Creator Spotlight: Ryan Thompson (GAAM)

Have you ever wondered how community-driven events can transform a local scene? Join us as our long-time friend and collaborator, Ryan, takes center stage in our Creator Spotlight finale. Ryan's passion for fostering artistic growth and community ties shines through as we recount his journey from teaching night classes to spearheading initiatives like Jax Creators and GAAM. His efforts have not only supported local artists and gamers but have created a vibrant scene in Jacksonville, making him an integral part of our creative community. You'll learn how resilience, embracing failure, and community support can drive both personal and collective success.

Get ready for light-hearted banter and engaging discussions as we navigate the world of fandoms and content creation. From Marvel Unlimited to Dragon Ball Daima, and even the quirky challenges of balancing gaming interests, Ryan shares his insights with humor and enthusiasm. Our playful hypotheticals and humorous anecdotes capture the essence of finding joy in shared experiences, even amidst the hectic pace of content creation. We also explore the significance of community-driven events that support local vendors, illustrating their vital role for small businesses and artists.

As we wrap up this memorable episode, we reflect on Ryan's commitment to giving back and the profound impact he's had on our creative community. Through candid conversations on balancing ambition with responsibilities and the importance of collaboration and compassion, we emphasize the value of aligning with those who share your vision. With gratitude for Ryan's contributions, we encourage continued support for his initiatives, ensuring the vibrancy and growth of our community. This episode promises insights, laughter, and a heartfelt celebration of creativity, community, and resilience.

All of Ryan's Projects:

GAAM | Jax Creators | Holiday Nerd Market | Drink + Draw Jax | Secret Jax Nerd Market

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:00

Welcome to your go-to source for entertainment . Wait for it .

Speaker 2 0:05

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Speaker 1 0:08

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Speaker 2 0:31

This is the Wait For it Podcast . Hey everyone , welcome back to the Wait For it Podcast . I am your co-host , phil Barrera , aka Phil the Filipino , and joining me , as always , is your other co-host , mr Eric Almighty , and Eric . Here we are end of the month and one of our favorite times of the Filipino , and joining me , as always , is your other co-host , mr Eric Almighty , and Eric . Here we are end of the month and one of our favorite times of the month and actually our very last Creator Spotlight of the year , and we saved maybe the best for last as one , as a lot of people may say and agree with , once we get through this episode , but I'm proud of us , man . We made it through the entire year .

Speaker 2 1:03

We are going to take in November and December off from Creator Spotlight for those of you that do not know just so we can have , you know , any of our guests . We don't want to interrupt any family time during the holidays , so we wanted to bring in someone who we've been , that we've known for a long time , that we've been working with for quite some time as well , and I'm very excited to have this discussion here today , eric , and ultimately see how you've rigged these games against me this month , as you always tend to do . But regardless , it'll be a whole lot of fun hanging out with our friend and also talking to him about all the stuff that he does , as I meticulously add every single link that I possibly have to in the episode description , inevitably in this episode yes , yeah , this is going to probably be , uh again a one question longest episode it's the 14th .

Speaker 2 1:52

It's 16 days before this episode comes out . I'm actually going to start now , if you don't mind . So you've got .

Speaker 3 1:57

you've got a ton of time , but it's been long overdue for us to finally do this collab , because our guest has done so much for the local community and that's how we've really gotten involved , become friends and really gotten to not only collab on several things but bond over a lot of similar interests , which is literally the whole point of this episode of this series .

Speaker 3 2:21

So it's a nice way to cap off the year and the cool thing about this is this is going to fill your need for the creator spotlight for the holidays because , again , things that are happening locally , we've got a lot of stuff coming up with our guest and what he does , so super excited to be able to put a spotlight on that and have that linger before we get to the new year and we bring this series back Without further ado . Ryan , thank you so much for joining us . I am super excited to talk about GAM , jack's Creators , the holiday nerd market and beyond , to give our audience a preview . How are you doing and are you ready to jump into the longest episode we're going to have ever ?

Speaker 1 3:03

I'm ready , let's go . I'm super hyped to be here . I have so many improper jokes ready to go that I've been saving just for y'all . No , I'm kidding , but seriously . Thank y'all for having me .

Speaker 3 3:15

I'm looking forward to this Absolute pleasure , and I mean , obviously there's a lot that we are going to start off by asking you and we weren't kidding- we did give you the first question in the pre-show .

Speaker 1 3:28

I've not been to any of the P Diddy parties . No , no , that's not the first question no , well , let me let me delete that one from my list here .

Speaker 2 3:35

Hold on .

Speaker 3 3:37

Phil's going to have a great job editing today .

Speaker 2 3:39

Now now , what do I ask him ?

Speaker 1 3:42

I don't know . Thanks for having me , guys . I hope to see you at the next speed dating party .

Speaker 3 3:48

I mean , no , I have not been to those no , no , we don't believe you , but that's okay , ryan because , you have been to a lot of parties . In fact , you're usually hosting all of the parties . I wasn't kidding . What do you do ?

Speaker 1 4:02

Ryan , what exactly can you ? What do you do , ryan ? What do I do ?

Speaker 3 4:04

What exactly Can you summarize everything that you do , not only here locally , but just in general ?

Speaker 2 4:10

Not only . What do you do , ryan ? Question number two how dare you ?

Speaker 3 4:14

How dare you ? Is the other question .

Speaker 1 4:16

How dare I ?

Speaker 2 4:17

Yeah .

Speaker 3 4:17

I'd love to hear a summary just for our audience , who are getting to know you , or people that do know you and maybe don't know the full scope of what you do . Like what ? What is a summary of that sound like ?

Speaker 1 4:28

I think probably the . I mean I love just joking and saying nobody really knows . I say that a lot , but I , I think I'm just an artist and a teacher , really more than anything else . Um , that's why usually it's so complicated and people are like well , what is it that you really do ? Because you do like this gam thing . Is it gam or game or gum ? I don't know . And then they're like well , what about ? Then there's holiday nerd market . Then there's the nerd market , drink and draw . And oh , you started this other thing too . And I just like creating stuff and I like seeing people grow , I like seeing things , I like art and however it's going to be expressed , and , like I , I look at events like that . Every event tells a story and evokes a certain emotion and usually when you give people the opportunity to make something , it's exciting Every time I get to work with people .

Speaker 1 5:27

When we started doing GAM Show way , way back in the day , it was just supposed to be this cool art show that would have video games involved and kind of create a gaming culture for Jacksonville . We really didn't have it . Back then I was actually teaching . Back then I was teaching night classes and some of the kids , show them how to make , just like a version of Angry Birds . And I'll never forget this one kid made Angry Babies . He just had a baby and he's throwing his child across the room and I'm like , wow , I should really call CPS , but good job . I like what you did with the coding on this . And then they would ask afterwards like yo , mr mr ryan , like what do we do now ? Because they would make these cool little games where they were learning how to code . And I was like y'all bitches got to move because there's nothing here for you , there's no community here , there's no culture here , there are no jobs here . And um , I was doing a lot of game industry work at the time . Like I would go , I work my . At the time I had a day job at an ad agency doing websites and then I would teach at night and then every now and then I would take pto or I would fly , like on a weekend , to la .

Speaker 1 6:42

I'd work with the gaming company and then come back and I was like , well , you know , I think we can bring some of the gaming industry here to Jacksonville . I know enough artists where we can just like I really want to do an art show based on Street Fighter . So let's get some people together and let's just make some cool shit and see what happens . Maybe my mom will show up . She didn't show up , no , okay , she showed up . Love you mom . But I remember that first show . So many people just kind of showed up , people I never knew .

Speaker 1 7:11

And then it was something where , okay , and I was able to get gaming companies to be involved . I was like , hey , remember when we used to work on so-and-so , would you mind donating this thing to this little show in Jacksonville ? Like , oh , yeah , we'll do that . And then , as it grew , we were able to bring in more companies and , uh , kind of like give a foothold to other parts of the gaming culture in Jacksonville . Like that's where I started working with like Cliff with Leaderboard , who's been great , like Darby's Dungeon , like she was volunteering for like the longest time and she did so much .

Speaker 1 7:42

Um , everybody , we kind of just it was almost like a role-playing game . It was like we're walking down the path , like , hey , we want to go defeat this evil monster , we want to do it too . And then we just kind of got on the same page and see how we can help each other out , and that's kind of how it's been with everything . It's always just like , oh , kind of want to do this thing , this would be cool . I like the people around it and then we all just work together .

Speaker 1 8:04

As I've told many people who say , hey , when are you gonna do gam show again ? And I'm like it's kind of . Gam show is kind of like our in living color phase , like where you just had this amazing group of people , all super talented , and then they just kind of spin off and all do their own stuff . And that's kind of what's happened with jack's creators too . Like I already see the people that are working in there like , oh , wow , like this girl's really like alexa . Alexa's great with photography and working with like food and restaurants and she's starting to sping off and getting her own deals . Charlie's like now a studio manager , and like it happened . Anytime you give people the opportunity to shine and you really support them , like you give them that water and that light , they will flourish and they'll shine and they'll help other people . And uh , that's the long version . I just like doing that over and over again . Sometimes it's with a different kind of a little bit different culture , but it's always with something that I'm interested in .

Speaker 3 9:02

I think that's great yeah , no , no , uh , a great explanation . I think it's really great that , uh , instead of just going from like again , someone could really describe what you say as your help . You help people , but you do so much more than that . You kind of give them something to take away . You know , when you're , when you're teaching them right , and they can take that away and kind of use it . Phil , that's one of the biggest things that makes a lot of sense hearing that , because that's one of the biggest things that kind of drew us to Ryan in the first place .

Speaker 2 9:30

Yeah , definitely , I'll use an example , like you said . As you just said , I love that metaphor as far as , like , if you give them that light , if you give them that water , they will flourish . That we met somebody . I wish I had their Instagram up here in front of me , but had their Instagram up here in front of me .

Speaker 2 9:42

But she said she had never been to an event like this and she didn't know what she wanted to do . She maybe wanted to do acting or a podcast , or photography or something like that . And you know , she came to us and obviously didn't know who we were , but we and we were able to give her advice about hey , if you want to do a podcast , this is what , and I think also the podcast , eric . She wanted to do like a bunch of different things as far as uh , different topics , and we said here's what you should do , here's what we've experienced , and we were able to share that with her . And you know what , hopefully , next time , when we see her at the uh , at the next jack's creators meetup , she'll be like hey , I got my podcasting equipment or I picked my topic , you know what I mean ? Like that's something that we have been so fortunate to run into , not only with Jax Creators , but we talk about it with the JPU and then all these other organizations that we get to interact with . So , finding that community and this was also a theme when we talked to Rebecca right last month .

Speaker 2 10:37

Eric from Creative Veins you know where people are looking for that sense of community and sometimes you just have to put it , take it upon yourself to build it . Andrew from friendly neighborhood gamers , one of the podcasts we partner with all the time he asked hey , how did you guys find something like the GPU or like with Jax creators , like where , how did you do that ? And we're like these were already , you know , around when we needed those resources . So maybe you need to be the one that takes it upon yourself and do that . So for those of our listeners , ryan , that may be listening , maybe they're in other cities , you know . Maybe they're somewhere else , other communities that don't have something like this what is that first step ? Look like when you want to build something that we are so lucky to have here in Jacksonville . What can they do to maybe initiate that conversation ?

Speaker 1 11:29

The first step is probably letting go of fear . Like there's and I know , like back in the day you see me , I don't talk about it , be about it , but it's there's always fear about taking that first step . And really the first step is is fear itself . As corny as it sounds , because nobody knows where to start and there's never a clear , there's never like hey , you need to do this thing first . It's always like no , you just need to be okay with what you're gonna do is wrong and be ready to then adapt to it and then try again , and then adapt to it and try again .

Speaker 1 11:59

Like I tell people all the time we I remember before starting gam , I was looking and looking and looking for a gaming community here in jacksonville . I was like oh , is there someone else I can go ahead and work with , like , and it's like we just don't . The only thing we had was tiger and tiger was running . Uh , um , god , I can't remember what it was called now , but tiger is a legend here in jackson . He had kind of like they would do these fight nights at different bars with like fighting games and whatnot , and I remember meeting him and I told him what I wanted to do . He's like , okay , that's right , that's cool , that's cool . And then he told me later on it's like when I first met you , I didn't know if you were actually going to do any of the things that you said you were going to do , because I meet people all the time that always say something but they don't ever actually do anything about it . And Tiger was such a huge help , like a big part of GAM succeeding , because then he was able to give me his experiences and you know he was so caring , like whatever he could do , he would do it . So you have to get out of that fear . You just got to do something .

Speaker 1 13:09

My first kickstart I tried to kickstart gam before the first show . It was such a failure . Like I think I raised like maybe a hundred bucks and like my video was absolutely shit , like I should not . Why would I record a video at three in the morning ? I'm gonna talk so monotone . I hope you donate to this thing in jacksonville floor like it was bad . And again it's like , okay , it was bad , I gotta own that it was bad . Be open to criticism . How am I gonna try this again ? How am I gonna do it differently ? So just don't be afraid . Try anything , fail , do it again . That that's really the key to any of it .

Speaker 1 13:48

The jacks creators . A lot of people don't realize this isn't the first version of it . Like this is maybe the third or fourth . At one point , jacks creators was more so just for content creators , for live streaming , for game live streamers and , uh , just like live streaming . I thought I had another term in my head , but I do not but it was more gaming centric . It was like twitch , youtube and facebook live streaming and , okay , people showed up and I saw like a good connection with it . But I was like you know what ? I think this is not ready . Like this is connecting with a very specific group of people , almost to the point where it's boxing out the other people that I would like to be involved . I need to take another look at this and see how to make it more welcoming . And like it changed literally a couple of times before it got to the current version . Current version works .

Speaker 1 14:38

Previous versions did not drink and draw . We didn't start doing drink and draw this year or last year . Drink and draws . We've been and I used to go to different versions of drink and draw when I was younger , but our versions of it have evolved so much over the years . Um , we used to have cosplayers like show up and do modeling and all this other stuff . Like , okay , this part doesn't work , this part's too expensive , this part makes people feel like they're not happy , like I fail all the time . Most of my team loves telling me how much I fail Like Ryan , you know who sucks , look in the mirror , you'll find them . And I'm like why do you guys like making me cry so much ? And that's just fail . Be okay to fail 100% , that's absolutely .

Speaker 3 15:22

That was actually one of the questions I was going to ask you because I know you know you're really open on like social media . We see recently you're getting the holiday nerd market together . We're going to talk about just the the great thing that that market , the idea of that market , is I'm sure we're going to get to that .

Speaker 1 15:36

What's great for it .

Speaker 3 15:37

Let me tell you yeah , and I'm sure all the no , all the no's you get uh going to that point that you express so many .

Speaker 3 15:46

But like , how , what are some of the things that you tell yourself ? Or how do you really navigate that ? Because it's so , it's so easy to say you know , don't give up , right ? I think a lot of people hear that and they're like , well , it's not that easy . Well , you're . You're a perfect example of that , because you literally embody that with what I just said . Like , again , you , you get so much of the opportunities for that market and how , how that can happen , but it literally comes from a hundred no's to one yes ratio not everyone has the stomach for that .

Speaker 3 16:22

How ?

Speaker 1 16:22

do you ?

Speaker 3 16:23

build that kind of desire to outweigh all of the really negativity that can come from that type of mindset of the constant rejection , to finally get that . Yes . What's behind that ?

Speaker 1 16:35

Lots of alcohol , that's it , no , oh .

Speaker 3 16:40

God , I was there . Have a good night .

Speaker 1 16:43

Drink car vodka ? No , it's , that's a callback joke , but I was very fortunate . My mom was an entrepreneur , so I saw her fail and struggle so many times . There were so many times where we were just massively in debt and then you've got to crawl out of it . You feel like you don't have a choice . Crawl out of it like you feel like you don't have a choice , and I think the artistic side of me feels that way .

Speaker 1 17:10

Whenever you want to create something , you don't have a choice in terms of getting it out of you . It's either you express yourself , you get this thing , this thing in your basement out , or you then have to live with this . For me , I live with regret when I don't do things like that . I live with like man . If only I would have tried harder , if I would have done something different . So don't get me wrong at the beginning , heartbreaking .

Speaker 1 17:35

I remember when I was starting just to do design and I was trying to freelance and I would literally go through mint magazine and be like , okay , look at these different people , I know they're paying money for ads . I would go to their sites like , all right , this guy's site sucks , this guy's site sucks . Maybe I can get to do like a quick website form or something where they'll pay for it . No , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no . Like everybody just said no , and I might get like you're saying one out out of 100 says yes and then you feel happy over that just that one and then you have to make .

Speaker 1 18:09

For me , it's like okay , I got to make the most of this opportunity that I possibly can , because hopefully only 99 people will say no next time and hopefully only 98 people will say no and you have to realize you know those . It's never . That's the hardest part realizing it's not personal , because most people don't know you , so that , like , it's just that things aren't communicated or maybe things aren't properly aligned , and that's why there's a no . To just know that no is not you're a horrible person , that you're worthless , that you're less . It's just okay . This just isn't the right fit . You got to try again . Say yes , like as many times as you hear no . Whenever you get an opportunity , say yes and go for that opportunity .

Speaker 2 18:56

Yeah , and we can certainly speak to that as well , Eric . I mean very recently , like I won't I won't go into this specific example , but you know we were navigating an opportunity that was presented to us earlier in the year . That would have been huge , and you know what ? Maybe we went about it the incorrect way and we've learned from that and that might lead to actually a new opportunity in 2025 and beyond , you know . So , yeah , what Ryan is saying , like don't be afraid of failure , but also hold ownership over your no , so know what things to turn down and what things are not going to be good for your growth . I think that is also equally as important , because ownership over your no is one of the most valuable things that you can have . That's one of the anecdotes from Eric , from Leslie Odom Jr's book in from from Hamilton , of course , expired Inspire the Name of this podcast , right . So , yeah , I think that is definitely great advice . I'm interested to know , because Eric and I had this conversation on the way to Gainesville yesterday .

Speaker 2 19:57

We have too many fandoms , eric and I do the fact that we navigate the amount of fandoms that we do , because not only do we have all this stuff in terms of pop culture anime , marvel , dc , all this other , all these hundreds of tv shows that we keep up with we're also somehow sports fans , so we keep up with our sports teams and all that do you have too many fandoms ? Do you feel like you have ?

Speaker 3 20:19

you have no time to keep up with everything that you're a fan of because , you're a reader right , you're a comic book reader as well , aren't you ?

Speaker 2 20:25

yeah , like it used to be like that yeah all right .

Speaker 1 20:29

Well , before I get into that , I want to say props and kudos to y'all , and I know I've mentioned this to y'all like in passing before , but y'all are just so polished and I've seen the growth amongst the two of you in terms of like how , not just the podcast . I would say your actual identity is very established now and , like you can , people can quickly go to you and kind of get a feel for who you are and I think people know what they're getting out of it and and this is me being overly the God , the , the soulless business guy I , or may I should say entrepreneur , but it just looks so well put together where I'm like okay , these guys have a lot of success in their future and that bodes well for the rest of the people in the ecosystem , because when , when somebody like y'all can succeed , it kind of sets an expectation for the rest of the community around you . So I think when people like even I'll say like this when other brands that are sponsoring , whether it's like infinity con or collective con , and they see like , okay , these are the hosts of this thing , this event , and they were able to execute on such a high level with this , this , this , this and this . They're like man , I should have somebody like that when I do something that needs a host , or I need that kind of expertise when I put together a live stream for this and that , and I wonder what other people , people oh , there's got to be other guys like them in jacksonville over there from like who else can I talk to ? Like that is such a tremendous thing , because y'all are almost , I consider y'all and I don't like giving butter any kind of credit at all , so I'm going to give it all to blythe .

Speaker 1 22:20

Instead , I would say this first kind of graduating class at JPU is really resetting expectations of what Jacksonville can produce , and other people will notice that Other businesses will . So I wanted to give you props before we got to the actual quote because I was like I'm going to forget it . I already forgot what the hell you asked me because I was too busy kissing grass .

Speaker 2 22:43

No , if you want to talk more about us , actually you can screw the question . Yeah , what was the ?

Speaker 1 22:50

question again . Oh fandoms . I don't know .

Speaker 2 22:55

It's something about enjoying stuff yeah . Actually thanks guys so much for joining us .

Speaker 1 23:01

That's the cast I used to have like marvel unlimited , um . And it's like every time I here's , I would consume my fandoms anytime I was at the gym or taking a dump , like those are my times . It used to be where , okay , um , I'm gonna keep playing street fighter . Oh , hell , yeah , I'm the top 2000 of the world . Now , let's keep going . That time's done for me . Like , um , if I wasn't pursuing everything else , oh , I'd be .

Speaker 1 23:33

I saw dragon ball , daima or however you pronounce it came out the other day on netflix . I'm like , oh , hell , yeah . And I'm like , why haven't I watched this yet ? And I'm like , because too busy doing all this other stuff and I don't . I don't know how y'all do . I mean , I know y'all kind of have to , which is fantastic , but I just don't have the time anymore . I wish I did . I'm still playing dave the diver . I think I've got like 90 hours in on it . I'm like , oh , I got 15 minutes , let me try to catch some fish . P PS , I'm allergic to shellfish , but I love this game . I'm excited to see Ranma . I'm like , oh wait , ranma 1 has coming back . This is the one anime that I thought for sure cannot exist in these political times , but it's back . I can't wait to see how this goes .

Speaker 1 24:20

Invincible , like you mentioned before , even though eric hates it . Street fighter , it's a strong word and it's not , uh , he's not favoring it . He's not favoring it . I like that . Yeah , street fighter 6 . I love street fighter and I'm like oh , terry bogart's back , what's up ? We got maya myshira coming in . I'm not gonna play any of , but I can't wait to hear about it . How do y'all do it ? How do y'all keep up with so much ?

Speaker 3 24:52

That's a great question , Phil . He put a question on us .

Speaker 2 24:56

And sports .

Speaker 3 25:00

And the Jaguars , and I have a .

Speaker 2 25:02

Jaguars podcast too , and I'll tell you what they are pushing my passion this year to want to continue to do that show . As my co-host shout out to a friend of the show , and our buddy James Johnson knows we are struggling through this season . So you know , I don't really know , because when does ?

Speaker 1 25:19

your Jaguars podcast . Come on , it doesn't matter when it comes on .

Speaker 3 25:24

Yeah , that actually is true it doesn't matter when it comes on .

Speaker 1 25:25

Yeah , that actually is true , it doesn't actually because they're they are came in knowing you were going to do that at some point someone mentioned to me the other day because it was at some convention that I kept walking by and just knocking all the stuff off his table and uh , he was like , has ryan just gone into like his heel persona now is he like at final boss ryan ? I was like , oh , that's just gone into his heel persona now Is he like in Final Boss Ryan ? I was like , ooh , that's a good idea .

Speaker 3 25:48

Maybe I should go Final On top of sports like wrestling . So we're big wrestling fans too , so we actively keep up with that .

Speaker 2 25:57

Actually , we discussed who we were going to dress . As for the holiday market , you should actually change it to final boss uh with the , with the sleeveless uh vest and the cow hide I'll get a muscle suit to put on you should do like final boss moana , and like combine it with maui like a maui final boss hey guys , I don't know if you know this , but I'm part hawaiian .

Speaker 2 26:23

It's not like I ever mention it you have the hook , but you , but you're dressed as the , as the final boss persona I might actually do this now like I'm gonna go on amazon as soon as all those halloween sales are up .

Speaker 2 26:37

Please do you guys remember we're getting totally off track . Remember when moana the first moana came out and they released a body suit that had all the tattoos on it and everyone's like you can't do that , what's wrong ? I hope , I hope somebody's , somebody's kid got it before they took it off the shop and it was delivered and some some white kid named nick what does maui with all his tattoos on ?

Speaker 1 27:02

Halloween I hope that exists somewhere . You're welcome .

Speaker 2 27:06

To answer your question . We don't keep up with most of the fandom .

Speaker 1 27:10

Also , what I'll do is You're at the movies every other week .

Speaker 2 27:13

I know . Well , the thing is , I will get caught up . I just watched all the available episodes of Agatha , all along which I didn't necessarily have time for . But I know when I get caught up , like Eric will ask hey , did you catch up on this anime ? I'm like no , because when I get into it I'll watch like 10 in a row . So I have to be able to .

Speaker 2 27:33

I'm very cautious about dedicating that time , whereas I could , instead of watching 10 episodes of anime , I could catch up on a podcast and play college football 25 for three hours or something like that , or watch a YouTube video . What were the ? What was the YouTube video I watched the other day why you wouldn't survive in a supermax prison in Columbia ? I watched that one pretty recently .

Speaker 2 27:55

Yeah , it's a great page . I'll send it to you . I also going down a rabbit hole , what you would . What would happen if you fell off of a cruise ship ? I'm not going to be in that .

Speaker 1 28:02

I'm not going to be in that . I'm not going to be in that situation but oh , it's the infographic show youtube page .

Speaker 2 28:06

I don't know if you ever , you probably if you saw the artwork you would ? You would recognize them ? Uh , probably , but I'll go down those rabbit holes instead of yeah , I'll send it to you after this , but instead of catching up on an anime or a show or something else like that . So the answer for me is I don't keep up with everything . What about you , eric ?

Speaker 3 28:25

I constantly like it is scary for you , ryan , to like tell us how much we , you know , keep up with and to acknowledge that , but then to also say I don't feel like I keep up with enough , so there'll be like television like I'm just watching Game of Thrones for the first time- I'm getting into one piece yeah , so game of thrones and one piece are like two long-standing franchises in those genres that I'm finally jumping into .

Speaker 3 28:51

But in order to make time for that , I'm missing out on , like a movie from last year that's been in my queue , or like right now we're playing a game called days gone for this month's edition of the way for , uh , for the game where it happens , um , but I also just bought dragon ball sparking zero , which is the new fighting game that came out and I want to play it good oh , I want to play it so bad .

Speaker 3 29:12

I heard ape vegeta beats your ass in the first couple missions so I'm like not rushing to it until they either patch that or I find out if that's just the game no , but yeah I'm uh , I'm excited to play it , but that's on the back burner right now .

Speaker 3 29:29

Um , you know , there's a ton of stuff like that where I'll find , if I lose interest just a little bit , uh , a second season of a show that I wanted to watch . I have to decide between that or starting a new show you mentioned ranma . I've always wanted to check that out and it looks pretty good , but am I gonna have time to go check that out ?

Speaker 3 29:48

I I don't know honestly because I'm watching donded on phil that we saw the first three episodes in theaters , also on netflix crazy first episode . So if you do watch it , just be warned that's not the whole show but yeah , uh , it's , it's . It's kind of crazy , and I'm sure you get exposed to a ton of fandoms that you're learning about for the first time at your people expose themselves to me a lot no , see ryan , see ryan , I think it happened at the gym the other day .

Speaker 1 30:17

It was kind of weird no , not the gym ryan .

Speaker 3 30:19

Oh my gosh , that's disgusting .

Speaker 2 30:21

Which which gym , which gym just for bailey's .

Speaker 1 30:24

Wait now I'm not saying which one , because then more people show up . I'm not joking around .

Speaker 3 30:30

How much is the membership ?

Speaker 1 30:33

Not enough for this .

Speaker 2 30:35

It's not the kind of exposure I want , not enough for the therapy that goes along with it .

Speaker 1 30:38

No , Literally it's been in the locker room . I'm trying to change man , yeah , but I got this idea .

Speaker 2 30:48

I'm like well I have an idea about changing these clothes by myself . Oh yeah , the older the . The older they are , the less they care about what's happening well , no , these are young people like they'll just never .

Speaker 1 30:57

Yeah , I saw , you on instamagrams but uh , but like to what y'all are saying , and this kind of goes back to what you were asking earlier about how do you start something ? And I think right now content creation is so high . The amount of content that's floating out and using that as a catch-all term like videos , movies , comic books , tv shows , podcasts , everything gets created at such a high velocity now you can't keep up . It's it's simply impossible . Like remember when we would go to the movies and like , hey , maybe there'll be a sequel one day . Oh , five , eight years later , guess what ? They are gonna make another . Back to the future , that's cool . Like now , it's like well , is the sequel gonna come out this year ? Or like , okay , I saw it was in the movies last week , so it should be directed digital . Now , right , oh , by the way , there's already 30 explanation videos of youtube out before the movie even came out , let alone the like there's so much that you can't keep up .

Speaker 1 32:01

But anything you want to start doing , there's probably an audience or a community for it . Like you can say , hey , you know what ? I just really love some fucking french toast and cheese . I'm gonna , I'm gonna open up a shop just about french toast and cheese and I'm gonna start with just like a cart on the side of the road . You will probably find other people that like french toast and cheese and you can just like , do sprinkles on instagram , like look , I made sprinkles on this french toast today , and then like , on tuesdays terrific tuesdays we got extra cheese and people will show up for it , and it's the people that only have time for french toast and cheese . So like you could do this and don't start . That's my shit , shit now .

Speaker 1 32:43

Ryan .

Speaker 2 32:44

I was going to say are you telling us that you're going to start it . Oh my God , I thought I was the only person that liked French toast and cheese .

Speaker 1 32:52

I'm just saying I wanted to start a waffle truck .

Speaker 2 32:54

I don't know how we got from Game of Thrones to French toast and cheese , but that's okay .

Speaker 3 32:58

I think Ryan's going to start that . I think he was just telling us that's his new endeavor .

Speaker 1 33:02

Listen , I'm just saying , guys , there's a lot of reasons why . How is there already a ?

Speaker 2 33:05

Kickstarter for this . How did that happen ?

Speaker 1 33:08

And that's why I'm divorced boys I'm very difficult to live with .

Speaker 2 33:16

Hold on , there are cheesy French toast recipes .

Speaker 1 33:18

I just pulled it , yeah Well damn now we gotta do something else . A savory .

Speaker 2 33:23

French french toast recipe . I think we're gonna have to like try this maybe french toast is just bread so let's what's not like .

Speaker 1 33:30

That's a big , we're gonna do stuffed cheese inside of the french toast , so each bite the cheese comes that's just a grilled cheese , right hey , no , it's not just a grilled cheese , it is a french tolson cheese that's a grilled cheese sandwich , and you know it .

Speaker 2 33:46

Listen , repackaging , that's all it's about , yeah , rebrand . You know the grilled cheese is due for a rebrand , actually , right Now that I think about it . Oh my God , it's been long enough .

Speaker 1 33:55

I'm embracing the French culture . I'm not French at all , but Ryan Paul Thompson , it sounds French , sounds French . I've gone into interviews where people are so shocked when they see my skin tone .

Speaker 2 34:07

My government name is Philip Smith . You get it , you get it . I show up to an interview like , oh , that's not . Well , you can check that one off the box . They check Asian , alright , well , diversity higher it is . Do we have one of those ?

Speaker 1 34:27

Yeah , I'll bring them in . Sorry , eric , get us back on the rails .

Speaker 3 34:32

Man there's no way this is going to happen . There's no shot . We started the episode with Diddy .

Speaker 3 34:41

There's no way to turn it around again , I did not go to any of those parties you keep saying it feels like the more you say it it's less true well , I'm just sticking with that okay , well , I'm gonna make sure to put that at the beginning of every clip I did see phil there once , but I wasn't there phil , how would you handle a ditty party ? Actually , actually , ryan , that's my question for you , and then we'll give it to phil . Ryan , you find yourself at a ditty party . Uh , what's the first thing that you're doing ?

Speaker 1 35:10

looking for the door like that to the extra levels no , so there's a basement right and if you put in the key code and then no , I have .

Speaker 2 35:22

so it's weird this is kind of Please navigate this correctly .

Speaker 3 35:30

He had to be funny , let him get it . Let him get it out .

Speaker 1 35:34

So I typically find myself in a lot of unique or different situations and that kind of goes back to what we were saying earlier about like just hey , there's an opportunity , say yes , do it . You know , within reason . Unfortunately , I'm typically unreasonable . So when I used to do a lot of gaming work , I I would go to e3 a lot and , um , a lot of work in la and there were a lot of different after parties and things and whatnot to attend . I remember that was back in the time when , like there literally was a Saints Row party where everybody was like hitting each other with like dildos and stuff and it was just it was a different time and I remember , like wandering the streets , I came off the interstate and like I heard music and there was like a crack in the fence and gotten like some kind of rave and it's like oh , there's open bar everywhere and like those were like the common experiences .

Speaker 1 36:33

And then I was like you know what ? It'd be so cool if jacksonville had something like this . And that was kind of about one of the things that started gam show , where we would have so much random cool stuff happening in it . And this was some people hated it , some people loved it . Gamshow was purposely set up for people to miss stuff . So then , whatever things you did , experience truly was special to you . You would tell somebody about something that you encountered there and the other person would be like how did that happen ? There's no way I was there , I didn't see that . But then you felt like you had something special .

Speaker 1 37:16

And I remember we did the Ninja Turtles show and we didn't announce that we were going to do this at all . There was no lead up or hinting of it or anything . It was just like in the middle of the show , everybody's on the dance floor and this guy and this other dude like bump into each other and they're like what the hell , man ? You just think they're just gonna walk off and they start arguing a little bit more and one guy's in like a ninja turtle costume and one guy's in like a foot clan thing and they're just like what the hell ? Everyone's like yo , calm , chill down , chill out , chill out . And they just start getting more and more into it . And then all of a sudden the dj changes the music to go , ninja go , ninja go .

Speaker 1 37:59

And then the rest of the turtles showed up and they started going into the dance choreography . Then the rest of the turtles showed up and they started going into the dance choreography and the rest of foot clan showed up and they actually even did like the whole circle thing , like with tetsu and like doing the shell shock and everything . And then it was , it gone , it was over . And so the people , they were like what just ? It's like we were in the movie . Everybody else was like what are you talking about ? I went to that show . That didn't happen at all . But , um , that's how I would react with the diddy party . I'd be like are there any ninja turtles here ? What is the secret of the ooze ?

Speaker 2 38:30

oh , it's baby oil I'll tell you , this answer took so many twists and turns that was .

Speaker 3 38:35

That was one of the most impressive answers to what would you do at the diddy party phil . Who would you do phil ?

Speaker 1 38:41

at the diddy party . Phil , who would you do , Phil ? At the Diddy party ?

Speaker 3 38:43

Yeah , I don't think we could top that . Who would I do ?

Speaker 2 38:45

50 Cent . 50 Cent definitely . If 50 Cent were at the Diddy party , it would just be to hate on Diddy . He'd be like I hate your bitch ass . Remember I think he was on some late night show recently and they brought up the one time he was on some late night show recently and they brought up the the one time he commented on one of Diddy's photos where he was riding the bike yeah , the bicycle comment .

Speaker 2 39:10

He's smiling because you know there ain't no seat on that bike and like generational hating between Diddy and Floyd Mayweather like 50 cent oh , wow 50 cent Curtis Jackson . Wherever the line is blurred that man is a generational hater .

Speaker 1 39:25

I mean and did John .

Speaker 2 39:26

Rawls' career .

Speaker 1 39:30

So when he bought seats to the concert , just to box it out , I'm like , man , that's how I want , that's the type of . That's what I'm going to do with my money , oh wow , with my money .

Speaker 2 39:40

Oh wow , so many people have RSVP to this JPU event . I can't wait to see everyone .

Speaker 1 39:48

Oh , that is such a great .

Speaker 2 39:49

Oh , you're so excited . That's not a bad idea , it's just you sitting there at the Buzzsprout office , I've actually already seen this speaker . Can we do a ? Is there anyone else available ?

Speaker 1 40:03

Is anybody else here in the club ? No , okay .

Speaker 3 40:07

Don't plant that seed . I don't know how we transition to the questions we have left from this one . So , phil , back to Eric . No , back to Phil , phil , I'm going to lob this one up to you . Get us a question to get us back into the realm of where maybe we had questions left .

Speaker 2 40:25

Ryan quick question who do you think you are ?

Speaker 1 40:29

What gives ?

Speaker 3 40:30

you the right .

Speaker 1 40:34

Oh my God , I love you guys so much right now . I get this reference and I love it .

Speaker 2 40:40

Let's see how can we do this . Well , I mean , we were talking about fandoms earlier . What were we talking about ? We talked about the . Oh , we're trying to transition to the market . How did that start ?

Speaker 1 40:50

What's that ?

Speaker 2 40:50

What's going on ? How did we get from you know where it was in the beginning to then setting up a great opportunity for local vendors , for local artists , to you know , to come to something here that they can take advantage of ? Because , you know , we know so many artists , we know so many vendors and these type of shows , marketplaces , conventions it's the lifeblood of their entire well-being , right , they depend on these things so much . So how are you able to , you know , give that to the community , because it's something that you know monthly , obviously , with the annual one coming up with the holiday market , it's so great and we just like love being able to support it and also being able to go there just as a consumer as well .

Speaker 1 41:33

It's also a great time , yeah . So I really just wanted to figure out how can I take advantage of people as much as possible and I was like , let's do a market .

Speaker 2 41:49

How can I line these pockets ?

Speaker 1 41:50

baby Daddy needs a Porsche . I can't wait to be rich .

Speaker 2 41:53

Daddy needs a Cybertruck . I want one .

Speaker 1 41:56

Oh , whatever , every day of the week , look at these colors , no it . So GAM is cemented and it's the whole . That's the tagline Be original , do good , right and as much . And we're artists . We're artists first , always . We just want to create stuff . That's the kind of be original part . So with GAM's show , the focus was on the arts more than anything . It was always on what can we create and how can we create experiences .

Speaker 1 42:30

But , with that being said , I was very passionate about having vendors and small businesses be as small as part as possible of gam show . I hated the idea of like people coming in spending anywhere from 30 to like 100 bucks depending . Like some people want vip and they want all this drink . Like , oh , pay the money , there you go , um , but it's like if I pay 30 to come in , I don't then want to be like hit up by everybody and their sister about buying more stuff . That's why we used to have even have like three beer hours at gam show , because I was like I wanted people to have a good time and just connect with each other , enjoy the art . But I was like , well , what , we're not doing anything for the small businesses , we're not doing anything for , just like the , the next small artist .

Speaker 1 43:19

So eventually like , okay , maybe we should just do an event simply committed to the market portion . You know , typically , like with a convention , it's the vendor halls and the artist alleys . And at first the whole team was like , yeah , you know , we'll just do like the vendor , the vendor halls , and we'll make it like a little mini con . And I'm like , no , it can't . It can't be a mini con , because then the expectation is different . If you tell people it's a mini convention , people expect there still to be panels , they still expect X level of cosplay . Then the level of cost goes up because there's a certain level . People want to spend the whole day there .

Speaker 1 43:57

I was like we're not really poised to be , we can't handle any of that . We're all getting older and the team was getting older . How much time do we have and what can we pull off successfully ? And so it was like , okay , well , and then we were going to other things . Like I remember Market for Makers was a big inspiration for that . That comes through town . If you're a Ponte Vedra mom , you probably know about Market for Makers . And I was like , okay , this thing works like all these , like moms and whatnot show up and they spend money here and it's crazy . So maybe we should be modeling more off of that than a convention .

Speaker 1 44:38

So we started doing I was like , okay , let's do the holiday nerd market , let's do first . We just started , let's just do a market . Then we started looking at the dates and it's like , well , what makes the most sense ? Like everybody's , like , okay , these are the days you do it on . But I was like , well , we're here to help small businesses . So we started looking at small business Saturday and from a numbers perspective , it's like one of the busiest shopping days . Like , okay , we have a good day , we have an idea of what we want to do , let's try to pull something off .

Speaker 1 45:04

And the first one was small , like I think maybe we had 20 vendors or something like that at it , and aloft was a great business partner . So , and we used to charge tickets . Like , okay , let's make it affordable . Just 10 bucks , that's what market for makers was charging for theirs . And if you want to , you can get like a tote bag and like , sweet , we can help small businesses . And it was good .

Speaker 1 45:23

But then , like , as I got older and y'all probably heard the story , I don't know how many times . But , like me losing my mom , when , after I lost her , I just my direction was different . And even though the holiday nerd market was probably the most efficient event we could put together because , like again , it's comparing it to doing something artistically when you're putting together an art show , you're investing , however many hours it takes , because you want your art to to live and breathe the way that you envision it . So you're looking like six months to a year of just making stuff market you can put together relatively quickly . But it was like , you know , I don't I don't really give two shits about that anymore , like I don't want to sell tickets to anything . I don't even want to charge people stuff . I just want people to grow , I just want people to be able to express themselves or pursue the things they want to pursue .

Speaker 1 46:19

And that's when it all changed . We're like , oh , you know , let's . How can we do this for free ? Like how can we do this with where we don't sell tickets ? That's when my knees started hurting . I was like , how many , how many dicks do I need to suck for this thing to be free ? And I sucked a lot of dicks .

Speaker 1 46:36

But , um , you know , it became crowd supported and the community came through . It was one of those things where people said , no , those who have took care of those who didn't have , and y'all were part of that too . So thank you for letting me suck your dick , but it was . But seriously , the community came through . They felt the same way , you could tell . The people felt like , why do we need to pay for these things ? Like we can , we can take care of one another . We want to see these small businesses flourish , because when people who dream have that opportunity to grow , they help all the other people around them . Same thing y'all growing . You help . Every other podcast around you help to grow . So then it just kept on going where it was like , okay , this , this works . People will donate money to it every year .

Speaker 1 47:24

But then I got to the point where I was like , well , can we make it now to where the vendors don't pay for it ? And I was like , okay , we need to fundraise more money so the vendors don't have to pay . And so I sucked more dicks . And then other sponsors started coming in . It's like , man , this guy , he'll really cut the balls on it After taking those . I should have phrased that differently .

Speaker 1 47:48

We were able to get enough money to our vendors but then we refunded for it . It's like , okay , this is good , we're establishing something . This year will be the first year where there's not even the refund option and we're not doing crowdfunding . This is the first year where there's not even the refund option and we're not doing crowdfunding . This is the first year where GAM is finally a nonprofit . I'm waiting for the 501c3 stuff still .

Speaker 1 48:11

This is the first time where , okay , if you donate money to GAM , it will go to us doing more free events like Drink and Draw , the monthly nerd markets , the holiday nerd market , but we managed to get enough money from the actual sponsors . Um to where , okay , vendors not paying anything at all no deposit no , nothing . People who want to attend no , take . No payment for tickets no nothing . Still , buying all the goodies like to give away . We're creating like a little nerd village this year where we're making kind of like animal crossing style , where we're decorating houses and people will donate food and toys for people who need it , like it truly is something where people are just being the best versions of themselves and able to help one another . They care about one another .

Speaker 1 48:57

And then , as we're doing this , I get so many messages from the vendors like they now , instead of like obviously they still got to sell stuff , but they want to donate like they wanted . Like , okay , can I put this thing in a raffle , because I know you're helping these like special needs families . Hey , is there any way I can do to help somebody else ? Uh , can you take I've got this additional thing , can you like sell this for me ? And then even I remember , uh , fund them , hit me up . He was like I got all these clothes . If you want , you could sell them and donate the money to this cause and that cause . If you make it to where people can be the best versions of themselves , they will typically be the best versions of themselves . I don't know if I answered your question , but shit .

Speaker 1 49:38

I sucked dick a lot there .

Speaker 3 49:39

No , you recovered . No , Ryan , I was like we moved past the worst of it .

Speaker 1 49:46

Don't go back to it . Well , you need those clips for shorts , right ?

Speaker 3 49:50

Yeah , no , we're gonna have to . It's just gonna be all of those .

Speaker 1 49:55

For sure , diddy sucking dick . Everything , yeah , well , there goes the sponsors that I got this year Opus everything you know what to do .

Speaker 2 50:05

Opus Clips .

Speaker 1 50:06

And that's why I didn't mention the sponsors this time .

Speaker 3 50:09

There we go .

Speaker 1 50:10

Because they don't want to be mentioned like that .

Speaker 3 50:12

No .

Speaker 1 50:13

And y'all are part of that Like sincerely , like y'all have stepped in to help with this .

Speaker 1 50:19

This isn't the first year . Y'all were around last year and it wasn't like I had to convince y'all . Y'all were very willing to be like no , we want to do this . We like what this does for our community and that's how most people have been . They see that I fully get that Gam , or if you want to say Ryan or whatever the hell this entity is is in a unique situation where most other again I'll say , entities that want to do something like this , whether it's Drink and Draw or Jack's Creators it has to be very capitalistic , like there's got things have got to make money . That's just how the world works right .

Speaker 1 51:09

I'm fortunate that my day job . It gives me enough to where I have the time and also the funds to do a lot , and then I'm also . I'm even more fortunate that now , over the years , so many other people have stepped in to kind of relieve me of the weight of having to carry it on my own , and I think with that it erases a lot of the I don't know the right words inclinations or the motivations . I don't need to have other motivations . I don't need to have the motivation of like I've got to sell the most tickets possible , or I don't need to have the motivation of , yeah , we got to make X amount of money . The motivation is just is this going to work and help the people it's supposed to help ? Like , if I get for Holly Nerd Market , if people come in that are going to shop and they help support those businesses and people come in and donate things and it helps families and kids , it's a win . You know , there's no loss on the vendor side because they didn't have to pay anything . All they had to do was give up their time and supplies they already had .

Speaker 1 52:19

You know , for the artists and people want to create things , it's like , okay , I'm paying for the stuff you want to make . So again , it's your decision if you want to give up the time to help create these things so we can get food for Feeding Northeast Florida or help with , like , the Fostering Children Organization , like it's people . Just having to make a simple decision is this in my heart of something I want to do , versus having to worry about eh , why is this guy really doing this ? Like ? Is he trying to like , get this thing out of us ? Is he trying to do this or that ? What kind ? What game is he playing ? And , um , I hope that over time I can bestow that to other people . I think as other people get , they'll be in positions where they can make similar decisions to help others . You know , without it being a a some other kind of hidden agenda as to why they want to help people . It's like no , I just want to help people and I can , so I'm gonna do it .

Speaker 3 53:14

Yeah yeah , and you know it takes a special type of person to be able to do that like I can genuinely say what me and phil do , although we're very happy with our growth , like people talk about all the time , anybody can start a podcast like we do a lot more than just podcasting , which is where I think our niche is starting to turn into but , like anybody could start a podcast , no one can just not not many people can just start what you've started and then to do it in multiple different versions or iterations as well that we kind of talked about , like that's absolutely insane .

Speaker 3 53:47

I'm curious because you've talked about some of your wins , like having the holiday market this year be the way that it is , having that band of people that you can count on . What are like three of the top challenges that you face , kind of looking from your starting days to even today , like what are the three biggest obstacles that you either have overcome or you're still working to overcome that you want to highlight for someone who might be in your shoes one day .

Speaker 1 54:17

I think one of the biggest obstacles is balance . I told somebody once before and they were kind of like they wanted to do similar things , and I was like be careful , because ambition is a fuel that can burn you out very quickly and you know , I get extremely ambitious when I want to do something . I just I'm like unfortunately , I hold on too long sometimes , and knowing when to let go so you can have that balance is something that I wish . I wish was a lesson that I had learned earlier , because I lost so many years that I should have been spending time with my family . I should have been doing things that were more . I was excited about each kind of win , but looking back , I'm like that win cost too much . I shouldn't . To the outside it looked like it was great , the inside not so much . So definitely that Making sure you have good people around you , and not just from a talent perspective , not from a skill perspective , but people who are genuinely good in their hearts , and knowing when to break away , like sometimes .

Speaker 1 55:41

I know we've talked about this loosely you can work with people and your values and your goals can be aligned , but when they're no longer , as such , figure out how to exit . You know , don't worry about . You can be polite and you can be respectful and compassionate in breaking up with somebody . You know it's just like in real life when you're in a relationship like you know what . This doesn't really make sense anymore . As much as I'd like to make it work , this just doesn't work . Let's separate paths . If the world reconnects us , do that . So yeah , those things and being just more compassionate , like I know it sounds weird for me to say like , oh , this guy's talking about doing all these good things and heal the world and save the children and whatnot . But there's also been so many times where I've been so quick to like , yo , I grew up doing dirty dozens , man , I'm ready to snap . I'm like let's go and . But there are times now where I'm like man , I really should have been more patient with people . But there are times now where I'm like man , I really should have been more patient with people . I was even talking to my daughter about that today .

Speaker 1 56:48

We had a team meeting and there were some ideas that you know they weren't the greatest ideas in the world and some of the other people on the team , particularly my daughter , was like we're not doing that , why would they even bring that up ? And blah , blah , blah , blah , blah . And I get where she's coming from because she's right , and I probably would have reacted the same way . You know , oh my god , 15 or so years ago . And now I'm like no , and I was explaining to her if I don't let that person express themselves and I don't make them feel like they're heard , they'll never get to the point where they realize , when we say no or when they receive that criticism , that it's coming from a place truly of criticism , that they're not being personally attacked . And if they feel like they're being personally attacked , they're going to start hiding things from us . Like they'll , they'll doubt themselves and they'll be . They'll never be able to reach the potential they could have reached if we just would have been a little bit more patient and a little bit more understanding .

Speaker 1 57:53

Um , the people that we've had the opportunity to exhibit that kind of compassion with , especially on the team , like there've been times where people have come on the team and the rest of the team's like , oh , I don't know if I like them , I'm afraid of this . Like you could see the jealousy coming in or the fear of losing this . Is this the other one be careful with power like I forget which spider man it came from or what comic book . Power corrupts , absolute power corrupts absolutely , and so many people are not equipped to deal with power . And as you start to go forward in your projects , your passions , your missions , you get full of yourself real quick . And that's where it comes back to having the right people around you and being aware of that . It's like okay , this is gonna level set , you keep you in check .

Speaker 1 58:40

But yeah , other people on the team they fear losing that power too and you have to go . Hey , take the time to explain to them . This is why I know you all have your reservations about this person , but this is the here are the reasons why I'm going to disagree with you and still pull them on , and here's what we're about . This is where we are ethically and morally so , even though this person may not be the best fit , they may not be the best person in the world in terms of their skill or whatnot they're the reason why we're here is to help people like this . So I think those kind of things . If younger Ryan could have known those things , I feel like he would have been so much further along and have so much less regret . This is like old man talking at the tree time .

Speaker 3 59:26

I'm sorry y'all let me know , that's exactly the the question . You know , because , like I , I think about all the times that with the podcast um , you know we started back in 2018 , but I mean we wasted so many years just kind of fucking around , honestly . And then even like , as things started to turn , like to get to where we are now . It's hard not to look outward and be like this person's moving at such a rapid pace . Why am I not doing it , Is it ?

Speaker 1 59:55

me .

Speaker 3 59:56

Is it my circumstances ? But like everyone just has such a different journey . But like everyone just has such a different journey , it's just always so interesting to hear what obstacles you feel are in your way , because obviously the world is an obstacle itself . But absolutely your personal obstacles again , I was really interested in and it does lead to that reflection of like regrets and some of those darker conversations that , uh , you know we hold with ourselves sometimes yeah , well , you know again , can't ? It can't be all about sucking dick at ditty parties .

Speaker 1 1:00:26

I don't regret that at all , yeah .

Speaker 2 1:00:30

I understand I regret spending so much time with Eric . I understand .

Speaker 3 1:00:34

I get it Ouch .

Speaker 1 1:00:37

Well , no , even so , with y'all , two Like y'all have been working together a while and obviously there must have been times where there's friction or you fight or disagree or whatnot , and even in the best relationships . But it seems that y'all know how to get through those and that's very difficult , because that happens in any type of collaboration . It's a part of growth , it's a part of whatever you want to pursue . You do not accomplish it alone . No matter what you think you , you cannot accomplish it alone . There will be other people that will interact and intersect with you , and they may or may not open doors , and how you interact with them kind of decides that .

Speaker 1 1:01:17

And again , I see what y'all have accomplished and I'm like man they're really . They have a true sense of who they are Like , not just as like the overarching deal , but as each other , like y'all , get each other , and I think that's one of the things that makes people connect to y'all , because that's something that I think a lot of people yearn for and I think when they see y'all , they go . This is everything that the short box isn't Like , it's just they go . This is everything that the short box isn't Like .

Speaker 3 1:01:44

It's just Honestly . We've considered adopting that as a slogan of sorts . So I really appreciate that , Because , yeah , we should be running the JPU , right , Phil ? I mean , that's what's next .

Speaker 2 1:01:57

Now that Botter's left us in the dust , I'm not putting any of that work in that Botter and Blythe do , absolutely not .

Speaker 3 1:02:05

No , we said Ryan's able to do stuff because he's Ryan but the JPU , anybody could do that .

Speaker 1 1:02:11

I am one of the original co-founders of the JPU . We could go to .

Speaker 2 1:02:16

Denver and talk at Pod Exist and do all that . Yeah , that's definitely .

Speaker 1 1:02:21

Just to make it official . That joke is just to piss off Potter and Blythe . I don't want that misconstrued .

Speaker 3 1:02:27

They are not going to listen to this episode , they're going to be living their best life .

Speaker 1 1:02:31

But I'll send them the clip .

Speaker 2 1:02:33

Yeah , make sure you crop that part up .

Speaker 3 1:02:34

Actually , without the explanation , it's like the fourth time I think we've shit on Potter this episode we it's like the fourth time .

Speaker 1 1:02:41

I think we've shit on Potter , this episode .

Speaker 3 1:02:42

We can do way more than that It'll be great , Ryan , because we typically mention this at the end , but we like to have guests back on for a monthly episode and we haven't had Potter on for that episode .

Speaker 2 1:02:53

Oh , that would be so great we have once .

Speaker 3 1:02:55

So when he comes back on , we need to have him on with you , because I feel like that episode would be unhinged .

Speaker 1 1:02:59

Let's go four ways . Let him on with you , because I feel like that episode would be unhinged go four ways .

Speaker 3 1:03:03

Let's do it . Make it a ditty party for real . That's right .

Speaker 1 1:03:06

So that's uh phil . I'm sorry , phil what other ?

Speaker 3 1:03:08

what other questions do you have ? Uh , I know we've talked a lot about the market , but maybe , on like a pop culture side as well , maybe a couple questions we can explore before we've got some game time to get to yeah , um , I guess , uh what , bringing it back around to , uh , to pop culture .

Speaker 2 1:03:25

Let me see what can we uh , what can we try and make sure this doesn't get back to diddy that's all you just want to make sure that we , we avoid that . But , um , no , I guess , uh , I have , I'm gonna , I'm gonna get your opinion on this because you are a comic book reader . Um , as well , as you know , we've talked about manga , we've talked about , obviously , our love for video games .

Speaker 2 1:03:56

I have this opinion where I'm a little bit on a high horse when it comes to all these live action adaptations we're getting , specifically when it comes to video games , now granted the last of us show excellent . The fallout show turned out great um we're getting god of war in the future , which I'm like a little iffy on .

Speaker 1 1:04:14

So I've always been on that too yeah .

Speaker 2 1:04:16

So I've always been on the team of if you are not going to experience that story in the medium it was originated in , you don't get to experience it .

Speaker 2 1:04:26

So and I think that goes both ways , because if I'm not going to read a book , yeah if I'm not going to read a book , then I don't get to fully experience all the things , that , all the subtle nuances that happened in that book and in that series and in that story . Where do you fall on that ? Because even though some of these video game adaptations are turning out great .

Speaker 2 1:04:47

There's so much stuff left out between , like a relationship that is so , so in depth , like a joel and an ellie , that you just cannot explore in six episodes of a television show . I mean , how do you feel about that ?

Speaker 1 1:05:00

first off . I say , how do you feel about your first off ? I say , how do you feel about your podcast listeners that don't listen to you on audio ?

Speaker 2 1:05:08

that don't well .

Speaker 1 1:05:08

No one watches the youtube videos so I can tell that well one I'll say this a lot of the adaptations , they give me trepidation as well , and anything where if , like , sony's gonna produce it , I'm like that's probably gonna suck unless it's animated live action adaptations from sony , like I'm . So I haven't watched last of us , but I've heard nothing but great things about it . I want to watch it , but and again , I'm surprised I'm like , oh wow , sony did something live , that's good yeah , okay , love it .

Speaker 1 1:05:50

Um , I'm like , I'm surprised sony doesn't morbid time everything . But I think there there are reasons why we have like different universes and different retellings of stories all the time . I used to be more of your camp of , okay , there is something so intrinsic to actually playing a game and the feelings and emotions that come with it . Like it is different to actually go through and feel like you are the character and then you're , oh my god , like what just happened to , like spoiler joel's daughter , like I remember that moment , like it was powerful . Same thing when , like the dogs break through the windows in resident evil , like oh shit , who let these dogs in ? God you know . But , um , I think there's . Also you can't limit it to one medium , because one can be the gateway for like other things can be expressed like the same way , how sometimes there's a movie and then you get a great game out of it , like it's different feelings , it's different , as long as , I think is , they stay true to what the core of the medium is supposed to be . I think that's where the problem typically arises , because sometimes it's not true to what the actual kind of core of the story is , at the heart of whatever the original property is . And that's when you're like , yeah , you know what this sucks , this is not what people should . And you get angry at that point because like no , this thing is great and somebody else is fucking this up and now all these other people are gonna think that this thing sucks . When this changed my life and you need to know why it changed my life .

Speaker 1 1:07:25

Um , like even most of resident evil movies , I am not a fan . I know people like them , but I'm like . So , like , listen , who is this character ? Like jill valentine is supposed to be the lead . You got mia joy of it . Oh , because she's married to the director , so she's in every movie . Okay , I get it . And for me , I'm like I don't really like these movies . But for the people who do like it , I'm like , okay , I get it , you get something out of this that is different . And I've got to let go of my my old man almost like , hey , I'm in school and like my band's blowing up and now I'm pissed because other people are listening to the music and it's not the same as the first album . It's like , all right , you know , you just gotta kind of let it go . I think we all . I think we all just wanted to honor what it originally is . I think , at the end of the day , it's really and to play my own devil's advocate yeah the last of a show .

Speaker 2 1:08:18

My daughter loves it so much she now is playing the game so that wouldn't have happened . I wouldn't have just been like hey , you want to play this really traumatic video game she would have been like no , absolutely not , I don't want any part of that .

Speaker 2 1:08:30

so , again , I definitely see both sides of it and I also to to kind of add on to my feelings is I've expressed this before in the podcast eric , to guests as well I feel like video games are the best storytelling medium because of what you talked about . It puts you in the shoes of that character . I think maybe the only thing that comes close to it would be a book , would be a novel , would be something like that , but when you get to make those choices creatively within a game , that's why I feel like , in terms of when it comes to mediums , gaming is probably right up there alongside long-form storytelling , as far as like a book or a novel .

Speaker 1 1:09:09

But some of us can't read . That's true , that's true .

Speaker 2 1:09:11

Eric can't read . I can't read .

Speaker 1 1:09:14

I didn't know what that link said at all that you sent me . I was like , what is this ?

Speaker 3 1:09:18

You think I typed that email up , not me .

Speaker 1 1:09:20

That was actually so well put together . When I actually read it I was like oh wow , these are great tips .

Speaker 3 1:09:27

This is great . I stole most of that from Riverside .

Speaker 1 1:09:30

So don't give me too much credit .

Speaker 2 1:09:31

I just like to reformat stuff . It's all AI , yeah , all AI .

Speaker 1 1:09:37

Kind of like to what you're saying , though , phil . There are certain experiences that you just can't replicate , and I think that's where we got to kind of have an acceptance . That's going to be different . I don't see somebody if they ever adapt Bioshock being able to experience Would you so ?

Speaker 1 1:09:54

Like the whole , it'll probably be a plot twist like a Shyamalan film , but it's different from actually you being in disbelief because you just devoted the past 20 hours thinking this thing , you were doing this thing , and like , oh wait , I was , I was the character and I was deceived , and it's very much like a book . When you watch it it's a little bit you can . Still it's not accomplished the same . And then it's kind of sad because , like , as these mediums change most , this is me putting on old man hat . The new generation and then the next few generations won't experience gaming the way that we experienced it , like they'll experience by youtube clips or clips on whatever format , and just like here's the segment of the game that you should care about , here's the emotion that you should feel , and then it's a mirroring of the emotion that you're being told to feel versus actually experience . It's such a weird thing Like I see kids doing it all the time and I'm like you don't have to be talking about kids , ryan , you're speaking to Eric right now .

Speaker 1 1:10:58

Just so you know .

Speaker 2 1:11:02

Like you right now , just so you know right , like you just watched the video on youtube .

Speaker 3 1:11:05

Now right , do it on tiktok , yeah , tiktok but then reactions of , like other people reacting how that impacts you . That's like a real conversation I know phil is watch is watching , like his , his , uh terrarium videos on youtube while I'm over here , watching reaction videos , but that is my thing for sure . I think , personally , bioshock's a great example , because I think they are developing a movie and that's just such a bad decision . Yeah , again , because of that twist , the twist that Bioshock is known for you have to sit in that world for a while .

Speaker 1 1:11:38

We're like on the flip side .

Speaker 3 1:11:39

The reason the Halo television show television show , I think failed was because that is such an epic movie waiting to be made there's not enough in that world to really make that episodic and I think it's just again to your point . That's why I disagree with this take is because I think it can work in the right mediums for people that aren't going to sit down and play yeah 100 hours of a video game , or even 50 or less hours of a video game versus binging like a television show or going to the movie theater .

Speaker 3 1:12:13

So I think it gives audiences different choices , but every audience member has such a different variety of taste that it's like yeah even if the studio gets it right , that's still possibly a miss bioshock should go the sorry to cut you off , ryan , but no , go go bioshock needs to go the fallout route and make an original story within the bioshock universe .

Speaker 2 1:12:34

They that's what they need to do , because you could do so much that it's unexplored . I mean , remember when bioshock infinite came on , you're like , oh , there's a whole nother like portion of this story that we didn't even know about . So that that's oh , there's clouds yeah , we're in the sky .

Speaker 3 1:12:49

What is this ? I was ready for infinite to not be good , and it was and it had the same type of twist and they brought it back to rapture . Like you can do all of those things in that type of medium .

Speaker 1 1:13:02

It can happen , it's just most of the time it just doesn't work out that way it seems like we're taking a turn in the right direction , but history has told us that it's not going to usually go well I used to have a very similar stance with um as weird as it sounds with fighting games , and I love fighting games Absolutely and I'll devote hours and hours and hours to it At least I used to and I would argue that what makes fighting games so popular , at least during that time , you know , during the late 90s ? Hold on , my dog wants to get rid of my deposit again .

Speaker 1 1:13:40

Don't do that that is not , that's not going to work . He's like don't you talk ill about Street Fighter , but it's not the combo systems , it's not like whether the game is balanced , it's the character design and this kind of like subconscious storytelling that happens . Like you see these characters , you identify as them and you start creating your own story . Before there were actual stories , you would create your own stories to them and I would argue no , that's why Street Fighter was so popular . All these different countries and people were represented . Everybody could find somebody that like oh yeah , I'm from thailand or I'm from japan , or I know friends from so and so and , and then you're like , oh , I could be like this guy , strongest woman in the world . Finally , someone who speaks like to me , like there are all these different things and the designs were just so interesting and compelling , and yet the music like again , it's kind of world building , kind of the same way , how , like almost bioshock was probably going to have to work out , and it's the same thing .

Speaker 1 1:14:46

Everyone loves Marvel vs Capcom too , you know , but how many people actually play it to try to do infinite combos and stuff like that ? Two of the best selling fighting games Smash Bros , mortal Kombat , both known to not have the best esports scene and competitive scene , but it's that so many people get so engrossed with the characters and the world . Like who doesn't like nintendo's characters ? Like when you put robocop and john cena in the games like , oh dang , I want to go check this out and so you know . Again it comes back to like what story can you tell ? Can you connect with somebody ? And when you take those things to different mediums , like even though I freaking hated that Street Fighter cartoon , you know so many people watch that crap . You know . Same thing , mortal Kombat movies , like the new Mortal Kombat movie , I still argue with people like nah , I wish that was a good movie . I'm like who the hell is this new character , whatever ? But again , it's world building and it's connecting with people .

Speaker 1 1:15:48

Is it true to the game ? Hardly , but it gives people something from the game's experience . It kind of connects with the core parts , like , okay , these cool characters , people you can identify . But then , yeah , every now and then you get one of those like once in a lifetime games . Same thing with a great movie or a great book . They're so seldom to find one at that level where it's like that's going to give you a would you kindly ? That's going to give you psychomantis controlling a second controller , like there's such unique experiences that you can't find in the other medium and you simply have to tell those people . Like you know what , I know , you love it , but you're missing out and I get that . You're never gonna get it , like that's okay .

Speaker 2 1:16:31

That's just where our paths are gonna diverge you know another great example of that as well , when you talk about world building . And this is again . This is a game that I I have very seldom played . I played a little bit of the sequel for a little bit , but I got very into the lore of overwatch for the first game those characters were so interesting and learning about what they were doing together and what they were fighting about .

Speaker 2 1:16:55

And then in the second game they got rid of all that . They got rid of all the lore , and then they focused just on the gameplay . And then you know the , the battle pass and all that crap , and now you know look where overwatch is now .

Speaker 1 1:17:06

So I only started getting pulled back into it when they started releasing . I was like oh dang , they got Transformers in this now .

Speaker 2 1:17:12

I was like what .

Speaker 1 1:17:14

My .

Speaker 2 1:17:15

Hero Academia is in this . Yeah , I was going to say you can go in and play the game again and you can get the my Hero skin to go in your Deku pajamas .

Speaker 3 1:17:21

Those things are fucking hideous . Yeah , they're not good . They're not good , they're not . So I think , who is it ?

Speaker 2 1:17:26

it's there's an all my one , there's a deku one , and what's the last one ? Is it raka ? It's not good they're all done , they're all bad other thing , but you're right .

Speaker 1 1:17:35

Yeah , it's pixar style clips that they used to have with overwatch super high .

Speaker 2 1:17:39

Everybody adored it super interesting I'll go back and watch them now just for the hell of it . Sometimes when I get a little bored , I'm like man , they really had something here and they messed it up . And Eric , one more thing maybe before we go into our games here . I wanted to do this with you guys . Let's cast Andrew Ryan . Who do you guys think would be a good on-screen , andrew Ryan ? I have a list of names here . The first one is Ralph Fiennes .

Speaker 1 1:18:04

What do ?

Speaker 2 1:18:04

you think about Ralph Fiennes ? Pretty cunning Too . What do you think about Ralph Fiennes ? Pretty cunning , too predictable , yeah , yeah I feel like that's an obvious one .

Speaker 3 1:18:11

He's always the bad guy .

Speaker 1 1:18:14

Gary Oldman , that's a pretty good one , yeah it's not bad .

Speaker 3 1:18:17

When is he ?

Speaker 1 1:18:18

bad . Yeah , the Rock should be .

Speaker 2 1:18:23

Dwayne Johnson . Yes , Mads Mikkelsen .

Speaker 1 1:18:27

Put him in anything . Yeah , put him in anything . Yeah , it's well , give us like a pick that where it's like I don't know .

Speaker 2 1:18:39

Mark Strong wouldn't lose .

Speaker 3 1:18:41

Mark Strong's interesting . I think he's got too strong of a voice you think so ? You would know him if you saw him .

Speaker 2 1:18:48

He's bald too strong of a voice you think ?

Speaker 3 1:18:50

so you would know him if you saw him . Mark Strong yeah , he's bald , he's like a bald , very strong voice actor . Yeah .

Speaker 2 1:18:55

Kingsman . Who else is on this list ? Liam Neeson Liam Neeson is dope .

Speaker 3 1:19:03

Nah , I don't know about that one , daniel Craig Bryan .

Speaker 1 1:19:09

Cranston . That's kind of interesting . I think Bryan Cranston should have been cast as Doctor Doom .

Speaker 2 1:19:16

That would have been fantastic . Anything would have been better than what they did Fantastic .

Speaker 1 1:19:19

Than what they did yeah .

Speaker 2 1:19:21

Wouldn't have been hard , hugh Lowry .

Speaker 1 1:19:24

Oh House , that's actually . I'd watch that .

Speaker 2 1:19:32

I'd watch that . And then the last name I'll throw out here uh , joaquin phoenix .

Speaker 3 1:19:36

Maybe he needs a little bit of a pick me up .

Speaker 2 1:19:37

He'll back out of it , yeah , he doesn't want to do it , so yeah , that's it .

Speaker 3 1:19:42

That's an interesting . Those are some good picks , though . Yeah , those are interesting bad names .

Speaker 2 1:19:46

There's some other ones on here , but yeah , those are the ones .

Speaker 1 1:19:49

I want to talk about which one's your favorite .

Speaker 2 1:19:51

Well , just because he gets typecasted as the bad guy all the time , giancarlo Esposito is on here . I just wish they would just cast him as a happy-go-lucky character for once , he's so good at being fun and lighthearted , but Hollywood has forgotten that also . Christian bale is on here as well . Uh , just as a nerd , I think he would go all in on it , you know as far as him being a gamer , I think that might be a good pick .

Speaker 3 1:20:19

So , yeah , now that makes sense . But , um , I know we have a couple of games that , uh , we got two games I've got prepared . Uh , phil , there is a game focused on my sharing .

Speaker 2 1:20:27

Yeah , so I forgot about that part .

Speaker 3 1:20:30

Do you remember how to do it where it fully ?

Speaker 1 1:20:32

shares . Yes , do you remember ?

Speaker 3 1:20:33

Okay , so while you're doing that , I will prepare our audience , and there are two games that we're going to play . The first game is called Game Game , because I couldn't come up with anything more clever than that , and we'll go over that in a minute . The other one , uh , we've played before , uh , which is guess that movie , uh . So both of them have a nice variety of games within themselves and , uh , yeah , I think it'll be a lot of fun . I tried to cater this game for both of you , but I also threw in some randomness in here just to , kind of see , I figured , add to the chaos .

Speaker 3 1:21:09

It worked out honestly in the end , but I think it'll be a good time , so we'll do Game Game first , which is a series of games within a game , talking about games with people who like games , and that's how I came up with the name Game Game . So , phil , whenever you're ready .

Speaker 2 1:21:28

Maybe I don't remember , I thought I did .

Speaker 1 1:21:31

I kind of want to buy this .

Speaker 3 1:21:33

Is it ?

Speaker 1 1:21:33

available on your Patreon .

Speaker 3 1:21:36

I never thought of doing it that way . People should subscribe to your Patreon for more things .

Speaker 1 1:21:41

They should Batman , Sonic , Galaga .

Speaker 3 1:21:44

Unfortunately , we take a lot of them from other shows that we're famous of Like your Friendly . Neighborhood Gamers Shout out to y'all .

Speaker 2 1:21:50

Shout out to Friendly Neighborhood Gamers . Steal stuff from them . All the time . Okay , I don't know how to get rid of it .

Speaker 3 1:21:56

Oh , there you go , ha ha . All right , got it . So this is Game Game Through our Riverside as well . If you need to maximize the game and minimize the people , you can do that , ryan , if you will maximize for you if you need to .

Speaker 1 1:22:14

Oh , I can actually play this .

Speaker 3 1:22:16

No , you're going to play with me . You have a controller on your screen . You have a controller ready , right I ?

Speaker 1 1:22:21

can't wait to play with Mr Eric Almighty .

Speaker 3 1:22:24

Alright , let's move to the next slide , Phil .

Speaker 1 1:22:28

Don't tell Phil what to do .

Speaker 3 1:22:31

And how are you going to play the Games About Games . Well , the first set of questions will be answering that question , Very simple . The second game will be multiple choice and then the third will be complete the word . So , with that being said , Phil Ryan are you ready ?

Speaker 1 1:22:48

I'm ready , let's go .

Speaker 3 1:22:51

All right . So we're going to start off and , honestly , this first one , you can just shout out the answer if you know it what Nintendo game is the highest rated game on Metacritic , with a 99 Metascore ?

Speaker 2 1:23:06

Mario 64 .

Speaker 1 1:23:10

Why isn't it ?

Speaker 3 1:23:11

Zelda , okay . Mario 64 Legend of Zelda okay , so .

Speaker 1 1:23:12

Phil .

Speaker 3 1:23:14

Phil , you said Mario 64 . Ryan , can you also name a specific Zelda game ?

Speaker 2 1:23:19

oh shit .

Speaker 1 1:23:23

Link . Oh man , people are going to say Ocarina of Time . I'll say Link to the Past .

Speaker 3 1:23:30

Alright , phil , neither of you got it . It is Ocarina of Time 22 critical reviews which I thought was interesting . This is the highest rated game on Metacritic I found out . The second one was Soul Calibur on the Dreamcast .

Speaker 1 1:23:48

Thought that was an interesting intro to the Dreamcast . Yeah , which Soul Calibur on the Dreamcast Nope , thought that was an interesting intro to the Dreamcast .

Speaker 2 1:23:53

Yeah , which Soul Calibur the first one .

Speaker 3 1:23:55

I believe so Huh .

Speaker 1 1:23:57

All right .

Speaker 3 1:23:57

Next question .

Speaker 2 1:23:59

Who did GameCube get for their Soul Calibur ? It was Link . Right , they got Link .

Speaker 1 1:24:03

Yeah , who were they it ?

Speaker 2 1:24:04

was .

Speaker 1 1:24:05

Yeah , spawn and Kratos or something like that .

Speaker 2 1:24:11

Yeah , that sounds right .

Speaker 3 1:24:12

Next question . Our next question again shouted . If you know it , what is the name of the organization that began developing biological weaponry for militaries across the world as a part of a worldwide conspiracy ?

Speaker 2 1:24:23

to accumulate .

Speaker 3 1:24:25

Can you give me the full name , the ?

Speaker 2 1:24:27

Umbrella Corporation .

Speaker 3 1:24:28

Yes , the answer is Wait . Can you give me the full name , the Umbrella Corporation ? Yes , you said Gail .

Speaker 2 1:24:33

You're not supposed to reveal the actual thing that you guys do . Wait , are we ?

Speaker 1 1:24:38

supposed to be taking turns , or are we just supposed to yell ?

Speaker 2 1:24:40

No , just yell it out . No , you said just yell .

Speaker 1 1:24:41

Okay , sweet , I like yelling .

Speaker 3 1:24:43

All right , and then , phil , our last question on this first round . What is the name of the popular first-person shooter based off a movie from 1995 where up to four players compete in several deathmatch scenarios via split screen ?

Speaker 2 1:24:58

GoldenEye .

Speaker 3 1:25:00

It is GoldenEye 007 .

Speaker 1 1:25:05

My game is so overrated .

Speaker 2 1:25:06

So Phil's got two points , it's got some of the worst controls of a game , of a shooter , that's ever come out , and I'm sure that was because of the you know the Nintendo 64 limitations , but going back and playing it now is almost impossible so alright , this next one is going to be multiple choice .

Speaker 3 1:25:25

If you know the answer , I mean you can lock it in but if you do shout out the answer , the other person can't give the same answer . So which of these games did not receive a 10 out ?

Speaker 1 1:25:35

of 10 . Score ign from ign uncharted 3 .

Speaker 2 1:25:39

It's like , oh god gta 5 skyrim or mario also they're like 8.3 out of 10 era I will tell you .

Speaker 1 1:25:46

three out of four of these games did get 10 out of 10 , Aaron , I will tell you three out of four of these games did get 10 out of 10 .

Speaker 3 1:25:52

So only one of these did not . Which one are you locking your answer in for ?

Speaker 1 1:25:55

did not , that's ridiculous .

Speaker 2 1:25:57

I want to lock in . I'm going to go with A . Okay , so I can't select A right , correct , okay , I will select B then .

Speaker 1 1:26:06

Alright Phil the answer is actually Skyrim .

Speaker 3 1:26:15

What Skyrim got a 9.5 , to my surprise and frustration Alright .

Speaker 1 1:26:23

Let's go ahead and jump into the next one .

Speaker 3 1:26:25

I know which franchise is the best selling fighting game of all time .

Speaker 1 1:26:31

It's either Mortal Kombat or Super Smash Dragon Ball Tekken .

Speaker 2 1:26:39

Best-selling franchise Dragon Ball is like one of these things is not like the others out of these four , which means it could surprise us .

Speaker 1 1:26:49

Talking about units sold or money .

Speaker 3 1:26:52

Money , money for all of their games under that franchise . I will tell you these are the top four .

Speaker 1 1:27:02

Mortal Kombat .

Speaker 3 1:27:04

I'll lock in .

Speaker 1 1:27:05

Is that a smash Take ?

Speaker 2 1:27:06

smash Phil .

Speaker 1 1:27:07

Counterpick . All right , I'll , or smash Take , smash Phil .

Speaker 2 1:27:08

Counterpick . All right , I'll take smash .

Speaker 3 1:27:12

All right , phil , the answer is Mortal Kombat . So , ryan , with a point , we'll say two points for the round , two . Sure , yeah , there we go , ryan's got two points , we're tied .

Speaker 1 1:27:25

All right , mortal Kombat making that money .

Speaker 3 1:27:26

Yeah , all right . Last question in this round which of these franchises has the most games call of ?

Speaker 1 1:27:35

duty final fantasy castlevania megaman I should wear my megaman hat .

Speaker 2 1:27:39

I had it and everything oh , man , because you got to think of , like the there's like a PlayStation Vita Call of Duty and a PlayStation . Whatever that other , oh , the PSP version .

Speaker 1 1:27:54

Do all the spin-offs count ?

Speaker 3 1:27:57

Final .

Speaker 1 1:27:57

Fantasy Tactics and all that kind of stuff .

Speaker 3 1:27:59

I believe so .

Speaker 2 1:28:01

Yeah , you got the last one right . Ryan , you can lock in first .

Speaker 1 1:28:14

I'm gonna , let's see see what year is it 2024 .

Speaker 3 1:28:16

I'm gonna go with call of duty , I'm gonna go final fantasy .

Speaker 1 1:28:19

Okay , phil , the answer here is actually megaman yes , because it's always megaman , but you didn't even vote for mega man ryan , come on I'm curious to know what this is defined as most games yeah , they listed mega man with over 100 and all that kinds of stuff , and the soccer , yeah , okay , yeah yeah , they said over 100 mega man games .

Speaker 3 1:28:45

The next closest one on this list was Final Fantasy with 75 plus 75? . God , that's crazy so yeah , alright , we're doing great guys .

Speaker 1 1:28:55

I love you , Mega man .

Speaker 3 1:28:56

The final round of this game is complete . The word it is going to be video game based . Shout out the answer if you know it . If you don't , I will allow a hint hint , which will come up upon the next click anyway I don't get like more .

Speaker 2 1:29:13

You didn't do like slides where you give more letters listen man .

Speaker 1 1:29:19

He is doing his best , all right two .

Speaker 3 1:29:21

You can see it's two words and I gave you two of the eight letters here . It's is a video game , hola , phil , if you would like to click for the hint , oh , click , let's get a hint in there . Yep .

Speaker 1 1:29:41

Rhythm .

Speaker 2 1:29:43

It's not Pratt for the rapper , it's not just dance Rock band Damn it , phil , it is .

Speaker 1 1:29:47

Rock band Very good . How many times do I have to click Just ?

Speaker 2 1:29:49

once . Just once Okay .

Speaker 3 1:29:53

Alright , it is Rock Band . So good , you'll click again to reveal our next Complete the Word and , if we need it , we've got a hint that we can reveal .

Speaker 1 1:30:05

The Rapists what ?

Speaker 3 1:30:08

No , no , ryan , where did ?

Speaker 1 1:30:11

you get that we established . I couldn't read earlier no .

Speaker 2 1:30:14

I understand , but where did you get that ? What game is that ? Also what games are you playing when ?

Speaker 3 1:30:21

are you ordering that from ?

Speaker 1 1:30:22

Colonel Mustard Reese's Pieces .

Speaker 3 1:30:26

All right , phil , if you'd like to click once , for the hint Seems like we . This is the one we're struggling with oh , something is Something . The hint is fight .

Speaker 1 1:30:37

That's three words . Right , that is a space to the eyes .

Speaker 3 1:30:41

That is three words .

Speaker 2 1:30:42

Okay , I was looking at this wrong .

Speaker 1 1:30:45

Fight God . I feel so inadequate right now . Fight I don't know .

Speaker 2 1:30:52

It could be like a Dragon Ball game that I have no idea . I don't know any of the names of those games .

Speaker 3 1:30:56

I will say this game has come up on this episode . Of course it did Um .

Speaker 2 1:31:06

I got nothing , as is Twisted metal black Ryan are you ?

Speaker 3 1:31:13

even looking at the letters .

Speaker 1 1:31:15

Are you even ?

Speaker 3 1:31:15

trying . I told you I can't read . Why do you have to make me listen so ?

Speaker 2 1:31:18

much .

Speaker 1 1:31:19

Ryan , it is three words .

Speaker 3 1:31:21

The second word is not is because the hint is fight Ryan . This question is a toss-up to you for three points .

Speaker 1 1:31:30

Oh my God , it's got to be some kind of Street Fighter reference . Oh God .

Speaker 3 1:31:36

Are you both throwing in the towel ?

Speaker 1 1:31:39

I wish I just had another letter . Give us another clue .

Speaker 3 1:31:43

It is something versus something , oh , marvel versus Captain America .

Speaker 1 1:31:47

Jesus Christ , that point .

Speaker 3 1:31:48

Marvel versus Captain America .

Speaker 1 1:31:49

Jesus Christ , dude that point was worth three , but I'm only gonna give you one . I'm only gonna give you one .

Speaker 3 1:31:59

Yeah , that's what I was thinking too Is it last us us ?

Speaker 1 1:32:04

That's so crazy .

Speaker 2 1:32:06

Well .

Speaker 3 1:32:07

Ryan's in the lead with one point .

Speaker 2 1:32:10

What do you mean ? What about my points from the last few rounds ?

Speaker 3 1:32:14

did you get any right ? Yes , what are you talking about ?

Speaker 1 1:32:18

we'll just say it's tied then , so for the win alright , for the win .

Speaker 3 1:32:25

What the hell is this ? It is one word nagger for the win .

Speaker 1 1:32:29

What the hell is this ? It is one word Nagger .

Speaker 3 1:32:36

No .

Speaker 2 1:32:36

Should I put the South Park clue ?

Speaker 3 1:32:38

You gotta . Oh , oh , daggers .

Speaker 2 1:32:41

Of course , um . We got nothing here , okay , I can tell .

Speaker 3 1:32:48

This isn't the game for you guys . I learned back . Receive phil . Reveal the hint explore uncharted very good job .

Speaker 2 1:33:01

Awesome , awesome job , guys phil won that one , but ryan did great I don't feel good about it , but I did .

Speaker 1 1:33:09

I thought it was Oregon Trail .

Speaker 3 1:33:11

I was quickly wrong . I just don't understand . Oh wait . So if you want to switch over to Guess that Movie . This will be really interesting . The game's going to work the same way . You're just going to shout out the answer if you know it , and it'll work in a similar fashion . So this game will have three different breakdowns of how it is played , and that'll be our last game for this episode guess the movie . So , on our next slide is this how y'all do your live trivia stuff . Yeah , when we go to the conventions .

Speaker 1 1:33:48

Yeah , this is awesome so on our next slide is this how y'all do your live trivia stuff .

Speaker 3 1:33:49

Yeah when we go to the conventions .

Speaker 1 1:33:51

Yeah , this is awesome shout out to .

Speaker 2 1:33:54

Canva man . Canva Pro is the best investment we've ever made .

Speaker 3 1:34:00

Phil , if you want to go to the next slide is that Paul Rubin in the background ? I don't know round one is going to be guessing a film using only an image from a movie . Uh , round two , you'll see the question and choose the right movie through multiple choice answers . And round three , you'll guess each film using only a small clip , visual only , from the movie . So let's jump into it . This is going to be probably the most diverse one . I don't know how this is going to go short circuit no , are you ready right ?

Speaker 2 1:34:32

yeah , yeah , I'll always ask I guess yeah , that's fine all right , let's jump into round one .

Speaker 1 1:34:40

Can you make the netflix sound first ?

Speaker 3 1:34:44

there we go now , I'm into this . Alright , let's start round one .

Speaker 1 1:34:49

Time to watch Seinfeld again .

Speaker 3 1:34:52

What movie is this scene from ?

Speaker 1 1:34:54

Goonies .

Speaker 3 1:34:56

The answer is Goonies Very good , I was joking .

Speaker 1 1:35:02

But I'm glad it worked out .

Speaker 3 1:35:04

I literally did that for you ?

Speaker 1 1:35:05

Did you reverse the ?

Speaker 3 1:35:06

image .

Speaker 1 1:35:06

I did One-eyed Willie .

Speaker 3 1:35:10

Yeah , if I need to make it harder , where I can . I'll typically reverse the image . If I need to the next film , what movie is this scene ?

Speaker 1 1:35:19

from George .

Speaker 3 1:35:20

Turkin .

Speaker 1 1:35:23

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles .

Speaker 2 1:35:24

I don't know which one Teenage ?

Speaker 3 1:35:26

Mutant Ninja Turtles . Yes , I will take that it is the 1990 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles . Yes , I will take that it is the 1990 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles . Is this the ?

Speaker 2 1:35:32

2023 one . The animated one .

Speaker 3 1:35:34

You know it's not .

Speaker 1 1:35:36

Yeah .

Speaker 3 1:35:37

All right , and the final movie of round one .

Speaker 1 1:35:42

Oh my God , Of course . Transformers the movie .

Speaker 2 1:35:45

It is Transformers .

Speaker 1 1:35:46

Oh , it's just called Transformers .

Speaker 2 1:35:47

The movie , the movie yeah .

Speaker 3 1:35:48

Transformers 1 .

Speaker 1 1:35:52

No , I knew you were going to say that .

Speaker 3 1:35:53

And yeah , this was from the 1986 Transformers .

Speaker 1 1:35:56

I still cried during this movie .

Speaker 2 1:35:59

I haven't seen any of those three movies .

Speaker 3 1:36:02

Yeah , no , phil , this might be the one that was rigged . Yeah , three points for Ryan .

Speaker 1 1:36:09

We're now going . Points for Ryan how old are y'all , I'm not that old All of those movies .

Speaker 3 1:36:18

Yeah , all of those movies came out before I was born .

Speaker 1 1:36:21

Yeah , I feel like I had an unfair advantage there .

Speaker 3 1:36:23

That's okay . That's okay . Round two the points are doubled . I think you think you did the game . I forgot the points last game . So that's true . All right , shout out the answer . If you know it to lock in that answer , it'll be just like the last one yep so ryan's got it ? Which of these video game movies star jake gyllenhaal ? The answer is c .

Speaker 1 1:36:48

I don't have a life in your face , Phil I knew that you just locked it in first .

Speaker 3 1:36:54

All right , our next question which of these video game movie sequels has the highest Rotten Tomatoes score ? B ? Okay , phil's locking in B .

Speaker 1 1:37:07

Yeah , I'm going with the same . Well , you can't because he locked it in Listen no one tells me how to live my life , eric , okay , I'll go with D , you'll go with D , all right ?

Speaker 2 1:37:19

The answer actually is oh shit , Fucking Angry Birds . God , those movies are terrible .

Speaker 1 1:37:28

Next will be a Fortnite movie what is it ? Actually no , it won't .

Speaker 3 1:37:32

These movies , I believe , are also ranked in the order of their ratings . So Pokemon , the movie the lowest scoring one out of these four .

Speaker 2 1:37:39

What ? Sonic the Hedgehog 2 is good , but you can argue that Pokemon 2000 is the best one on here .

Speaker 3 1:37:45

I know , I know . Third question so Ryan .

Speaker 2 1:37:49

Lugia was just like .

Speaker 3 1:37:51

I'm gonna fuck up all these birds . Ryan's still very much in the lead .

Speaker 2 1:37:56

You don't have to say very much .

Speaker 3 1:37:58

What is the highest cost ?

Speaker 2 1:37:59

of .

Speaker 3 1:38:00

Bill series franchises based on video games .

Speaker 1 1:38:03

Pokemon .

Speaker 3 1:38:05

Oh , I don't know . Are you locking it in or taking it ?

Speaker 1 1:38:09

back . Yeah , I'm locking it okay based on video games .

Speaker 3 1:38:14

Oh yeah , mario all right , let's click and reveal the answer . Ryan , you're adding to your total . Pokemon is the highest grossest film series franchises based on video games that's not wait .

Speaker 2 1:38:28

I okay , I misunderstood this question . What is the highest grossing film series franchise based on video games ?

Speaker 3 1:38:36

oh , yeah , so collectively . Collectively , it has spent a long time watching kids doing stuff okay , okay , okay , okay , okay .

Speaker 2 1:38:42

Well , let's not say that , let's do that what if you'd like to ?

Speaker 3 1:38:45

clarify that's okay , Ryan . You're in the lead with like seven points , I believe .

Speaker 2 1:38:50

I don't understand this problem . Phil Round three .

Speaker 3 1:38:55

Round three is next and a ten second clip will play . So , Phil .

Speaker 2 1:39:02

Can we answer it anytime still ?

Speaker 3 1:39:03

At any time you shout it out . These are worth three points apiece .

Speaker 1 1:39:06

I don't think I'm going to last ten seconds here , Eric . What movie is this scene from ? Oh my god , I don't fucking know what this is .

Speaker 3 1:39:13

This is fucking horseshit .

Speaker 2 1:39:16

This movie is horrible .

Speaker 3 1:39:17

That is crazy to get it that fast , Phil . The answer is the terrible Dragon Ball Evolution live-action Dragon Ball movie . Ryan , how did you get that so fast ? I ?

Speaker 1 1:39:32

don't know A lot of sad days . I was single for a long time , eric . Let me tell you Alright .

Speaker 3 1:39:38

Well , ryan is in the lead with 11 points . Yeah , let's just dominate here . So , phil , the next movie , whatever . What is this movie scene from ?

Speaker 1 1:39:54

I thought it was that too at first . I'm like , is it Troy ?

Speaker 2 1:39:57

Yeah , Is it Gladiator ?

Speaker 3 1:40:01

Phil , the answer is Gladiator .

Speaker 1 1:40:04

Yes , there you go . Look at that .

Speaker 2 1:40:06

Yeah , I was looking for Brad Pitt dragging the guy behind the cherry .

Speaker 3 1:40:11

Yeah , I tried really hard not to put Russell Crowe in here at all .

Speaker 1 1:40:14

This is .

Speaker 3 1:40:15

Gladiators .

Speaker 2 1:40:17

Alright , well , no shutout . This one's worth nine .

Speaker 1 1:40:22

Go .

Speaker 3 1:40:24

Honestly . I'll tell you this , phil If you get this next one , I'll let you tie it . I don't have a tiebreaker , but I'll tell you this Phil .

Speaker 1 1:40:29

If you get this next one , I'll let you tie it . I'll let you tie it . I don't have a tiebreaker , but I'll let you tie it All right .

Speaker 3 1:40:34

So let's show the next one . This is the hardest one of the three .

Speaker 1 1:40:39

Oh , that's Conan .

Speaker 3 1:40:42

No way there's no shot in 30 seconds .

Speaker 1 1:40:46

You got it . What the fuck is this ?

Speaker 3 1:40:48

Phil you got started .

Speaker 2 1:40:49

What the fuck is this ?

Speaker 1 1:40:50

Phil reveal the answer . What the fuck this is ? You should have known that one Phil , that guy's Asian .

Speaker 2 1:40:57

Why would I know this ?

Speaker 1 1:40:58

I don't know , I can't see his eyes .

Speaker 2 1:41:00

How am I supposed to know he's Asian ?

Speaker 1 1:41:02

You should see his soul .

Speaker 3 1:41:03

Ryan , I really felt like I did cater that to you , but I didn't know how well a two-leaf you felt like it catered to him . I was like I have a feeling that I might have , but to get Conan in two seconds is crazy .

Speaker 1 1:41:21

I grew up in the 80s with a lot of time on my hands .

Speaker 3 1:41:24

Wow , oh , that was unfortunate .

Speaker 1 1:41:30

Yep . Now y'all know what sadness looks like .

Speaker 2 1:41:33

I don't think I've seen any of those movies except for Gladiator .

Speaker 3 1:41:36

No , I know , and you almost didn't get Gladiator , you almost said Troy .

Speaker 1 1:41:41

It was rigged , Phil .

Speaker 3 1:41:42

It's always rigged .

Speaker 1 1:41:43

He sent me the answers before . To be fair , that first game really worked for you . Phil me the answers before .

Speaker 3 1:41:51

To be fair , that first game really wouldn't have had to film that . Yeah , that doesn't help the uh , that doesn't help the um . The evidence against me that these games are rigged , ryan . That , uh concludes our very fun episode here . A couple games to wrap it up , but we definitely want to let our audience know everything you've got going on . This is the maybe next 10 minutes . You've got to run down through all your social media , all the events that are coming up , everything you want to plug that we are going to have in the show notes . This is your chance to say that all out loud . So me and phil are going to go , um , get some dinner or something , and we'll be back in a little bit . So if you just want to let us know what , you got .

Speaker 3 1:42:28

Yeah , I mean , just let us know what you got going on . We'll be here all night .

Speaker 1 1:42:33

I'm going to focus only on two things . Jack's Creators that's every third Wednesday of the month . Usually it jumps around between Aloft or Sandbar or whatever random place . I only mentioned that one , for I think your audience If anybody's in Jacksonville and has some monocum of creativity and you're trying to figure out how to get it out of you whether you want to make a podcast , a live stream , want to write a book , do photography , draw it's a great environment for you . There's other people just looking to create stuff there too . Nice , short and sweet . Just at jack's creators , on everything there's a dinosaur on it . I like the dinosaur from beach boulevard , simple as that . There's no deeper meaning . And I like sunglasses , so I put sunglasses on that bitch . That's simple . Um , and obviously the holiday nerd market . You can find this at Holiday Nerd Market . That'll be at the end of November .

Speaker 1 1:43:32

It's small business weekend , so right after Thanksgiving If you're in Jacksonville and you just want to check out other nerdy stuff , it's fun , it's free , you can get through it in about like an hour , hour and a half . Most people just go through . They check out some cool stuff . They get some food , because there's different food vendors there . Grab a drink or two , if you have kids like they , let them draw um , and it's very much a feel-good moment . If you feel like it , you can bring like a can of food or bring a toy for like a special needs kid . Uh , we'll have all the information up at holiday nerd marketcom or you can find us at instagram at holiday nerd market . Um tickets are gonna go up . They're still tickets , but they're free . They'll probably go out next week again .

Speaker 1 1:44:20

I just expect , if you're in jacksonville and you're looking for something to do that weekend , I just check it out . It won't cost you anything . You'll have a good time . Worst things worst . You're like , uh , I don't know with a bunch of nerds . Well , at least I didn't pay for that thing . I left in 30 minutes . You know that's . Look at that . That's how you know I'm the best salesperson ever . Let me tell you about how you might make fun of my event and the people at it . That's how you get people to show up .

Speaker 2 1:44:46

Boys , I hope you've learned something today looking for a group of people to bully , yeah check out GAM .

Speaker 1 1:44:57

You got two days of bullying to get in at the A-Loft because I don't know if I should pronounce it A-Loft or A-Loft , I'll use both . Come on down , park someplace , get some food , buy some stuff . Seriously , it'll be fun . It'll be a fun experience . We're working on some really cool different things this year . I'm trying to finalize some stuff so people can kind of do scavenger hunts as they look for pokemon like around the place . Uh , the nerd village , I think , is really good .

Speaker 1 1:45:26

I think the nerd village is going to become our community's deck the chairs . I don't know if any of y'all are familiar with that , but this year we're doing an Animal Crossing house , a Pokemon house , a Minecraft house and then a bunch of the sponsors Y'all can have one too . Actually , they're kind of customizing their own house and then we're putting those throughout the atrium . Unless it rains , then we're going to go somewhere else , but we're literally making a village , stringing the lights , putting the fake snow down , and then attendees show up and they put food or they put toys into these houses to kind of fill the houses . Then we take it to the people that need it , get chances to win prizes and it's kind of a . I think symbolically it really shows us becoming a village .

Speaker 1 1:46:15

Um , I think next year , the year after , I'm hoping we're already talking to some people about maybe having it last longer so the actual houses themselves can be up for maybe a couple weeks so people can just walk . Kind of the same thing with Deck the Chairs . I think Deck the Chairs is great in representing Jacksonville and the beach community . We need something that represents the nerd and pop culture community . So that'll probably be the last thing I do and then I'll die Because I'm so old now . Can I talk about that for the next few minutes Like my mortality ?

Speaker 3 1:46:50

You cannot . We did learn about that . Yeah , just like vast difference , yeah .

Speaker 2 1:46:57

And if you come to the village as opposed to deck the chairs , you don't have to deal with surfer runoff , so there won't be anybody from surfer there , hopefully .

Speaker 1 1:47:06

That's exactly why we're angling . Angling this . It's like do you not want to get into a drunken fight at 1 30 am ? Come on down to the nerd market , get a little bit of bullying and get some food and then do some good . Don't know how this guy's still in charge of stuff , but somehow he has been for the last decade or so . Cancel him already . I've been canceled quite a few times . It's exciting , it's good stuff , it's fun . This episode will probably be another notch we couldn't imagine .

Speaker 1 1:47:36

How I don't know like I legit quick story , because do I have three minutes left ? I don't know . I've been watching the clock but . I remember one time we were having a gam show and people literally protested and wrote to the venue and this is back . I wasn't online as much then complaining that the guy who runs the gam show is one of the leaders of the klu klux klan and uh I remember .

Speaker 1 1:48:06

I remember the venue being like hey , is this like one of your people playing a joke or something ? And I'm like that's nobody from my team . But I can assure you I know we've met on several occasions and I have not been using fake spray tan . I am not the leader of any form of the Klu Klux Klan and , yeah , I haven't been cancelled for that yet , but I'm sure it's eventually gonna happen . Kkk does not like me , let me tell ya . We do not get along . None of us do 2024, .

Speaker 2 1:48:39

Things might have changed .

Speaker 1 1:48:39

No pure blood here , yeah , and it's also Wanna end on that clip .

Speaker 3 1:48:45

I was gonna say end of episode .

Speaker 2 1:48:47

We'll also continue to punish surfer for taking free bird away . So also another reason to come down to a loft , or a loft as opposed to uh deck the chairs but poor , sweet free bird the memories so that's a great wonderful place .

Speaker 1 1:49:05

But no , thank you , guys for giving me this opportunity and platform and for doing it for so many others too , because I know y'all open your . I think doing this spotlight is great . It helps a lot of people out and it takes a lot of your time . I don't think people understand . Like just , it's so weird . As you're going through the game just in the back of my head , I'm going through oh , my god , they put so much time to the research of this and then they put the game . Now there's a click through . Oh , and they made the hint . I'm thinking all the time that you put into that and y'all still have day jobs .

Speaker 2 1:49:39

This is not like hey , you may just go do conventions and do a podcast it's like nah dog .

Speaker 3 1:49:46

We totally get it To be able to do everything that you do as well with , with all of all of the things that come with it , like , trust me , we're envious of you , so that that envy goes right back as far as , just like man , we don't know how you do it and , uh , we're already people like y'all make it possible .

Speaker 3 1:50:02

Yeah , yeah , yeah and people at home can be in that conversation as well . I did want to mention , you know , all of these free events that you guys put on . I was reading on the holiday market site . You're going to put up nearly at least 30 , like around 30 .

Speaker 1 1:50:20

At least 30 this year . My girlfriend is so close to breaking up with me .

Speaker 2 1:50:24

So I don't .

Speaker 3 1:50:25

Yeah .

Speaker 1 1:50:28

It's a lot and it's it's a lot and , um , it's funny , someone else that I really look up to , asked one of the team members the other day . Uh , I don't know , I guess I'll go ahead and name drop him now . So , like barrick , uh , barrick versetti , um , very accomplished designer and illustrator here in town . He's one of the guys that started one spark and actually years ago he was one of the people who critiqued my portfolio when I was going through school . Like at unf swoop , you can't finish kids . But uh , he had said something to one of the team members like how does ryan do all of this ? Like I don't understand . It's like he's always like with all these events and then like they're posting and then they're creating this thing and that thing , and and she gave the most amazing answer that really warmed my heart she was like no , like we all , just we love ryan , so we all help him . And I was like that meant a lot to me , like , not meant a lot to me , him having that thought and that kind of like praise , but also that someone from the team felt that way , because that's how I feel about all of them and that's why I hate being , I joke around and pretend being like the bad guy you know and like , even like in school . They call me like the dream crusher , you know . But then , like sasha knows , like she's like , you're the softest person , I know , like you cave every single time , like somebody has like the slightest story and , uh , the team , anybody I work with , I try to make sure I can give something back to them , and it's a difficult concept to understand because I know there are people that I've mentioned like , oh , you know , I know you want to do this thing .

Speaker 1 1:52:15

I'm like I would like to , but I'm not the right person for you right now , like I , cause I don't have , I don't have the time to give you a good , because when I work with you , I want to work with you , I want to help mentor you or I want to help open doors , I want to give you everything that you need that I could possibly give you , and if I can't do that , I feel like I'm not honoring my half that I should be doing .

Speaker 1 1:52:40

And usually people are like no , no , it's fine , I still , I just want to do this . I'm like , yeah , but I have to be able to balance this out , just for my personal soul and well-being . It's a little bit selfish in a way , but the fact that so many of the team feels that way , that they do it because they care and they're not looking for anything other than they want to help the community , they want to help other people . They've been the ones who've been the person that needs help and now they want to do it for somebody else , and that person happens to be me a lot .

Speaker 1 1:53:14

so I'm very grateful and lucky um if you don't stop me now , I'm gonna say something we're grateful .

Speaker 3 1:53:18

We're grateful and lucky to have you , to have your , just just to be able to talk about it and I can speak for eric here .

Speaker 2 1:53:24

I know when I can say that there was a . There was a point in time where we didn't necessarily really know what gam was . We knew it , that gam had existed , and we knew that you threw these events and there was a time and place where eric and I looked in from the outside and said , man , it'd be really cool to be a part of that . So the fact that what an asshole , weird man .

Speaker 3 1:53:42

Look , that's the guy that's in charge that that guy definitely looks like he's in the KKK that guy definitely runs a clan for him . Is this where we tell him that we were the ones that filed the complaint , that made that . Best prank ever .

Speaker 2 1:54:00

Play in the long game Play in the long game , jason , you're so , so but no , but to now get to be a part of it and I know you're not going to get , you're not going to like being lumped in with botter , but being able to when people that yeah , of course so , but when people like you guys , like botter , like yourself , like blithe , when they come to us and they ask us for assistance , they ask us for help .

Speaker 2 1:54:23

You know it's . It's truly the biggest compliment that eric and I can get . Um , because we know that people like you put in this work for the community and do it for the correct reasons , because we discussed this , you know , off the air , there are people out there with nefarious intentions that are only about their bottom line , that are only about lining their pocket , and that has not been an instance with yourself and so many other people that are part of this wonderful community . So kudos to you . It is our pleasure to highlight what you have been able to do and you know , honestly , truly fitting , eric , that we were able to cap off 2024 with Ryan . It worked out perfectly .

Speaker 2 1:54:56

Yeah no , 100% .

Speaker 3 1:54:58

And Ryan , thank you so much for joining us on this episode . Tying that all back in again . Ryan hosts so many amazing events that you can support the community with , but we need your support to have that happen and to have those events go on . So , again , all of the links will be in the show notes for everything you can do , whether it's attending these events , donating to these events , whatever you can do again is truly appreciated . I know we appreciate it when people support the podcast tenfold for everything going on with gam jack's creators , the holiday nerd market and beyond ryan .

Speaker 1 1:55:33

Anything else you want to call out before we close the episode god , my brain is wracked with so many improper things to say nope , but see , I gave you , I should , I should have just I should have just said have a nice , nice night , ryan .

Speaker 2 1:55:47

We're going to close the episode why you threw it back to him . That's your fault . That was a mistake .

Speaker 3 1:55:53

I don't know . I don't know .

Speaker 1 1:55:55

I thought you learned something today , but no , in seriousness , thank you all again . I look forward to seeing what you guys do in the future , because I truly believe that you can almost see like lines and dots coming off y'all where you're like , okay , other people are going to be impacted by this . There's other people who are going to be listening to this , like , oh , you know what , you know , maybe I could do a podcast or you know , they talked about this one thing and I think I want to make that and you will inspire those other people and knowing I've talked to y'all enough , like over the the past few years , where I feel like I have a pretty good read on your hearts and your souls and you're good people and typically good people help foster other people to do good things and do great things , so like that , really that interests me a lot . That's very inspiring to me . It makes me feel hopeful because like , okay , sweet , like there's future generations still bringing other people up .

Speaker 1 1:56:58

Like that was one of the main things when I first kind of like retired gam show . I solely just wanted to find other people to help , not carry GAM forward . Like I wanted people to carry forward doing good things , and it's very inspiring to meet people like yourselves that are like , okay , it's doing , they're doing it . You know , when my time comes , where I'm completely bald and I can't do it anymore , I know that things are going to be okay . So , thank you all for giving me , this old man , a little bit of pause and a little bit of joy , knowing that , okay , things are going to be okay . It doesn't have to be you . There's other guys , there's other people here that care and that are going to make things better .

Speaker 2 1:57:45

Well , unfortunately those lines and dots are like Linus from Charlie Brown . That's what I thought of when you said that .

Speaker 1 1:57:56

I was like oh no , he's saying that we smell . I think you smell delicious .

Speaker 3 1:58:01

Thank you , I try .

Speaker 1 1:58:05

I would eat you both .

Speaker 3 1:58:06

Well listen we should probably cut him off now .

Speaker 1 1:58:07

You should probably cut my mic .

Speaker 3 1:58:08

Go ahead , eric . You can go ahead like the moderators , we're gonna . I was under the impression there was gonna be no fact checking okay he's uh , he's done , he's done , we're we're calling it uh , before he uh digs another hole . And uh , ryan , we will carry the baton once we find out about the ryan parties also the salary .

Speaker 2 1:58:29

Let us know .

Speaker 3 1:58:31

Yeah , get back to us ASAP .

Speaker 2 1:58:32

Cheddar cheese , phil , we're going to be making all these events pay , going forward to see no more free events once we take over .

Speaker 3 1:58:41

All right , phil , he does have the ability to unmute . So before we tempt him to do so , it's because he's agreeing .

Speaker 2 1:58:57

For those of you that are listening , he is nodding and agreeing . Well , everything that you need uh , that we were that we discussed here today , as far as all the events , whether it be gam itself , whether it be the nerd market , whether it be jack's creators everything will be in the show notes of this episode , along with the Linktree link for the podcast , so you can find literally everything you need in one really small , tight package . That was really weird wording . I don't know why I went with that . I am so sorry this episode has done irreversible damage to my psyche , but it was a whole lot of fun .

Speaker 2 1:59:25

Ryan , stop that . Don't do that , but follow everybody on social media . Follow GAM , follow the Nerd Market , follow Jack's Creators , follow the Way4 Podcast . Ryan , put your hands down . Follow everything on social media , the most important ones for us for the Way4 Podcast being , of course , instagram , tiktok , discord , youtube , as well as Twitch , where we stream every other Thursday , as Ryan mentioned . A really great way to spend your holiday , post-thanksgiving . Go out there and support those small businesses , as Ryan is performing a lobotomy . For those of you that are not watching on our YouTube channel , you can also . As far as supporting the podcast . You can also head on over to Apple Podcasts , spotify , leave five-star reviews . Go to YouTube , leave comments like share , subscribe , share it with your friends , share it with your families . All of that is incredibly beneficial If you ever want to know what happens pre and post-show and you want some extra perks and benefits when it comes to the wait for a podcast .

Speaker 3 2:00:31

Eric will tell you all about that right now yeah , upset that the episode's over and that you didn't get all of the unhingedness that came with this episode . Well , we have a pre and post show right think about baseball . Think about baseball right this is how it feels whenever I'm trying to close the episode and you're doing stuff . I hope you know that .

Speaker 2 2:00:52

Let me go get something to distract you .

Speaker 3 2:00:54

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Speaker 2 2:01:26

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Speaker 1 2:01:34

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Speaker 2 2:01:57

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