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The One with Big Co-Host Energy - A SBBCU Holiday Special
Welcome to the Fifth Annual Podcast Holiday Crossover Special! We have Super Bracket Bros, Your Friendly Neighborhood Gamers, Game of Groans and The Wait for It Podcast all joining together to bring holiday cheer from the Super Bracket Bros Cinematic Universe (SBBCU).
If you enjoy this bonus episode, let us know! And please check out all the podcasts represented on this episode! Thank you, and we hope you had a Merry Christmas and happy holidays!
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Speaker 2:usually awkward.
Speaker 3:Yeah it's been cold opens. I knew that much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, that's right.
Speaker 3:We do, do cold opens, now we do.
Speaker 1:That's what we were doing. We were farming for good, cold open material.
Speaker 4:This is the coldest open of all time.
Speaker 2:I mean, Phil is talking about taking a bath with a toaster. I don't think it gets much better than that.
Speaker 4:So the key is getting a really deep tub because you don't want that thing, like you know, you don't want bad contact.
Speaker 5:Adam's family values with the big, the fester, the big tub.
Speaker 6:Yeah, that's my peak A tub like where you don't know where the source of the water is coming from. It's just in the middle of a room.
Speaker 2:And welcome back to the Christmas special.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for joining us on Super Bracket Bros, your friendly neighborhood gamers, game of Thrones and the Wait For it podcast. My name is Jay, I am your host and that's right. It is here once again. It is 2024. We are here for five years in a row of our Super Frackin' Bros Cinematic Universe, even though we're not Movies Universe Christmas Special, and I am here to kick things off for you. And let's start by introducing the many, many hosts we have here today, which you know, if listed any one of these before. You know, always makes things go super smoothly when you have nine people on a single podcast. Uh, let's start with your friendly neighborhood gamers, andrew kimball how you doing tonight andrew, I'm doing great jay.
Speaker 2:I cannot wait for, apparently, the fifth year that we're doing this it's going off without a hitch Super smooth.
Speaker 1:Perfect. Much debate about the number of years we've been doing this.
Speaker 2:Feel free to fact check us on that. You do the math, listeners.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you do that. And then we have his co-host, Dylan Wren. How you doing tonight, Dylan?
Speaker 8:I am doing well. I am looking forward to this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you brought an interesting entry to our bracket this year.
Speaker 8:I'm looking forward to hearing you talk about it. Yeah, a solid 16th seed.
Speaker 3:I knew right where that was going when you sent it to me. Yeah, that was not a problem.
Speaker 1:And then the last member of your friendly neighborhood gamers, we have Aubrey. How are you doing tonight, aubrey?
Speaker 9:I'm doing well. Glad to be back to the Christmas specials. I don't think I've been on one since Level Playing Field.
Speaker 1:Yeah, welcome back. I don't think we've had anybody depart and then come back. So welcome back to the Christmas special. We're extremely excited to have you, okay, and then we have game of groans, we have emily bateman. How you do tonight, emily?
Speaker 4:I'm good, I am ready to uh get in the weird christmas spirit we always have in this uh this holiday special.
Speaker 1:It's weird, isn't it? Yeah, it is, but it's still holiday. It's the umbrella holiday, so it, it is, yeah, no, it's uh it, but it's always a good time, and I isn't speaking of having, speaking of always having a good time, kate from game of girls.
Speaker 5:how are you doing tonight, kate? I'm like you said, I'm having a great time. Happy to be be here, love it.
Speaker 1:Good vibes you know, I thought Exactly, exactly. Welcome once again back to the Christmas special and then, last but certainly not least, we have the Wait For Podcast, starting with Phil the Filipino. How you doing tonight, phil?
Speaker 6:I'm doing well. I'm trying to get my candy cane of M&M's open and I'm struggling with the sticker, so I'll be spending most of my time doing that.
Speaker 2:It's like his fidget spinner for the episode Childhood.
Speaker 6:Also how come Dylan's Santa got?
Speaker 3:in and not mine.
Speaker 6:I did try to sabotage this thing via community all over again and just thank Jay that he didn't. It was even worse than last year, just to let you guys know.
Speaker 1:It was unequivocally worse than last year and we will get into it at some point I believe, because I'm sure Phil won't stop bringing it up, but he did admit to me that it was the right decision via Discord earlier.
Speaker 6:Wow you made the right call. That's why you're in charge here. I can't even get these M&Ms open.
Speaker 1:Just make sure, Phil, when you're opening those M&Ms, make sure to do it real close to your mic.
Speaker 6:For me, I got you, I got you, I got you Got to tap your nails along the tube and stuff Get some good.
Speaker 5:ASMR.
Speaker 8:Just scratch the sticker off.
Speaker 1:And the last member of the oh no sorry, second to last. I forgot about the old bald guy over there Wow. We have the other member of the Wait For it podcast. I think that is a candy cane full of Snickers. Eric, Mr Eric, Almighty, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 7:Eric, I'm doing great. This is starting off definitely different than last year. Last year you were like double fisting mics. This year you know a little bit cleaner. So this is great, this is great.
Speaker 1:Good, Good callback. I wouldn't say cleaner, it's different. Yeah, no, it's a different version of bad. I would say Hopefully I sound okay to the audience but I understand to everybody on this call I sound like absolute dog doo-doo. But the last member of this call officially I almost skipped him because I've recorded about two times with him all year. This year we have Elia Stokes Nelson. How you doing tonight, buddy, the bald guy Jay.
Speaker 3:Is that what you want to be?
Speaker 1:I've been demoted to the bald guy.
Speaker 5:That's how you're going to talk to Santa's son? How dare you.
Speaker 1:His father will hear of this.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I'm going to report you. Jay is definitely on the naughty list To my dad.
Speaker 2:You used to be the assistant to the bracket master.
Speaker 1:You used to be assistant to the bracketologist and now you're just the bald guy, because we don't make brackets anymore. Eli, but that is everybody. That is nine people. Yeah, count them nine. And also, what do we do here on the Christmas special? We do a bracket, and so I am breaking my non-bracket streak by doing a bracket here tonight. But we are going to be talking about as Phil alluded to best Santa, and so we have 16 individual Santas. We will be going match by match voting and deciding who is the one true Santa. I'm very much looking forward to it, and what I'm looking forward to perhaps the most is the fact that there are nine people on this call this year. Do you all know what that means? It means that there can be no ties.
Speaker 1:Do you know what no ties mean? Thanks, Aubrey.
Speaker 4:Yay, I'm here to odd things out Aubrey, aubrey, how's that?
Speaker 3:We don't know.
Speaker 7:It means we're free from the wheel. I got it. I got it. Give me a minute.
Speaker 1:And so we should have a nice clean bracket this year. What Randomness, I know, and if any of you abstain, I will leave where I am right now.
Speaker 8:You called in already. What the frickin' heck man.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I think we should just get started um ho, ho, ho, santa, he's santa in trading I know him okay, uh, so how this worked?
Speaker 1:um, so we have 16 santas, all picked by your hosts here to varying degrees. Some submitted one Santa, some submitted five Santas, some submitted the same Santa. So we should have somebody rooting for every single Santa here. So if you are the person that picked that Santa, you know I expect some chatter. But the first matchup, the 1 versus 16 seed, we have the Santa played by Nick Frost from Doctor who. The episode I believe is called the Last Christmas Versus Dylan. Just make sure I got it right here.
Speaker 8:Santa Claus conquers the Martians correct sitting at a 2.7 on IMDB for the ratings 1964.
Speaker 5:Is that the year? Yes?
Speaker 8:I have not actually watched that version. I've only ever watched the Mystery Science Theater 3000 version of this movie.
Speaker 6:My Santa is way hotter than this, Jay. This is ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Phil do we need to have a sidebar this?
Speaker 3:early.
Speaker 8:I think we should all guess what Santa Phil tried to submit and was rejected.
Speaker 2:Was it just Annie singing Santa?
Speaker 4:Baby or whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no I would have got my vote. It absolutely was.
Speaker 6:It 100% was. It's just Annie in a Santa outfit singing to Jeff.
Speaker 1:Not even playing Santa in any way, shape or form just in a Santa outfit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no yeah.
Speaker 1:Obviously, I was going to pick Martian Santa.
Speaker 7:Yeah.
Speaker 8:Okay so you haven't actually seen this?
Speaker 1:version from the original material. So what's the Mystery Science Theater version?
Speaker 8:They just make fun of it. Yeah, they watch the movie, but it's just like they comment over the entire movie, making jokes, because that's the only way that you can make it through this movie you don't know about Mystery, science, theater 3000, jay.
Speaker 2:No I don't actually, I mean like I've heard the name.
Speaker 5:If you saw, saw that you would not be surprised by that it seems like your vibe. Yeah, it seems like it does seem.
Speaker 8:It does seem like something you would enjoy but yeah, I'll keep that in mind. The, the concept of mystery science theater is they watch terrible movies and they make fun of them while they watch them and they they're like the little cutouts, uh, like you see them in this. The theater seats at the bottom basically the entire time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so you see the movie, but there's a lot of shenanigans around it yes, so I think I know how I'm gonna vote here, but just based on the fact that I've not I've seen neither of these things um but I do like doctor who? Um, yeah, kate, tell us about nick frost. I've heard good things yeah, I, I am.
Speaker 5:I think this is like where I stopped watching doctor who because, like I was just trying to catch up, I still had my, I still really missed Matt Smith and so I was kind of getting used to Peter Capaldi, um. But I really loved this Christmas special, um, nick Frost is it's, it's Santa Claus, but like in that sort of like snarky, like smart writing British way that Doctor who sort of always seems to have like kind of quippy but still very wholesome at the same time, and also it's Nick Frost and I love him. But it's just, you know, the sort of British sort of dry quippiness of it. Just it it's got that that flavor that I really enjoy of Santa Claus, where it's just like, well, I never, I can't believe this, but it's time travel and it's, you know, it's wibbly, wobbly, it's Doctor who.
Speaker 1:Quick question Is Santa Claus a Time Lord?
Speaker 5:No, I don't believe so. I think Santa Claus is just Santa Claus. I think Gosh it's, you know?
Speaker 7:Yeah, it's like what's your further question what are you?
Speaker 5:asking.
Speaker 1:What's your question?
Speaker 5:I don't understand what's not clear. He's Santa Claus.
Speaker 1:I just love that this first matchup are two Santas from sci-fi yes.
Speaker 9:I'm reading the wiki of both of them and they're equally insane plots. Yes, Like the Doctor.
Speaker 8:Who one.
Speaker 9:They're being attacked by psychic crabs and santa saves them.
Speaker 8:And then it's just martians. In the other ones. Martians kidnap santa because their children are learning too many earthling things, because they won't stop watching tv.
Speaker 9:So so it could be a doctor who episode it could it really could yeah no
Speaker 1:no, I think we got a set up. What jay? What are the parameters? What are we voting for? Is this like a one-on-one fight or somebody who embodies santa more? Yeah, what are the stats?
Speaker 6:I think, yeah, I couldn't.
Speaker 3:I couldn't find the them on versus wiki I don't think I got that um, you're gonna give me ptsd, um so, um.
Speaker 1:No, there are no stat sheets. So really I mean to be I think this is like a personal you know we we've done like best movie, best song, like you know. But I mean that like this is best santa, so whatever makes it the best santa to you. If what's important to you in a santa is its ability to beat up other santas, then that's how you're gonna vote um, but you know me personally voting well I'm going best, best santa, um, but um the the the other thing about this year.
Speaker 1:Um, so, historically, we just sort of shout out in order our votes and I try to uh, look at the screen and see who raised their hand for what your boy thought ahead this year. And he made an electronic poll for our fine contestant to vote.
Speaker 7:Yeah, way to go, jay. That 40-minute pre-show was for a reason. We're going to make it up in the back end.
Speaker 1:The 40-minute pre-show 40-minute pre-show, but we're going to zoom through these votes. I have high confidence it's going to be the shortest Christmas special ever. Bold words you shouldn't have said that Challenge accepted.
Speaker 2:Who's editing this? Because?
Speaker 3:we're definitely not still on the first matchup hey, so voting is open. I voted.
Speaker 6:Congratulations You've done your civic do we get stickers when we vote every time? Yes, I would like eight stick.
Speaker 2:Uh, wait, nope, it only counts if you post a picture of yourself with your sticker onto social media yeah, otherwise your vote doesn't upload it to your story tag everybody's podcast and then your vote will count and the vote is in.
Speaker 1:Folks, wow, just like that, so efficient, so magical. We have two votes for the santa claus conquers martian santa what we have seven what seven? Now it's anonymous and we don't know.
Speaker 5:Now it's like who voted right now, you don't know, we'll give seven votes for Dr who.
Speaker 3:Now it's like who voted for that? Now you don't know who's on your side.
Speaker 1:Dylan, it's my right not to share.
Speaker 5:Your vote is private. That is your right.
Speaker 4:No one can take that from me. I'm just surprised someone else voted.
Speaker 5:I have been meaning to watch this movie. How did you?
Speaker 4:know about it.
Speaker 5:I love older horror movies. I love older horror movies and it's one of those where I'm just like man, I gotta get into that and then I just have not had time to track it down, but it does look fun Like bonkers fun.
Speaker 8:Yeah, it would be painful if it was not the Mystery Science Theater version, so look for that one. Uh, so we can make our own that's my mystery science version of it so that's, true that's true, we could
Speaker 7:all just watch it on watch party.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's a bonus. I got my m&ms open.
Speaker 6:And, by the way, guys, I don't know if anyone's- oh, thank god, I was so worried I made sure to love when you eat on a podcast.
Speaker 2:I gave it.
Speaker 3:I gave it a good shake into the microphone, jay so we, I do that again, just to let you know.
Speaker 6:Good yeah.
Speaker 1:You cracked those M&M's open. Congrats, buddy.
Speaker 4:He's got a good.
Speaker 1:He's opening up a can of 7-Up.
Speaker 8:He's eating big.
Speaker 3:Double fisting those candy canes. Huh Don't choke.
Speaker 6:No promises.
Speaker 1:And our next matchup. Let's see this is what is this going to be? This is eight versus nine. Oh, does anybody care to guess how I seeded these Sam?
Speaker 8:The order in which you received them. Oh, they're movie reviews.
Speaker 7:I would love to think chat GBT, because that's what I'm using today.
Speaker 1:Oh, that would have been great. I should do that. I should just input it. That's Eric.
Speaker 7:If anybody was just a randomizer with extra steps. If anybody was curious, chat.
Speaker 1:GBT also shows Doctor who's Santa, so I'm just going to fill you guys in with that, as we go, you're asking chat GBT, which Santa Just going to fill you guys in with that. As we go, you're asking ChatGPT, which Santa.
Speaker 6:No. Ever since I taught Eric how to use ChatGPT, he understands why I use it for everything I'm calling this bracket into question over legitimacy.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's fair.
Speaker 1:And outside influences.
Speaker 2:Did we ever claim that there was any legitimacy? Queries rejected.
Speaker 1:I dropped my charges, eli, you want to?
Speaker 7:include ChatGPT, then that way we have ties.
Speaker 8:Oh true, no, let's do it.
Speaker 5:No, that's big wheel talking, don't give in.
Speaker 4:He just wants to use the wheel.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's all a conspiracy for the wheel.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's all.
Speaker 4:Pushing his wheel agenda.
Speaker 6:Big wheel enterprises.
Speaker 1:Somebody needs to look into Eric's stock holdings and see how many wheel generated.
Speaker 7:It's all Ikea. Some people are into gambling, I'm into wheels.
Speaker 6:Eric, I'm pretty sure at this time last year we were talking about how Briar was making us a wheel, and we still don't have that.
Speaker 7:We don't. Somebody will probably listen to this. Shout out to you, Briar.
Speaker 6:Thank you for making this.
Speaker 7:Yeah, we have another wheel on the way. Hand craft, we have another wheel in route. So we're going to need a holiday themed one as well, Briar, just so you know we have a problem.
Speaker 1:But no, I don't know. Wait, how did you?
Speaker 8:oh you never answered andrew.
Speaker 1:Andrew guessed it I am bd. I am bd rating. Yeah, I am db internet movie database internet I am. I am big wheel.
Speaker 2:We're already on the second matchup is that what you said? That's crazy, how fast this is going. Andrew is so sorry of us the shortest holiday special ever he's like.
Speaker 5:are we done yet, andrew?
Speaker 1:why did you wake up and choose violence?
Speaker 2:Jay said this was going to be the shortest episode.
Speaker 6:Not on my watch. This is not different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, see you guys just forget how the last year went.
Speaker 4:Yeah, this is nothing new, jay year with.
Speaker 2:Nothing new. Jay will hate us all. By the end He'll go full dad mode.
Speaker 5:You know what? No, no one gets anything.
Speaker 2:I'm not making a bracket next year.
Speaker 1:So I do bring it up because originally I tried to just through pure jank, figure out how to rank these by box office, even though some of them aren't movies and some of them went direct to streaming. Um, but um, yeah, that was, that was bad, because I, I, I, literally, I, only I, I think miracle on 34th street. The website I was using said it made like two thousand dollars which was like a billion back then In this economy, in this economy.
Speaker 8:Inflation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you adjust that for inflation. Pay like a nickel to go to the movies, definitely made more than Red One or whatever that movie is, oh good.
Speaker 1:Eight versus nine. We have, as Santa Mickey Rooney in, santa Claus is Coming to Town, versus Not Mickey Rourke Versus Not Mickey Rourke. Versus Alec Baldwin as Santa from Rise of the Guardians, the animated movie from 2012.
Speaker 9:The Santa Claus he plays does wield two swords and have the naughty and nice list tattooed on his forearms, and he speaks with a very fun Russian accent that sounds dope.
Speaker 2:I think I've seen that once.
Speaker 4:Say more about this.
Speaker 1:Good soul, did I hear a swear?
Speaker 3:You said a bad word. You said a bad word. Don't swear, it's Christmas word.
Speaker 4:You have to do this. That's a real bad swear.
Speaker 2:Don't swear, it's Christmas that means Jay has to edit this. He swore first.
Speaker 6:Oh my God, That'd be off. The first person who swears has to edit. We can't do that.
Speaker 5:I'd end up doing it and I'll do a bad one. I don't know how, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I just meant for this episode.
Speaker 6:You can learn. You can learn. This will come out in February. I'll see you later.
Speaker 5:It'll be the 2025 Christmas.
Speaker 3:A whole year later.
Speaker 2:And we still won't know how many we've done. No, no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we should record these a year in advance, because that's how long it takes to edit. So, let's see. Rise of the Guardians is pulling ahead in the vote right now.
Speaker 3:Oh, four to one. I'm curious who I have to vote.
Speaker 1:Wait, who voted or who brought which one?
Speaker 4:I did Santa.
Speaker 1:Claus is Coming to Town.
Speaker 4:Because I like Rankin.
Speaker 3:Bass. I love that one. It's so good.
Speaker 4:It's the story of Santa Claus. It's cute.
Speaker 3:It explains everything.
Speaker 8:I also love.
Speaker 1:Young's just the look of young Santa.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 1:Just like blue eyed and just I don't know it's so cheery. But, Aubrey, you picked this Rides of the Guardians one.
Speaker 9:Yeah, it's got Chris Pine as Jack Frost, hugh Jackman as the Easter Bunny, keeping his Australian accent, which is a fun little twist. I can't think of who plays the Tooth Fairy, but the idea is they're chosen by the man in the moon to protect children's dreams, and so Jude Law plays the boogeyman Nightmares in the shadow kind of a thing, and so they've got to stop him from stealing children's dreams.
Speaker 7:I will second, that's actually a fun movie.
Speaker 9:It's a really fun movie. It's a very animated movie.
Speaker 5:I can't believe I haven't watched it yet.
Speaker 6:I need to check it out.
Speaker 5:You gotta, it's so good.
Speaker 1:I will say this is the hardest design of Santa I've ever seen. Right, the naughty nice tattoos. That's going way harder than they should.
Speaker 9:And instead of the elves making the toys, they're just these like kind of silly little gnome things that are super ineffective. And it's actually yetis that he's got at his shop building all of the toys amazing yeah, no, I, I do love the right.
Speaker 1:I, I mean just I. I just love the rise of the guardians lore like I know it's like yeah to me it's great.
Speaker 9:world building it's good. It is. It's good, it's a good movie. I do agree. No, it's a really cool idea, it's just the way you said.
Speaker 2:I really love the lore. It was like I imagine you listening to like three hour video essays on Rise of the Guardians.
Speaker 7:That's what he was doing, instead of getting on.
Speaker 3:He was just he's like I'm almost done.
Speaker 1:Guys, I have one more video essay I need to watch. To get ready, I didn't watch the kill count, but I did watch this more essay 3.5 on Letterboxd is pretty good, we should, I need to watch this.
Speaker 2:We have two watch parties.
Speaker 6:Jay gave it a four on Letterboxd in case you want to know.
Speaker 3:And Caleb gave it a two, oh wow.
Speaker 6:Oh no, you filled both the seats you guys are going to have to talk about that.
Speaker 1:Eli, don't swear this is going to be so mad you're dead drag his butt we're doing pretty good, Eric.
Speaker 6:I'm proud of this, Honestly.
Speaker 7:it's the most shocking thing. I was like I was for sure going to cuss in the first five seconds.
Speaker 1:And you guys are blowing me out of the water. It's tough Wait. Does that mean I have?
Speaker 2:to edit.
Speaker 8:No, jay already blew it. Oh no.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's the first one, gotcha, yeah yeah, With that, the voting is complete.
Speaker 1:It is very, I know. I said I think I said four to one.
Speaker 8:It ended up being five to four in favor of the Vice of the Guardians. But what did ChatGPT vote?
Speaker 5:No, yes, guys, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 7:Yes, well, ChatGPT's opinion. I also did have it give bullet points of each one in favor, for so that way I have a good comparison, but it does give me.
Speaker 1:You get some talking points.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I did ask for a winner at the end and it was Alec Baldwin Rise of the Guardians.
Speaker 8:So two for two, let's go Interesting.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen Rise of the Guardians. I like the design, but that Santa Claus is coming to town is just so classic.
Speaker 6:I that Santa Claus is coming to town. It's just, it's so classic. I voted that one too. Eric, why did you ask ChatGPT? You hate this style of animation from Santa Claus is coming to town. No, I didn't have to, I just did it. Yeah, no.
Speaker 7:Any Claymation Christmas stuff. I think we talked about this last year.
Speaker 4:We did Throw it in the trash. Throw it in the trash.
Speaker 7:Yeah you were Christmas cards. Throw them in the trash.
Speaker 1:You're a hater man. That's a pure haterade right there.
Speaker 4:I need his address to send him a card this year.
Speaker 5:Exactly.
Speaker 8:My card looks good this year. Andrew and Eric are two different kinds of Grinches.
Speaker 1:Eric is definitely more of like the heel.
Speaker 8:Grinch. He thrives on the hatred.
Speaker 7:I've got a promo right now. I'll do it right now.
Speaker 1:I feel like, andrew, you're just a grinch like, even if nobody's around, you're still andrew.
Speaker 5:Andrew is the benedict cumberbatch grinch, where he's very understated. He's just kind of like, oh fine and I'm like jim's carry, I'm like loathing yeah, yeah, you're like.
Speaker 4:Like chewing on the scenery yeah, okay, what's next?
Speaker 9:back to you, jay come on host host jay just paused for a whole second like he was overwhelmed I don't know if you guys were watching, but it was.
Speaker 7:I've never seen jay act like that before. He just like he almost was like gonna end it all like it was over the episode's over I can't.
Speaker 2:He's out of practice I can't get over.
Speaker 1:Come on, host, host I I legitimately, actually very out of practice this is a little overwhelming, like I am like thrown in the deep end
Speaker 6:luckily I eased you into it yeah, no, it's, it's good.
Speaker 1:It's good, it's good, okay, the four versus four versus 13. I don't need glasses, it's good, it's good. It's good, okay, the four versus 13. I don't need glasses. It's just two feet from my face and I couldn't see the numbers. It's fine. We have Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer Santa, versus the Polar Express Santa, which is also played by Tom Hanks, the same as which I guess you're supposed to realize that the engineer is also Santa, I guess, in the movie.
Speaker 5:Isn't the little kid face-matched from Tom Hanks too? Everybody is Tom Hanks in that movie. Yeah, he plays everybody in that movie.
Speaker 9:Yeah, Tom.
Speaker 2:Hanks plays everybody in that movie. Plays the dad plays Santa, plays the conductor.
Speaker 9:I think at least the mo-cap for the kid, yeah, for all of them. Yeah, I think, like the face and voice. Is that why it's?
Speaker 5:so horrible? Yeah, it lives in the uncanny valley. That's why.
Speaker 2:It's because of when it was made, like at the time it was made it was like state-of-the-art animation.
Speaker 9:but it has not aged well.
Speaker 5:I have no feelings about that movie. It's weird.
Speaker 7:It's not aged well, I don't know. I watch the Polar.
Speaker 2:Express every year. It's like that Beowulf movie they made.
Speaker 8:Polar Express falls in that background Christmas movie camp for me.
Speaker 1:Read the book. I don't dislike it, but I'm putting it on in the background.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's ambient, but I'm just like I'm not watching this. This is nothing.
Speaker 6:I've seen that movie in IMAX why, I'm sorry, how was that?
Speaker 2:I'm sure it was cool.
Speaker 5:It's one of those movies that I'll watch and I'll say man, I bet this was cool in 3D yeah, my daughter's mom's side of the family.
Speaker 6:It's like their Christmas movie so, and I don't mind it because I put it mostly because I wanted to submit more than two, so I I put more than allison brief.
Speaker 9:Yeah well, she was actually my fourth she was my fourth santa, when I love the music from it.
Speaker 4:All of the music is great oh, oh, also I brought a prop. Does everyone still believe? I believe.
Speaker 7:First he's eating then he has a prop.
Speaker 1:Eric, did I hear you also trying to defend this Polar Express? Santa?
Speaker 7:Yeah, Polar Express is a good time. What do you mean?
Speaker 5:It's because Rudolph's claymation and you don't like it.
Speaker 7:Well, that too, yes, no, I understand I understand there may be a shift here.
Speaker 3:Just off of that, that news, I feel like we're gonna. We're gonna argue here.
Speaker 7:I mean also. I mean, we could have picked a better santa, probably, admittedly so I mean. I mean maybe but also the Polar.
Speaker 9:Express Santa has presence.
Speaker 4:That's right.
Speaker 9:Like not gifts presence, but like presence, like when he shows up, finally, like all the kids are trying to see him, the scene where it like happens and the kid can't hear the bells on the sleigh, and then the camera finally like cuts to him and he's like right there and the you know his face looks a little freaky, but like the animation surrounding him. And he's like right there and the you know his face looks a little freaky, but like the animation surrounding him and everything is like yeah, he's, this is santa, like, and that you kind of feel like how impactful it would be to a kid like that he has.
Speaker 1:He has the best showmanship.
Speaker 9:I think of the santas yeah, santa, and rudolph, the red-nosed reindeer, is a hater. I love him so much.
Speaker 5:Okay, I put him on my list. My note I added was specifically the skinny grumpy version in the beginning where he's like I don't want to eat, I don't care this, I don't want to listen to your dumb music.
Speaker 7:I have to go. It's terrible exactly he's like it needs work.
Speaker 5:I have to go and I'm like I love this, this is great, he just delights me, um. And then he gets his life together and he does what he needs to do. In the end, he comes around, you know, and isn't that really just inspirational? Like you just want to help. Rudolph at all? No, not at all he says how can you help me? This is transactional.
Speaker 9:He piles on like everybody else. You know what which. To be fair, the noise that rudolph's nose make is really annoying listen, rudolph is not on trial here that's not what we're getting into we're
Speaker 5:not getting into weeds on the sound effects from this 50 plus year old animated special.
Speaker 2:Oh, we gotta be coming up on 70 or 80 years we don't think you can see that it's lighting up just visually, so we have to give you a sound cue as well. How about a high-pitched?
Speaker 9:how about hearing?
Speaker 2:aid feedback I think, that'll get your attention.
Speaker 8:Yeah, and it does well, it's old enough that I'm wondering if a lot of people maybe didn't have color tvs at the time so they had to be like hey to indicate it's lighting up here's the uh wow that is here's an annoying noise that's a thought I never had.
Speaker 1:I don't think there's a. There's just a. There's just a. There's a meeting. A guy writes annoying sound effects and like circles
Speaker 9:it question mark profit circles it 25 times uh with that note, the voting is in.
Speaker 1:folks, um, and that is going to be six votes for Rudolph the red nose reindeer, santa uh, played by Stan Francis, by the way, I don't think I mentioned that. Or top toppling the Tom Hanks Santa um, who got a astounding three votes. You know, I want to. I want to like, you know, polar Express. I do like Polar Express.
Speaker 7:I kind of dumped on it a little bit. But I don't know, robert zemeckis just has a, has a magic, I can't deny, even if the panache, the panache, the movie is literally to go see santa. I mean it's literally rudolph the red-nosed reindeer. Santa's not like a side character.
Speaker 9:That's crazy I mean to be fair. He's a side character in a lot of these movies.
Speaker 7:Yeah, aubrey, I believe you were you. You were like, yeah, he's cool, but he's got a freakish face. I feel like that's where we lost him.
Speaker 5:You're the one using ChatGPT. You can't get mad at the computers.
Speaker 7:ChatGPT. This is the first loss.
Speaker 5:No, I don't want to hear about it. No, no, no, no, no the Polar.
Speaker 7:Express, so we're two and one.
Speaker 5:Yeah, because it's going to vote for the other.
Speaker 4:CGI thing the other robot.
Speaker 9:It's going to be like ah yes, computers.
Speaker 3:My brother, brother, you must win the bracket.
Speaker 1:Brother, why Put down that traditional art Santa? Yeah, that's the enemy.
Speaker 6:Yeah. No hand-drawn characters here.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that checks, out.
Speaker 8:That's ChatGPT.
Speaker 6:It's bad, my brother Brother why, if anyone's curious, jay gave this a 3.5 on Letterboxd. Oh my god.
Speaker 1:Which one? I don't appreciate this.
Speaker 6:I don't remember rating the Polar.
Speaker 3:Express on Letterboxd. I gave it a 2.5. This is my pick.
Speaker 1:I will be adjusting it after this call Because apparently at some point I rated a bunch of movies that I don't remember.
Speaker 5:I'll keep you guys updated as we go, Because I also don't remember the other one you mentioned. Did you do that thing where you were like let me rate every movie I've ever seen, and then you go. Man, I'm tired.
Speaker 1:I did do that at one point, yeah, I think that was good, I understand yep, yep I was
Speaker 2:like are you guys ready for a main character? Santa, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1:You stole my you said you were rusty, I'm trying to help you out it's called a segue guys, I had I had one transition in my brain. I had I did it once you stole it from the audience at home. Jay just pulled and drew aside and is yelling at him in the corner.
Speaker 6:We're all sitting there awkwardly gesticulating wildly with a pen he just brought him to a breakout room where they're both gone terrifying because jay's like six feet tall.
Speaker 2:We've seen the photos the five versus 12 seed.
Speaker 1:Yes, there's photo evidence of how much taller I am than all of you.
Speaker 2:Bill really helped me out in that picture?
Speaker 9:I'm not that tall.
Speaker 2:Jay was like huddled over in the plane flying.
Speaker 1:Five, five, five, five, five, five, five versus 12. We have the Santa, not Santa Claus. Sandy Claus from the Nightmare Before Christmas taking on the Santa Claus, aka Tim Allen, santa Claus, ika, tim Allen's Santa Claus. I mostly shout out Sandy Claus because this is my platform to say Nightmare Before Christmas is a simultaneously Halloween and Christmas movie. You can watch it either season that's fair.
Speaker 9:It's a transitional film.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I also love this.
Speaker 1:We talk about side characters in these movies. Sandy Claus in Nightmare Before Christmas just gets kidnapped tortured and then lectures to Jackabot.
Speaker 5:He's so grumpy the whole time he's like what is this? What are you doing?
Speaker 8:But he's so justified he's so justified in being grumpy.
Speaker 1:He just was minding his own business. He gets kidnapped by these three demonic gremlins.
Speaker 4:Who want to take over his holiday? In no way is he overreacting.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he's not overreacting, he's like I'm rightfully annoyed.
Speaker 1:But to credit him after everything he said you know what, jack, you have the Halloween spirit. Anyway, I'm not going to hold a grudge. It's just like I don't know Again. I just find it Fixes. Christmas gives him snow. Yeah, he's sweet but justifiably grumpy.
Speaker 8:Absolutely Yep.
Speaker 1:Sounds like someone else. I know Me.
Speaker 3:Sorry about me Someone you know, very well, hopefully, or not at all.
Speaker 1:But yeah, no, I did appreciate this show. This is the only candidate that Eli gave me and I had to ask him directly about it.
Speaker 2:That's co-host behavior.
Speaker 1:Yeah, classic, tell me about it, I think I saw everybody was like I'm going to submit five Santa Claus's and I was like you know what? I'm good.
Speaker 2:That's funny. Yeah, exactly, they got this.
Speaker 1:They got this. My God, the co-host behavior is off the charts.
Speaker 3:It's when they're all together.
Speaker 5:We're all like feeding off of each other. We're combining their powers.
Speaker 9:There's more of them this year. What do we do?
Speaker 3:we derail oh, we have a document where's the link again? I don't know how to read what's a? Podcast.
Speaker 1:Jay, how do I read?
Speaker 8:this document, emily, do I have?
Speaker 5:a mic.
Speaker 4:I bought it for you.
Speaker 5:Can you tell me how to Okay?
Speaker 1:do you know when is it? Can you tell me where it is, Jay? My computer is on fire. What should I do there?
Speaker 4:are flames surrounding the screen right.
Speaker 8:You know what sucks is. I have so many tech problems.
Speaker 4:I can't help you.
Speaker 1:I'd say Jay's the wrong person to ask right now, apparently, yeah, absolutely cursed um. But, um, yeah, does anybody want to chip in for, uh, old old timmy. Um, timmy, it's pretty big, pretty big name, pretty big name on this list. Um, if I do say so myself, it's like one of the only like santa claus movies that I feel like I end up watching on a regular basis.
Speaker 6:Yeah, this was one of my other Santas. It definitely holds like a nostalgic place in my heart from when I was a kid and I think this one, if you like, ignore the other two Santa Claus movies. If they had just like ended it here, I think you're probably talking about it in a different light. Fun fact, I got Santa Claus 3, the one with Jack Frost in it for Eric as a gag gift a couple years ago and told him I was going to buy it for him every year, so I need to order this year's actually still no, don't, don't do that.
Speaker 3:No, no, we insist.
Speaker 6:But no, I very much love it. As much as Tim Allen kind of sucks now, I still very much love this movie. I think the relationship with Charlie is very cute and I think it's just a really cool premise overall to get a nice little twist on the Santa Claus. But this is a bad pull to go up against nightmares.
Speaker 5:No, I like this one honestly, like, especially as a main character, santa. I mean like Jay and then Andrew were saying, like it's we don't have anywhere. It's like this is very Santa focused, like this is what, like you know, this is the entire point.
Speaker 6:You know this was right in his home improvement era, so like he was still. You know this is the entire point.
Speaker 5:You know this was right in his home improvement era, so like he was still, you know, like the family guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, my husband can do that noise and it's terrifying. I hate it.
Speaker 9:Is he the first one so far with a confirmed kill?
Speaker 5:Well, santa Claus versus the Martians, well, he probably has a body count in that movie.
Speaker 2:But they weren't humans.
Speaker 8:No, he probably is a body count in that movie, but they weren't humans.
Speaker 6:So no, they kept trying to kill santa in that movie. So why is the guardian santa? There's no, like they don't fight in that movie they fight shadows, like these weird shadow horses.
Speaker 9:Yeah, shadows are people. Yeah, you wow controversial um.
Speaker 2:I also submitted this one as like my third pick. Tim allen, uh, the santa claus yeah mostly because of like nostalgia, like I. Well, I can't forget the trailers, like the commercial for this movie. When we were watching tv as kids it was like the scene of him in the doctor's office and like his beard, like, just keep growing or whatever, and it was like the.
Speaker 2:That's just kind of like core childhood memories of this movie. It's not one that I feel like I watch consistently, but anytime I do I'm like yeah, it's pretty solid movie. Um, I, I really wanted to submit three. I felt like that was a good, solid number. So, like this was my number three. So it's not one that I'm like the most attached to, but it was one that came to mind when I was thinking of like iconic santa clauses yeah yeah, I saw that this one was on the list and I was like so I don't have to submit this one.
Speaker 8:So yeah, because you submitted after I had created the bracket to be fair all of that messaging happened in facebook messenger, which doesn't give me notifications for some reason you don't get notifications for anything.
Speaker 6:I sent dylan a message about a video game like months ago. Okay and he responded after the game had come out. Who games until?
Speaker 9:3 am. I'll send him a text at like9 pm and it's like oh yeah, dylan's like got notifications turned off he's in bed.
Speaker 6:He doesn't reply to text. I know you're still up either. I said I sent him the trailer for a game. I was like man, this looks terrible months later. Yeah, it does. And then I was like oh, I bought it in my defense.
Speaker 8:Phil phil's thing went to like my message requests in instagram and I didn't know that I had those, so also I apologize to everyone else who I didn't answer, because I didn't know I had message requests so the co-hosts are really competing tonight.
Speaker 1:Andrew, we're eating good hey.
Speaker 5:I sent my request on Wednesday. Okay, You're welcome.
Speaker 1:You did. Yeah, We'll do a co-host bracket on the after show. That'll be the breakout rooms. We'll have a co-host room and a host room. We'll all do brackets. Okay, let's see we have nine votes, everybody Coming in with seven votes. We have Tim Allen's Santa Claus taking the win here. Yeah, so, Eli, you probably voted for Nightmare Before Christmas, but who else voted for Nightmare Before Christmas? The Halloween movie yeah, before Christmas. But who else voted?
Speaker 7:for A Nightmare Before Christmas. The Halloween movie yeah, After Eli said he gets kidnapped and then gives a lecture, I thought we were all on the same page that this was going to be a quick one but, we really we really shrugged in that argument there.
Speaker 1:When you look at what he did in the movie, it's just like man. It just kind of got dragged around.
Speaker 7:Also three and one for chat gbt. Tim allen was the choice, so if you're keeping track at home moving on, I'm not talking to you match
Speaker 6:up. Sorry you didn't say at home. I'm at home, phil's at home.
Speaker 1:Moving on to the two versus 15 seed, we have JK Simmons as Klaus and we're going up against the Santa from Santa's Sleigh and for those at home, that is S-L-A-Y.
Speaker 3:Wow, what a creative.
Speaker 1:So creative, so creative. Eric, explain yourself. I'm going to need you to talk us through this one.
Speaker 7:Yeah, no, no for sure. First of all, don't appreciate the ranking.
Speaker 6:That's not his fault.
Speaker 7:This is a terrible matchup um, I would like the fact that jk was not sad I would like the fact that jk simmons plays santa in red one to count against his uh performance in klaus, but listen gonna, gonna grasp at straws here, I don't know how many people got to check
Speaker 9:out the desperation.
Speaker 1:I don't know how many people got to check out the kill count.
Speaker 7:I could smell the desperation. I don't know how many people checked out the kill count. Oh my God.
Speaker 8:Eric, you're sweating, unlike most of the Santas.
Speaker 5:Even ChatGPT is like hey, man, I don't know, oh, you guys are not going to.
Speaker 7:Yeah, I'm not excited about what ChatGPT is telling me. I will tell you, but will we honor it? That santa from santa's sleigh is a demon, um, so you know, that's, that's great, and he kills a lot of people, a lot of people. Children, don't listen. This is a bad. This is a bad santa to watch adult at the fun time.
Speaker 6:Phil, tell him it's a terrible movie and I watched borderlands this year so do you want the? Synopsis the whole thing, the whole thing. So this is bad? Yeah, go ahead and read the synopsis.
Speaker 4:It says Santa Claus is actually a demon who lost a bet with an angel. So he becomes the giver of toys and happiness, but when the bet is off he returns to his evil ways.
Speaker 6:What was the first kill in the movie? I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 7:I don't remember exactly what the first kill, but within that first scene he does set someone on fire. He does kill someone with a turkey leg, he kicks them down. I'm pretty sure he does some type of wrestling move to one of them?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we cut the Muppets, yeah, right.
Speaker 5:Hey, hey, the muppets, yeah right, hey, I should have fought harder. That's on me, I'd buy a professional wrestle.
Speaker 9:No wrestler no one's heard of sounds like a ron perlman I've never.
Speaker 5:I've never seen this movie, but I I saw the cover of it and I distinctly remember seeing this movie cover because I this movie came out in 2005 and I worked at blockbuster in 2006 and I remember seeing this case rip I'm I'm 90 years old. I will dissolve into dust after this podcast um but I remember seeing this cover and going what is happening we were also like 18 and now I know what's happening, yeah I I was a scaredy cat and I didn't like horror movies.
Speaker 2:So, jay, is it 8v1?
Speaker 1:Oh well actually two people haven't voted yet.
Speaker 3:Oh, there's another one just came in. Yep, yep.
Speaker 7:We didn't even do any pro arguments for Klaus, by the way.
Speaker 3:We don't have to, that's crazy.
Speaker 8:We don't have to.
Speaker 7:That's crazy, we don't have to.
Speaker 1:I guess we'll talk about him next time. That's a second round conversation.
Speaker 2:We'll talk about Klaus when it wins, if anyone's curious me.
Speaker 6:Jay and Caleb all gave this a four and a half. Klaus and Eric gave it a three and a half.
Speaker 3:What did he give Santa's sleigh?
Speaker 8:He has outrated Santa's sleigh. I didn't rate it, but a 5 out of 5 really really go ahead and lock that in.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna do it right now yeah, I'm gonna need to see that locked in on the old letterbox, eric. Moving on to the 7 versus 10.
Speaker 7:What was the? What was the count? It was 8 to 1. Eric, I know you know that it was 8 to 1 To the 7 versus 10. Whoa, what was that? What was the count? What was the count? It was 8 to 1,.
Speaker 6:Eric, I know, you know that it was 8 to 1.
Speaker 5:Eric it's okay.
Speaker 7:What did Chad GPT say, klaus yeah, it said you fool.
Speaker 1:But yet there was one vote for Santa's sleigh. That's interesting.
Speaker 5:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:Did you go against your robotic overclock?
Speaker 3:No, I could never. And vote for Samson? No, I could never.
Speaker 1:Seven versus ten. We have Edmund Nguyen from Miracle on 34th Street. This is the original Miracle on 34th Street going up against Ed Asner as Santa in Elf.
Speaker 2:I submitted Elf, but this is a tough matchup. Same I submitted Elf. But this is a tough matchup. Same I submitted Elf too.
Speaker 5:I love it, I love. Ed Asner so much, he's so good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do too. I know you want to talk about wholesome Santas yeah.
Speaker 5:Ed Asner still has that little bit of an edge and you're just like okay, but Miracle on 34th Street is just the purest version of Santa.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like Eli's dad.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That is actually him Believe it or not?
Speaker 2:I believe it, I believe.
Speaker 3:Richard Attenborough.
Speaker 1:No, it's not I, I, so I've never, I I haven't seen either version of Miracle on 34th Street.
Speaker 2:That explains a lot.
Speaker 3:Oh geez, thanks Of all the things you said today.
Speaker 5:I don't know why that tripped me up the most.
Speaker 3:It just felt mean I don't know why.
Speaker 8:That cut deeper for some reason.
Speaker 1:So I guess I really like the Elf Santa though it's still good? No, it's okay, Jay no.
Speaker 2:Your tears will not sway my vote. Damn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I didn't expect that. Andrew's got kids. He's you know, yeah, he's like no.
Speaker 7:Phil, did you want to talk about your love for Elf?
Speaker 6:Oh yeah, Elf is a terrible movie. It is gross. What it's not funny.
Speaker 8:What is wrong with you?
Speaker 6:It is Will Ferrell's like like one of his worst movies by far.
Speaker 4:It is did you see the sherlock movie?
Speaker 2:he did so all phil's other whoa that was worse.
Speaker 5:Can we kick? Phil out it's a departure for will ferrell elf is an awful christmas movie phil and eric are just trying to get all this are we surprised?
Speaker 4:they did it last year as the musical.
Speaker 6:Isn't that right, eric?
Speaker 5:they show up to be the heels every year. That's what it is, isn't that right eric? It's as good as the musical, isn't that right Eric? They show up to be the heels every year. That's what it is, isn't that right Eric?
Speaker 6:It's as good as the musical you saw.
Speaker 7:Elf the Musical is a tough watch. I mean Tough watch Well just like the movie.
Speaker 1:What's the letterbox ranking for Elf around the table, Phil.
Speaker 6:You have given it a three and a half. Caleb has not rated it I. That's why I gave it a two and that's wow.
Speaker 3:I feel like that's better than I thought you were gonna rate it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm gonna lower that, yeah, that description elf feels like one of the will ferrell movies where he like, like his behavior canonically makes sense, like because of his upbringing and like the thing, like he thought he was raised as like an elf, and then then, when he goes into the real world, it makes sense that he's acting like a buffoon.
Speaker 4:Most other ones.
Speaker 2:In Step Brothers or Talladega. Nights or any of his other movies it's like this is just a cartoon, yeah With live action people.
Speaker 1:He's great. Ed Esner's a good Santa, though.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I do agree. I don't like this matchup, I wish they both could win yeah his grudge with the park range is great.
Speaker 1:The proper oh so good so good, but with all that being said, the vote is in. Folks, uh, that is an astounding three votes for ed asner and six votes for. Miracle on 34th Street. So Miracle on 34th Street is moving on much to, I mean, I guess, not much to my chagrin, I'm not too upset about it.
Speaker 5:I'm excited about this next matchup for them, like the next bracket with Klaus and Miracle on 34th Street. That's exciting. I love that. That's a conversation that's two different versions of just wholesome, exactly, but still like super wh.
Speaker 1:that's a conversation. That's two different versions of just wholesome exactly super wholesome, except one has an arc. So let's all just remember that wow.
Speaker 2:Mr Never.
Speaker 7:Seen Miracle at 34th Street talking. I've heard enough. Well, that's why we can trust. We can trust.
Speaker 3:Chad.
Speaker 9:Levy don't say it. What did you just say?
Speaker 5:say that to my face movies before we can trust chat. Don't, don't, don't, don't say five and one what did you just say no?
Speaker 1:say that to my face, jay eli, I invited you to come to the studio with me, but you said no, so I could.
Speaker 5:We could be hashing it out right now eli, you could have been on your phone next to jay we could hear you on both of your phones.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I'd be echoing the whole time.
Speaker 1:What a nightmare we could hear bald guy echoed throughout both phones Bald guy, bald guy, bald guy my favorite podcast character, bald guy, moving on to 3 versus 14. We have slotted in. I did not re-review the IMDB score for this. That's okay, but I'm assuming it well deserves the three seed. We have Robot Santa from Futurama played by John Goodman. I believe we decided Going up against Paul Giamatti playing Santa in Fred Claus. I've never seen Fred Claus. Yeah, I haven't seen Fred Claus either.
Speaker 2:What does ChatGPT say?
Speaker 7:I can tell you guys it's so funny.
Speaker 1:It's like yeah, I've never seen Fred Claus and I love the robot Santa from Futurama, but robot Santa just goes around murdering everybody yeah.
Speaker 7:Yeah, we don't like murdering Santas here, so we should not pick that one.
Speaker 6:Rachel Wise is in Fred Claus. Okay, I'll watch it.
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 6:Check it out oh Spacey's in this.
Speaker 8:I did see that.
Speaker 3:I did see that.
Speaker 1:I was going to ask who voted for Paul Giamatti.
Speaker 8:Do you like Fred?
Speaker 4:Claus, yes I enjoy it, and I was just trying to find five, honestly, and try and think of ones. It's basically Vince Vaughn, yes, is Santa Claus's brother, but he doesn't tell anyone and he hates it and so he stays away. But they have this overbearing mother, played by Kathy Bates, who is like stressing out who's stressing out Santa? And then, like he needs I think Vince Vaughn needs money. So in order to get the money from his brother, nick, he has, to like, go and help him with Christmas stuff and whatnot. And it's, yeah, it's, silly, and so he eventually helps, you know, with christmas, but, um, yeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 1:It's an overworked and probably anxiety-ridden santa so I don't know, I I didn't, I didn't like I had a feeling when I found out I was played by no he's, he's stressed.
Speaker 5:It's exactly what you expect, paul Giamatti, as Santa.
Speaker 1:Claus would be it's like, okay, all right, Paul Giamatti's not bringing that subdued wholesome. It's wholesome in that he loves his family. It is fun though.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, it's entertaining.
Speaker 9:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Rachel.
Speaker 5:Weisz is in it. Our mom loves this movie too. She really does.
Speaker 1:No, it is also like, I feel like a classic.
Speaker 4:Vince Vaughn oh gosh, yes, he's the exact same person.
Speaker 1:To like yeah, he plays Vince Vaughn.
Speaker 2:And like he plays in movies that like advertise themselves to be like kind of raunchy, stupid comedies, but then the like last 30, 45 minutes or some sort of like wholesome message yeah, wedding crashers stop being funny halfway through it falls in love with wedding crashers.
Speaker 5:You expect that in fred clausen that I have cried at the end of it like they're just like big, like emotional beats, and I'm like, why? Why am I crying at a vince van movie? What did you do to me?
Speaker 1:I want to pause here for a second. Nobody else vote because there's only one person that hasn't voted and the current total is four to four.
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 2:You want to shame that person.
Speaker 1:Yes, I do.
Speaker 2:Oh, who voted? Somebody voted last.
Speaker 7:It was probably ChatGPT. Who was it ChatGPT? Was it ChatGPT? It might be.
Speaker 5:It depends who won when there was one vote left. That was when ChatGPT carried you.
Speaker 1:But no, I wanted to put whoever was last on the spot, but the last vote has been cast. That is nine votes. Wait, does anybody want to say anything about Futurama Santa Robot.
Speaker 3:Santa.
Speaker 1:This is just another Santa that murders indiscriminately.
Speaker 6:It's a funny cartoon, yeah, but entertaining.
Speaker 1:If I remember, they built the Santa to be the most efficient gift giver. But he went haywire and just everyone was naughty and just started murdering everybody.
Speaker 9:His programming for naughty and nice was way too harsh, and so he found everybody naughty, and so instead of gifts, he launched grenades.
Speaker 6:Doesn't he breathe fire?
Speaker 9:Yes, but he does get together in one of the movies with Kwanzaa Bot and the Hanukkah zombie yeah.
Speaker 6:I love Futurama. It's so good.
Speaker 1:But with that winning the vote 5-4,. That is going to be Paul Giamatti moving on. Starring as, starring as.
Speaker 7:That may have been a shocker to some, but for ChatGPT it was not.
Speaker 5:Shut up, Eric.
Speaker 1:Wait, ChatGPT didn't vote for the robot.
Speaker 7:No, it said Santa From Fred Claus Paul Giamatti.
Speaker 5:It said hey, I'm your friend, it's okay, All right.
Speaker 1:The last matchup of the first round. We have six versus 11. We have the Santa from A Christmas Story. Ho ho ho, Ho, ho, ho, Ho ho ho Going up against David Harbour's portrayal of Santa Claus in Violent.
Speaker 4:Night, all right.
Speaker 1:Who voted Violent. I haven't seen the movie. Okay Is it good, oh, my God Okay.
Speaker 5:Let me so everything Okay Aesthetic. I have a lot of feelings about David Harbour in Violent Night. This is a PG podcast so I can't say a lot of those feelings. But if you like the general vibe of the um, alec baldwin, uh, russian super beefed up, tatted santa from rise of the guardians, but you want a little bit more murder and real life, you will love David Harbour in Violent Night. He is fantastic. He is basically a very jaded, slightly alcoholic Santa who is just kind of done with everything. But then there is a God. It's like. The plot essentially is that there's a rich family that is like. It's like it's like succession, where it's just like the family is like fighting within each other. But then there's like like assassins or something coming to kill this like prestigious family and so the girl wishes, like the little girl in the family, she wishes for Santa to come save her and so he goes OK, and then he basically just like Fights off all these assassins and, like you know, is like murdering a lot of people but like righteously murdering them.
Speaker 5:But then, there was definitely a certain point watching this movie where I was like, oh, this seems like fun, it's. You know, I like David Harbour, I love Stranger Things, I, you know, like this vibe, I think this will be fun. And then, like a third of the way in, I was like, oh, my husband and I are watching this for very different reasons. Um, I'm obsessed with this movie. It's really good. Um, yeah, that's, that's my vibe. If you guys look at pictures, you will understand what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Chef's kiss I saw the trailer and I was like that looks really fun it's a really fun movie and he is just he, he does it.
Speaker 5:So it's like I know the new hellboy wasn't great, but it's him just capturing that same kind of vibe, like the sort of like little bit jaded swagger, but then, like you know, he has a good heart. John like was almost in this. It's yeah, john like was almost in it it. I heard about that. I want to say he's one of the assassins, but I'm not sure. But no, it's very, very good.
Speaker 7:I like it a lot. On a serious note, I really did want to see that when I saw the trailer because I was hearing good things when it came out. On an unserious note now that we've opened the door back up to murderous Santa, can we talk about Santa's sleigh a little bit longer?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 5:No well, no, chatdpt said we were done, so we get to move on. Your best friend said we were done with that.
Speaker 6:David Harbour and Bill Goldberg are not the same.
Speaker 7:They're pretty similar.
Speaker 1:Okay, now to pivot to the other direction. Who voted for the mean Santa from Christmas Story?
Speaker 5:Of course Andrew did.
Speaker 8:Just the Santa that is you basically.
Speaker 2:Traumatizing little kids. How about a nice football?
Speaker 9:I didn't vote, but I did submit him.
Speaker 1:Just shoot your eye out, kid I just I love how like I I love we have robot santa like the murder terminator on this, and he's still less mean christmas story santa I think the christmas story, santa.
Speaker 2:It captures like another sort of like yeah, like the perspective of a kid, of like being forced to sit on this random dude's lap wearing a costume and like just this kind of weird freaky exchange and they're just doing a job and they're trying to cycle these kids through as fast as possible and like in a Christmas story they like they exaggerate it to be, you know, more over the top and traumatic than it probably is typically, but it's like it's such an iconic scene in that movie.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, that was like my number two vote.
Speaker 5:There is something about the aesthetic of like a mall Santa with like the very specific beard and everything.
Speaker 2:Especially in that era.
Speaker 5:Yeah, like everyone just has, like that, one memory of like oh okay, this is not, this isn't real, but that's Santa, but I understand what's happening here and it's just like this is it's the uncanny valley of like this isn't the same thing.
Speaker 2:I don't know. And then when he pushes him down with his boot.
Speaker 1:It's interesting, that's he's a one-scene santa we talk about. Some of these santas are side characters. He's not. He's just like a cameo still iconic.
Speaker 6:It reminds me of when I worked at the mall. And of course, when the mall santa takes a break, he can't just like go to the food court. So I went to like the back hallway to go like take a bag of trash out and he's just like standing back there like smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 2:He's like what's up? Yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 6:Just some guy what's?
Speaker 1:going on. Man, I do, I do, at the very least, I do appreciate the mall Santa rep. You know, I do appreciate that. But with that being said, the vote is in. All nine votes are in. We have six votes going for David Harbour, so the violent knight Santa Claus will be moving on to the second round, and with that the first round is complete.
Speaker 5:How are you going to talk about what your rounds are called?
Speaker 4:I was just going to say that, thank you, they're great.
Speaker 8:They're so good.
Speaker 1:Yes, we start with the. We got to the first round, aka the Santa 16. Moving on to the eggnog eight and then the fa-la-la-la-la four, Nailed it Did I name the final round.
Speaker 5:Oh, you did, it's the Father Christmas finals.
Speaker 1:There we go. I knew it was good. Thank you, it's good, it's real good Well done, well done did it's the father.
Speaker 8:Christmas finals. There we go. I knew it was good.
Speaker 1:Thank you well done, but yes we're moving on to the egg, the eggnog eight um, and let me know if the poll continues to work, because obviously now I have to yeah create it yeah and then the next question showed up yep yeah, it is working.
Speaker 7:and for those of you keeping track at home seven and one chat GPT, so we're doing great.
Speaker 2:Nice, Very pro chat chat. Gpt podcast.
Speaker 4:Doing great. No, no, you're not.
Speaker 5:No, it'll help you get through college Game of game of game of game of gross does not condone.
Speaker 1:All these independent creators shilling.
Speaker 4:I will abstain from chat.
Speaker 2:GPT Makes really good D&D character artwork.
Speaker 8:I was going to say Eric is currently defrosting the North Pole with his amount of chat GPT usage.
Speaker 5:There's one polar bear on a very tiny ice block going. Eric, why this?
Speaker 3:is for kids, if they couldn't evolve to figure it out.
Speaker 2:Then they were just supposed to.
Speaker 7:That's right, give them Coca-Cola. Let me ask Chad GBT what would happen to the polar bears? Oh my god.
Speaker 3:Yeah, don't they have insurance through Coke?
Speaker 1:Insurance through.
Speaker 3:Coke.
Speaker 1:Didn't Coca-Cola do an?
Speaker 5:AI general yeah.
Speaker 6:Coca-Cola did an entire AI commercial. Yeah, yeah, it's terrible yeah, it's bad because all the coke ads were so good before I, I am asking, I don't know I asked specifically.
Speaker 7:Uh, my friends say that using chat GPT harms the polar bears. Is?
Speaker 3:this true.
Speaker 7:It says no, it does not. It does not, of course. Oh, that's a crazy response. No, using chat GPT does not directly harm polar bears.
Speaker 5:That's a wild statement. There's no.
Speaker 7:That is crazy. Oh, that's amazing, that's amazing.
Speaker 9:The actual operation of an AI uses a negligible amount of energy. However, the training of AI that'll eat up a lot of energy.
Speaker 7:We're learning a lot today, kids.
Speaker 9:But also let's talk about Bitcoin farming. The Christmas episode was weird. They pivoted. Let's talk about Bitcoin farming.
Speaker 1:Whoa Christmas episode was weird. They pivoted Talk about blockchain.
Speaker 3:Let's talk about HawkCoin.
Speaker 6:That's why.
Speaker 9:I don't host. If I'm given the mic, we go nowhere and everywhere Vibes.
Speaker 8:Co-host energy.
Speaker 1:Is that the title? Co-host energy? Oh, no.
Speaker 3:I can't believe we're already at the second round we're breezing through the only hour and a half in. What was that?
Speaker 1:hour and a half in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that sounds about right if you don't count the pre-show, okay, moving on. I have said moving on so many times alright everybody moving on, we're moving on.
Speaker 8:Andrew's got some real co-host energy tonight.
Speaker 9:Thank you, Andrew.
Speaker 2:I don't get to co-host that often.
Speaker 1:No, I mean I could appreciate a little mess around energy as a guest.
Speaker 7:So you know what I get it.
Speaker 1:But we have Doctor who going up the one seat, going up against Rise of the Guardians, the Russian mob boss, Santa. I'm not too familiar with either of these, but One sounds way cooler than the other. Yeah, I was going to say you have a very traditional Santa versus this old, old fashioned Santa.
Speaker 8:Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1:I guess it's a pure vibes. Pick the tattoos.
Speaker 5:Yeah, the tattoo, the tattoos are great um, you also have a much more, a much more fleshed out character in rise of the guardians, whereas literally in in doctor, who it's? It's that guy who shows up at it. Yeah, it's, it's santa who shows up in a christmas special. What do you want from us? Yeah, which is very doctor, who of?
Speaker 8:don't worry about it, it's fine, it's okay I do appreciate that, like his, like it's played by nick frost, which I don't know if there's a more fitting name for somebody playing a santa than nick frost on this list shocking, he hasn't played santa before this and from his other work?
Speaker 4:I don't know I was.
Speaker 1:I was on the same line, I think it was k, but emily just made me question my reality. No, she's good.
Speaker 4:I mean you talk about shauna the dead and hot fuzz all the time, so I'm like hot fuzz is a perfect movie, it's so good, it's so good no arguments here, okay
Speaker 9:you are once everybody's letterbox score.
Speaker 8:Yeah, phil.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's. With. That being said, this is a quick second round match. This is a clean sweep for oh, I typed Riot of the Guardians.
Speaker 5:That's okay.
Speaker 1:For the Rise of the Guardians.
Speaker 8:Universal, appreciate it.
Speaker 1:No one else is going to mention it.
Speaker 8:No, I decided to I didn't know this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that is that's the whole first round. We went without a single clean sweep and there it is in the second round. That's how it goes, folks. Moving on to the next one. We have the four versus 12. We have Rudolph. The next one. We have the four versus twelve. We have Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, skinny Angry, silver, wow.
Speaker 5:Thank you for clarifying.
Speaker 9:Do you want us to call it the typo in this point?
Speaker 4:I didn't describe it like that and I put him in there too, oh, that's what I.
Speaker 5:Well, if we want to compare, we can also talk about Tim Allen in the before fully succumbing to Z he's also skinny and angry.
Speaker 4:They are equally matched. Yeah, they find their Christmas spirit.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 6:He's basically Christmas, tony Stark. Minus like the war criminal, you know weapons, he's just selling regular toys.
Speaker 3:minus like the war criminal, you know weapons, he's just selling regular toys instead of toys of war, which one I feel like they get to war criminal weapons by like the Santa Claus 3.
Speaker 6:No, in the first Santa Claus there is the one they try to pitch the Santa with the tank. Remember, there is the yes. That is true, yeah, but that's like the 90s, that's where it's like we have attitude like 90s yeah it's like okay, okay also in the santa claus, like the whole, his whole santa's village is cool, like it's really high tech and you know the sleigh, bernard the elf, yeah, Bernard is a great character, Very good, which I don't know if they ever fixed this.
Speaker 6:But when they brought the Santa Claus back as a TV show, Bernard was not in it and people were not happy.
Speaker 4:I didn't watch it. I don't know if he ended up getting in the show. It was a TV show. Yeah, it's on Disney+ Disney+.
Speaker 1:I wasn't gonna, I'm not going to. Yeah, did you watch this film, by the way?
Speaker 6:What the show? Did you watch the show? No, I did not. Did anybody watch the show? No, I don't.
Speaker 1:The only thing I know about is Peyton Manning. What?
Speaker 8:That's the only thing I saw in the trailer.
Speaker 1:That was one good joke I saw in the trailer.
Speaker 3:And I was like you know what I think? That's good enough for me, that's a wrap. That's a wrap on the Santa Claus.
Speaker 5:And that's enough. Try not to watch anything, tim Allen has done after like 1997.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah, it's a tough bill to swallow.
Speaker 1:The vote is in. That is seven votes for Tim Allen's Santa Claus Moving on to the final four, the what, the, what Jake. The what four, the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, four. Thank you?
Speaker 5:I was confused, I was yeah.
Speaker 6:Why did you say it was such disdain? You named it.
Speaker 3:I know what I did, Phil. I know what I did myself.
Speaker 2:You knew this was going to happen.
Speaker 1:This is truly like a microcosm of Jay's life. He does something for a bit and then realizes oh, I have to keep doing the bit.
Speaker 5:And we go. We like that more and he goes oh.
Speaker 1:There's very DM energy yeah.
Speaker 2:You think he would have?
Speaker 3:learned.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, wait, this is so cool. Oh God, wait, I have to do it yeah that tracks. Moving on to the next matchup, we have the number two seed, Klaus, played by JK Simmons, going up against the number seven seed, Miracle on 34th Street, Santa, played by Edmund Nguyen. I don't want to choose. Can they both go? Nope.
Speaker 5:Jay said if you abstain, he's going to leave.
Speaker 1:That's.
Speaker 3:Santa Guys, we didn't talk about Claus.
Speaker 1:I'm close enough to drive to your house. He knows where you live, dude.
Speaker 7:We can't let the sacrifice of Bill Goldberg and Santa's sleigh go in vain, okay.
Speaker 3:Everyone's thinking that clearly yeah.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 3:What about Santa's sleigh?
Speaker 7:I know it's an opportunity but we can make it up here.
Speaker 1:Let Klaus in it's just tough because, like I said, they're both so wholesome, but in different ways.
Speaker 6:I mean, come on, like Klaus and I only watched this for the first time, I think, in 2022, and it like catapulted up my like favorite holiday movies and also just animated movies in general it's only been out for a few years too, and it's like it's, it's like cemented itself.
Speaker 5:It's hard to come up with a so good original holiday film in it, post 2000s.
Speaker 6:Really so like for them to pull that off and like the ending is so good it got me, yeah, plus it's JK Simmons he just gives a great performance, the most reserved JK Simmons you've ever heard.
Speaker 5:He's so good.
Speaker 6:Miracle on 34th Street, though Miracle on 34th Street is Miracle on 34th.
Speaker 1:Street, it's evergreen.
Speaker 9:Klaus is gorgeous and everything, but neither is the main character. But I do feel like Miracle on 34th Street affects the plot more and does more to actively help the main characters to grow, whereas Klaus is just like, yes, I'm an impressive man in the woods with all of these toys.
Speaker 2:The story kind of happens to him yeah, and it's beautiful and incredible and it's a wonderful film but in terms of like santa's, I have to give it to miracle on 34th street helps the main character grow and yeah, in class it's more about the postman like growing and becoming a decent human being and also saving the town like the whole town transforms and becomes awful, yeah, an actual decent place to live, as opposed to the nightmare it was before right, but but I will say it is.
Speaker 1:Um, it is great seeing like a santa origin story, like you said, phil, just like an original christmas because there's other obviously, like santa claus is coming to Town was the origin, but this is like a completely different spin on that which is really cool. I don't like, I don't want to pick, are we?
Speaker 5:waiting on Eli.
Speaker 1:I have news for you. Yes, we are waiting for Eli. I'm assuming you haven't voted.
Speaker 7:Oh gosh, it's probably not going to break the tie Eli.
Speaker 1:Okay, I voted. It's probably not gonna break the tie, eli. Okay, I voted. It might, though. Oh, and with that vote, for as much discussion as we had, that is an astounding eight to one yeah wow, yeah, I had a feeling that's such a good movie yeah, so good, we're gonna watch it tonight jay, is that?
Speaker 1:I remember you said that was your favorite christmas movie. Is that? Still, it's a hundred percent. A hundred percent, it's my favorite christmas movie. Yeah, no, klaus, is I mean like it's my favorite christmas movie and it's just like one of my favorite movies? So? Like it has to, by default. It has to be like my favorite Christmas movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, like nothing really really stacks up. Um, in my opinion, um, even like I don't know, like you have the, you have classics and things like and things like that, but like nothing has touched my heart the same way that Klaus does so, yeah, it's special.
Speaker 6:And again, for it to come out, for it to be recent, for it to be a newer movie is pretty crazy. Well, Klaus, like it touches on this, yeah definitely in the category of instant classic.
Speaker 2:It touches on the same tropes as a lot of the other Christmas movies and like Christmas stories, but it just does it so well and so like effort and just kind of nails everything that it's going for in a beautifully understated way too and funny. It has like a lot of, but not like not like marvel comedy like yes right, yeah again a kind of understated comedy.
Speaker 2:It's like you kind of have to be paying attention and like actively watching the movie to get the like, the jokes and the physical comedy and the things going back and forth between the characters.
Speaker 1:So I feel like I remember when we did a movie bracket, and we talked about klaus and nobody, nobody, had seen it yet yeah yeah, and, and now everybody has. And it makes me genuinely so happy.
Speaker 2:Is your heart growing three sizes?
Speaker 1:It is. I do need to see a doctor.
Speaker 9:But moving on, it's going to be on Lasix next year.
Speaker 1:Moving on to the final match of the Eggnog 8, we have Paul Giamatti from Fred Claus going up against David.
Speaker 8:Harbour from.
Speaker 1:Violent Knight. Wait, wait, so Emily remind me. So like Paul Giamatti is like a strung out overworked Santa, Is that his vibe?
Speaker 4:Yes, overworked, and then so Kevin Spacey is in it and he is like doing like reviews. Basically, yes, he's a bad person, no-transcript, real, because it's like she's like a bad mother-in-law to his wife and like she's like this weird, prefers the younger son to vince vaughn, who's the older son, and like I, I don't know, it's just um no, it's very grounded family dynamics. You're right there, that's yeah yeah, so it's like if santa claus was a real overworked guy.
Speaker 3:Basically, I don't know, take that with what you will wait, kate, how do you compare the two santas?
Speaker 1:or emily? Have you seen the two movies? Oh god, no, um, I don't like horror, scary movies.
Speaker 4:Um that's all I need to hear but um kate's seen both of them so yeah, how would you, how would you compare these two Santas? Well, we don't have to go, hotness Kate.
Speaker 5:Listen, the heart wants what it wants. You don't think, paul Giamatti, I was going?
Speaker 8:to say unfortunately.
Speaker 5:Paul Giamatti as Santa Claus specifically is not that, but that is not what I've been voting for this whole bracket, so I can't pivot now. That would be bonkers if I was like comparing all these Santas to who's the hottest that's next year.
Speaker 6:I'm like alright the claymation one which Santa can get it listen.
Speaker 5:Rudolph Santa is on this list not doing anything. Yukon Cornelius, let's talk, let's go, my God, but yeah. Truly. It's a new Netflix movie, Hot Frosty or whatever. I haven't watched it yet. I really want to.
Speaker 4:I don't know what's happening with it. Yes, with Lacey Chabert, Hot Frosty it looks wild, the one where they put the scarf on a snowman.
Speaker 6:Yes, yes, it's a truck tank with abs. Yes, okay, kate, I haven't voted. Hold on, you're not helping.
Speaker 5:I forgot.
Speaker 4:Compare the two. You've seen both of them.
Speaker 5:You've always been registered. Thank you for participating, okay.
Speaker 4:All right.
Speaker 1:Why are you making fun of my polling software?
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 1:I do the same thing whenever we record.
Speaker 4:I always say whatever the thank you for recording, thanks for being a great guest, that's it.
Speaker 5:You're welcome. Emily's like stop it.
Speaker 8:Co-host energy. That's not right.
Speaker 9:I say hi to Craig every time he comes up. Oh, my God.
Speaker 5:Can we get shirts that say big co-host energy?
Speaker 4:If you guys put it together, sure.
Speaker 8:We'll never get these shirts? No, we can't.
Speaker 1:See, this is called Schrodinger's co-host ideas.
Speaker 3:You know what we should do.
Speaker 8:I have an app.
Speaker 1:And the crazy thing is, if a co-host actually make a project that we talk about, a singularity will form and the universe will crash in on itself, the co-host will become the host.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly, by definition we can. Then we stop being co-hosts.
Speaker 8:Yes, exactly by definition, we can no longer be a co-host.
Speaker 5:Yes, we've achieved, sentience.
Speaker 1:I really do love the idea of y'all starting a podcast but never posting an episode, but it just exists like an art Because we don't know how to edit it.
Speaker 5:None of us know how to edit it.
Speaker 2:It's just a folder full of WAV files that never goes beyond that.
Speaker 5:Okay, so pull up all four of these and then hit play at the exact same time, and then that's our podcast.
Speaker 4:But then you have to download it as one file again, so there's another step to that.
Speaker 8:What do you mean? What?
Speaker 6:does that mean that's too much work. Nope, can't do that, that's too much work. Which one?
Speaker 3:of you is paying for.
Speaker 6:Buzzsprout.
Speaker 5:Got to find a host.
Speaker 3:Can't pay for the host. No, I'm already paying for it All right.
Speaker 1:The vote is in for David Harbour. What?
Speaker 8:are we voting on Ball G Amati. What are we talking about?
Speaker 1:Yeah, classic matchup. Sorry to the Stranger Things fans out there, but that is a five to four vote in favor of Paul Giamatti. Fred Claus moves on to the follow-up. I'm developing a fondness for this idea of an overworked strung out.
Speaker 4:You at least got gotta watch it once. You do need to watch this movie.
Speaker 1:It's very cute yeah, I love Paul Giamatti. I'm gonna watch this movie okay has anybody seen the holdovers I?
Speaker 7:know I mentioned that to Phil as a possible lead to the party because I heard it was fantastic.
Speaker 6:I wanna watch it so bad very good everybody.
Speaker 1:That is my distraction. That's my detour for the show. Go watch the holdovers. We'll talk about it, if anybody was curious.
Speaker 7:I know I didn't match my match, but I was still tracking.
Speaker 5:No one's waiting for this.
Speaker 7:Chat GPT sweep in this round.
Speaker 9:So we are currently 10-1.
Speaker 7:It just could not anticipate the hate for the polar express outside of that.
Speaker 2:It's been on top of it sounds like it can do what a human can do oh, also, I cannot confirm this, but two to three polar bears may have been harmed.
Speaker 7:In the use of just gotta say that disclosure, it could have also been all the diet coke they've been drinking.
Speaker 2:Who knows she's got to say that disclosure. It could have also been all the Diet Coke they've been drinking.
Speaker 6:Who knows the artificial sugar? What round are we in, Jay?
Speaker 8:It's the, it's the Fa-. La, la, la, la, la four yay fantastic and that's why we co-hosts keep getting invited back because we're delightful that one time you're like you know what he's.
Speaker 9:Alright, court jester privileges, which has just been Jay and my relationship since we were in like middle school, Like you know what?
Speaker 4:He's all right, court jester privileges, which has just been Jay and my relationship since we were in middle school. I want to hear that story someday, please. Lore, lore, lore, patreon.
Speaker 5:Yay, friend, lore this isn't lore this? Is just too much personal. Lore TMI, come on, where's the line? Irl lore, that's just my personal life, lore dump. We had a conversation.
Speaker 1:Again, this is a tough one, because you have the santa claus nick, uh uh, tim allen, who is very like it's very traditionally santa coded, and then you have the you know, the badass alt santa tattooed in russian. So I this again. This is a. This is a tough vibe pick, do I? You know, are we going for the more traditional route or the more?
Speaker 5:experimental I'm trying to make it less. Like which movie do I like more? And specific I'm trying to think about like specifically, the sat, like the version of santa, because I know like I feel like a lot of like.
Speaker 5:I feel like we're getting in the weeds on a lot of like. I like this movie better and a lot of it does have to like. It goes hand in hand in so much of like, so many of the aspects. But at this point I'm just like these are all good movies, I'm like OK. So how do I, how do I hone this in?
Speaker 9:Well, another thing about the Rise of the Guardians Santa is like, yeah, he's kind of like bad, it's all. Sorry, Emily. Alternative.
Speaker 4:I swore I used to do it.
Speaker 5:He was doing so good it's not our rule. We just swear all the time on ours.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not ours.
Speaker 9:You've just been calling it out, so I thought I think it was our rule.
Speaker 8:I think it was our rule originally. I think it was our rule originally.
Speaker 4:This was Jay's rule for the Christmas special ever since the beginning.
Speaker 2:On Novel Playing Field. I would edit out the swears, but Jay put in the doc from the very beginning that it's the.
Speaker 3:Christmas special. Don't swear, that was the joke.
Speaker 9:So, that being said, back on Alec Baldwin'santa is he does teach jack to like. Seek out his core, because santa's core is wonder. He sees the wonder and things. He's excited about life. He's excited about toys, he's excited about how he gets to like help these kids keep their sense of wonder. And so, as much as he is alternative dual wielding sabers tattooed santa. He is also you know, full of wonder and joy and you know, loves what he does.
Speaker 9:So you know, he's also quite holly jolly in the traditional sense tim allen took charlie to denny's so yeah, I was going to say kind of like Tim Allen.
Speaker 2:Grand slam.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, did Tim Allen do it?
Speaker 6:What was his last name, scott Calvin Calvin Calvin.
Speaker 1:SC and the last vote has just been cast, and I would expect nothing else in the third to last matchup that we're going to be discussing, but that is going to be Tim Allen moving on to the finals with a vote of five to four. Tim Allen sort of felt like perhaps the most famous or like I just feel, like so many people have seen, like he is the Santa Claus yeah, I mean, yeah, it's called the Santa.
Speaker 9:Claus, especially of our generation.
Speaker 1:I'm aware of the title of the movie, everybody I didn't list him because I knew someone else would.
Speaker 5:I was like, well, obviously he's on the list.
Speaker 1:So well, I think, the only other movie in this list. Well, there's two other movies where santa's the main character. You have violent night and santa claus is coming to town, unless I'm saying this, lay my mistake, it happened so long
Speaker 3:ago that we forgot about San Jose. We've all moved on.
Speaker 6:You know when you get to the Super Bowl, and then you're like, oh yeah, I forgot, the Pittsburgh Steelers were in the playoffs at one point at San Jose.
Speaker 1:Whatever third NFC West team or whatever Seahawks were in this, oh man or whatever.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, the.
Speaker 6:Seahawks were in this. Oh man, yeah, sorry, what the hell was that hold on a second wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Jay, you can't do stuff like that with so many co-hosts in the call it was so silent we all were looking at you you have a strange creature, that's just.
Speaker 7:You don't get to just move on. What do you mean? What's that?
Speaker 8:It was so perfectly quiet.
Speaker 1:It's my knee.
Speaker 7:I thought he brought out another mic and was petting it.
Speaker 8:I honestly, was so confused I thought it was a rock.
Speaker 9:He's practicing a self-soothing technique.
Speaker 5:Okay, Podcasting is hard, you guys.
Speaker 1:There's some dirt. I noticed on my knee.
Speaker 7:I don't know how it got there. I was perplexed by it.
Speaker 3:That was such a magical moment.
Speaker 1:The magical moment everybody was just silent and just instinctively looked at Jay's screen.
Speaker 6:You could have gotten away with it if we were mid-conversation.
Speaker 7:It took up like a quarter of the screen. What do you mean?
Speaker 1:There's no way we could have scripted that.
Speaker 3:There's no way we could have scripted that there's no video of this.
Speaker 6:It's just audio.
Speaker 8:Thank God.
Speaker 6:I'm going to start doing this Dirt on my knees. I'm going to start doing this in Riverside.
Speaker 5:There's got to be a better way.
Speaker 6:This is only our second year. This is.
Speaker 4:So step up, you're not newbies anymore.
Speaker 6:Riverside is a third year person.
Speaker 2:Another Santa, another pair of Santas.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we have another pair of Santas, a matchup, if you will, to go over. We have Klaus, played by JK Simmons, going up against Santa Claus fromus from fred claus paul giamatti.
Speaker 3:Uh, honestly, the surprise pick but I'm loving it so far.
Speaker 1:Cinderella story there no, no, don't apologize I love it.
Speaker 6:Yeah, I'm very excited, like after this, to watch, uh, between fred claus and violent night and rise of the guardians. Like I'm very excited after this to watch between Fred Claus and Violent Knight and Resident Guardians. I'm pretty excited.
Speaker 4:Don't hold it to high expectations, please.
Speaker 6:I don't want to hear it as a matter.
Speaker 1:I'm a Vince Vaughn guy, if it was not the best Christmas movie I've ever seen. Emily, I am going to be.
Speaker 6:I never said it was I like Vince Vaughn, I like his whole shtick. It's tough. This is harder.
Speaker 2:No, Eli, it's not.
Speaker 1:Don't pretend like it's tough.
Speaker 2:I voted before the whole knee thing Before knee gate.
Speaker 3:I agree. Where were you?
Speaker 1:Andrew, you have a real talent for bringing up shtick that I wanted to cut out.
Speaker 8:Yay, this is a family show.
Speaker 7:I swear talent for bringing up that I wanted to cut out.
Speaker 8:Yay.
Speaker 7:This is a family show.
Speaker 6:Let me close out this document Yo.
Speaker 3:No, I can swear, because I'm editing it.
Speaker 1:So I can take them out, but will you? Only I can make more work for me.
Speaker 3:Oh no.
Speaker 1:Jay is just going to replace all of Phil's audio tracks with Chad's GPT or AI-generated audio. I'll send you my note why yes, Jay, that was a great point. You are a wonderful host. Thank you, Phil.
Speaker 3:Nobody saw you wipe your knee just now.
Speaker 1:But the vote is in, folks. We've talked about these clauses a lot so far, so I don't think we need to hold our breath on this one. That is, eight votes for JK Simmons as Klaus against a single vote for Paul Giamatti to decide who goes to the Father Christmas finals. Heck of a run. Heck of a run, honestly gotta love those mid-majors.
Speaker 6:Didn't finish Documentary. The 30 for 30 is going to be fantastic.
Speaker 3:I remember when a 14 seed Paul.
Speaker 4:Giamatti Cinderella story.
Speaker 5:You know it was a dark horse, but one co-host believed in him it's the.
Speaker 2:Carol of the Bells by August Burns Red every year.
Speaker 1:I don't want to talk about that okay, man, I both both these santas have good like pretty solid matchup, yeah, yeah this is actually difficult yeah, it's like your childhood it's not the mall
Speaker 2:santa for metal, yeah yeah, I'm santa claus.
Speaker 5:What are you talking about?
Speaker 4:smell like bread and cheese yeah, I'm feeling.
Speaker 1:I'm feeling very good. I do think that this, this is the correct. Two santas I yeah, uh, I mean also also santa sleigh. I, I'm sorry. It's also another like, because I mean they both kind of start off as not Santas and then their arc is them becoming Santa, both externally and internally.
Speaker 4:Well, they're almost generational.
Speaker 3:You know, we'll have to check. This is when kids grow, because this is 2019, so we'll see.
Speaker 6:This is your your like. Og Santa, who hasn't voted yet? Bill.
Speaker 1:I keep saying that and then the last person votes. Is it Dylan? I think no, I voted already. That was me. That time I was legitimately thinking it was me.
Speaker 6:That time I was legitimately thinking pressure well you.
Speaker 1:I mean, these are both mine, these are both my Santas and a couple other people's Santas, they're also both mine yeah.
Speaker 6:Yeah. So I feel great, yeah, same yeah.
Speaker 3:No no.
Speaker 1:These are fantastic picks. The Santa Claus, I mean, is a bit more nostalgic at this point, but I mean, yeah, for me it's certainly.
Speaker 2:Claus. Claus is a modern classic.
Speaker 6:Wait, who gets?
Speaker 3:Eli Santa fan over there, and then they go up against.
Speaker 6:Eli's body pillow Santa.
Speaker 3:I would have voted for that one if it was in the running.
Speaker 5:And we did establish if Eli's dad was in the running he would have won.
Speaker 4:He would have swept yeah.
Speaker 1:My dad is giving whoever wins the reward.
Speaker 4:Amazing, fantastic.
Speaker 1:Which will be this dinner tray, perfect. Well, the vote is in, folks, and, to not much surprise, it is a five to four vote.
Speaker 3:Oh close.
Speaker 1:Very fitting for the final. I mean, I knew it was going to be close, but yeah, can we do a drumroll? Can we get everybody to do a? Can we spin?
Speaker 8:the wheel.
Speaker 3:No no.
Speaker 7:Never mind.
Speaker 8:Never mind Hang on.
Speaker 6:I regret everything. No sound effects. Oh, no drum roll. Hold on.
Speaker 1:Are we all doing it? The winner, no no drum roll.
Speaker 3:Okay, we're not.
Speaker 1:No wheel, no drum roll. Jay's gotten so much mileage out of that pen.
Speaker 2:You're going to have a lot of drum rolls to edit out across all these tracks after saying drum roll please, and then no drum roll.
Speaker 1:No, because then I can cut them together and actually make a drumroll, so it'll be fine.
Speaker 3:Movie magic.
Speaker 1:It's all fine. Yeah, Eli knows all about the magic of editing, obviously because he's such an expert audio editor.
Speaker 4:Tell us the results you can just do that right. James.
Speaker 8:Without further ado, Snap your fingers a couple of clicks. What could it possibly take? How hard could it be?
Speaker 1:The winner of the Santa Claus bracket is Klaus.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Wow, jay would be much more sad if it wasn't Klaus going into this. Yeah, no, it's a little bit on going into this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's a little bit on my face, but yes, no, that's a 5-4 vote for Klaus. Klaus is the best Santa according to the Super Bracket Bros Cinematic Universe. Well, deserved, which is obviously the top authority in such matters. I'll have to say, even if I did give Polar Express a 3.5 in Letterboxd, which I will be, I haven't seen anybody else do a bracket like this, so I feel like we are the authority.
Speaker 2:This is science.
Speaker 7:And ChatGPT.
Speaker 1:We had a robot pitch in. I mean yeah.
Speaker 9:State of the art. Technology helping us determine.
Speaker 8:Did ChatGPT get it right?
Speaker 7:Eric. So tale of the tape here. Chatgpt finished at 13-2. It got the Polar Express wrong in round one and it did incorrectly pick Tim Allen as the winner of the final round so yeah, yeah, uh, I did not know. Klaus went eight to one up until the finals each round, so that was very telling, that chat gpt was probably.
Speaker 1:Did you uh? Did you vote with chat gpt?
Speaker 7:I. I did against my better judgment, but I knew after klaus beat sanda slay it was a contender from the get-go.
Speaker 5:Should have known there was something there, something there, something about that movie A little something, something about that film yeah.
Speaker 6:Did anybody throw in Bad Santa as a suggestion? I'm not vouching for Bad Santa.
Speaker 5:I was so happy that no one did. Honestly I was kind of flat out.
Speaker 3:I've never actually seen it. I haven't either. It's not good.
Speaker 5:It's a nothing movie. I have no feelings about it.
Speaker 1:It's kind of a nasty movie, billy Bob.
Speaker 7:Thornton frightens me. Are there any other honorable mentions Santas?
Speaker 6:Yes, Annie Edison from Community.
Speaker 8:Yeah, Alison.
Speaker 2:Brie Shout out.
Speaker 6:You said you had. Oh yeah, Eric, only submitted Santa's.
Speaker 7:He had to go out of the first round. To the winner, though I mean again Pretty good.
Speaker 2:So you're basically a winner too.
Speaker 1:I did look to see if there was a.
Speaker 6:Santa in the Harold and Kumar Christmas special but I've never seen it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was also Googling Santas because at some point point I only had like seven santas to put into the bracket so I was doing some googling um and uh, a few came up, but I'd never heard of them. I was like I'm not gonna put in something that I have to end up defending um that I know nothing about um, which I've done.
Speaker 1:I've done just too many times on super bracket. So um, but um, yeah, that is your best santa bracket. I think next year what we should do is we should do a reverse santa bracket, where we decide who's the worst.
Speaker 3:So then, we can unequivocally oh, that's the bad Santas.
Speaker 8:The Santa from Santa's sleigh.
Speaker 7:Santa's sleigh.
Speaker 9:let's go my time has come, he's coming back. He's going to win something Everybody's got a year to watch it.
Speaker 1:Eric is going to lord over us all year and say that Santa's sleigh lost to the winner of this bracket, which makes it reasonable that it lost. But it's not true. It's not true.
Speaker 7:It feels pretty true to me. I don't like the way you're aggressively pointing that pen at us I have to hold the pen that was a joke for us.
Speaker 3:I'm like a standard blue office pen too. Like where'd you get?
Speaker 5:that the office, that he's in the office. He's in an office.
Speaker 1:Give me a pen for her, have you been?
Speaker 7:writing stuff down.
Speaker 6:He's got 149 more in a box, just to his left.
Speaker 8:It's $10. Jay, land this plane, land it, and somehow they're all out of ink, somehow none of them really work.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen this but my oh sorry, jay.
Speaker 1:Shut up, Bill. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5:I'm just curious if anyone watched Noelle.
Speaker 8:My daughter really loves that movie. I've never seen it though. Oh, it's real cute.
Speaker 4:Yes, it's cute With the ornament. No.
Speaker 3:On a Kendrick and Bill Hader.
Speaker 6:It's in Newer One, 2019.
Speaker 4:Other people. It's on Disney Plus. It's cute.
Speaker 6:You can go now, Nick.
Speaker 1:Thanks, phil, I appreciate your permission.
Speaker 3:Set us free.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for having tuned into the pure insanity that is the christmas special every single year. I know that, um, as we uh, the nine of us have discussed in the past and discussed it this year, this is a chance for us to hang out and goof around and and have a good time and do a funny bracket about a loose you know a Christmas related thing and and we love it. And if you've hung around this long, then I guess you loved it too, which is awesome, and we just we we appreciate you taking some time out of your holiday season or I guess maybe you're listening in July that's cool too, but if you are, I want to hear about it. If you were desperate, if you found any of our shows because you were looking for Best Santa, we want to hear about it.
Speaker 1:And then if you listen to any other episodes of any of our podcasts but thank you so much for tuning in to Super Bracket Bros, your friendly neighborhood gamers Game of Thrones and or the Wait For it podcast, because this is going to be on all our feeds. Don't worry, if you see any other ones, it's the same thing I was going to say find the hidden Easter egg.
Speaker 8:that's unique to each episode.
Speaker 3:Or each different podcast episode we have chat.
Speaker 8:GPT come up with a scavenger hunt.
Speaker 2:We have Pokemon specific to our version.
Speaker 9:Our co-host energy. He was so close.
Speaker 1:Do we have a way of ending these things? Do we have a message?
Speaker 2:We just say Merry Christmas, happy Holidays. We all say yeah.
Speaker 1:Or we can spin, no, we could no thank you so much for having joined us, on behalf of myself and all my co-hosts here.
Speaker 3:Happy Holidays, merry Holidays Happy.
Speaker 1:Holidays.
Speaker 3:Happy Holidays. Happy holidays, see you next time.
