 1:

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