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Late To The Party - Pretty Woman
This episode takes a closer look at Pretty Woman, reflecting on its cultural impact, performances, and emotional themes after 30 years. We dive into the dynamics of love and class while addressing the film's problematic aspects through a modern lens.
• Exploration of Pretty Woman's iconic narrative and characters
• Discussion of Julia Roberts and Richard Gere's performances
• Analysis of the themes of class disparity and romantic tropes
• Examination of supporting characters and their roles
• Consideration of critiques related to contemporary social values
• Summary of audience ratings and scores
Letterbox'd Synopsis: While on a business trip in Los Angeles, Edward Lewis, a millionaire entrepreneur who makes a living buying and breaking up companies, picks up a prostitute, Vivian, while asking for directions; after, Edward hires Vivian to stay with him for the weekend to accompany him to a few social events, and the two get closer only to discover there are significant hurdles to overcome as they try to bridge the gap between their very different worlds.
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Speaker 2:This is the Wait For it Podcast. Hey, everyone, welcome back to the Wait For it Podcast. I am your co-host, phil Barrera, aka Phil the Filipino.
Speaker 1:And I'm your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, and today, for this edition of Late to the Party, really excited to talk about Pretty Woman, a film that, yes, is over 30 years old, is iconic, and why haven't we watched it? We really couldn't tell you. But, phil, I'm glad that we sprung this up together, I sprung it on you and we're now talking about it here today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's probably the 90s rom-com next to well, you Got Mail probably came out like in the early 2000s, huh, so like maybe right around 2000. So it's like the rom-com. So what better way to start off February than with a classic? And yeah, it was a really random suggestion but one that I certainly welcomed, because my only familiarity really with Pretty Woman, of course being the song, but also there is that like a really funny segment in the office where they kind of recreate that with Dwight Schrute. So I knew the premise of the film.
Speaker 2:I've seen plenty of the iconic moments, like on social media, but never sat down and watched it. Like you said, eric, I mean why that never happened, who knows. I mean, growing up in the 90s, it's not like I ever would have told my parents, hey, can I go see Pretty Woman? What was this movie even rated? It was probably PG-13, huh, was that no, rated R? It is rated R, so it's not necessarily a movie I would have seen as a child and then, as I became an adult, I never really circled it until now. But very excited to get to this conversation and talk about how we felt about it and interested to see if anybody else, like from our audience, has seen it recently because of how it is aged, whether that be in a good way or a bad way, and I think all of that will come up here today.
Speaker 1:Definitely part of the conversation. Phil did not know. I've seen the movie, Should know this. Did not know it was rated R. What made this movie rated R? I know it was a different time, but very, very curious.
Speaker 1:Something we will definitely get into and this is my spot to let you guys know, because this movie came out in 1990, this is a movie we are going to talk about extremely freely. So if you have not watched pretty woman, I am hoping that both of us will have pretty high praise. But I can tell you it's at least a recommendation for me and I'm excited to talk about it here. So go, check that out, come back and then listen to the rest of this episode, because I definitely think some of this charm that resonates over all of these years is not exactly knowing where the story is going. It's not an overcomplicated story or plot and I think the charisma from the character, specifically Julia Roberts, really carries the film's momentum forward. We're going to get into all of that here today, but again, that is your warning we are going to speak. Spoilers for Pretty Woman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can check it out on Max. So if you are subscribed there, that's where you can find it. If you want to find any other episodes of the way for a podcast or our social media pages, make sure you stick around to the very end of the episode. We will go over all of that in a little bit. But let's get to the letterboxd synopsis of pretty woman, released in 1990, directed by gary marshall, starring richard year and julia rober.
Speaker 2:While on a business trip in Los Angeles, edward Lewis, a millionaire entrepreneur who makes a living buying and breaking up companies, picks up a prostitute, vivian, while asking for directions. After Edward hires Vivian to stay with him for the weekend to accompany him to a few social events, and the two get closer, only to discover there are significant hurdles to overcome as they try to bridge the gap between their very different worlds. So, yes, let's start with those leads there. Eric, you know Richard Gere, 90s heartthrob, right? You can certainly understand why he would be very, very popular around this time. And Julia Roberts, america's Sweetheart, right?
Speaker 2:Erin Brockovich, pretty woman. She is iconic and I know a lot of people regard this as one of her best performances. Certainly, see why Vivian is very lovable, even if there are issues with her character Again now, 35 years later. That's why it's going to be very interesting to talk about this movie because I think a lot of people, if they were to watch it now, could get bogged down in a lot of the issues socially when it comes to this film. But when you do just kind of peel it back and watch it from the lens of in that time period not giving it any excuses, but just watch the performances and watch how charming everybody are I really find it hard to believe that anybody would really have a bad time watching Pretty Woman, no matter when it is.
Speaker 1:No, I agree. I have been seeing clips of this on TikTok, which is what led me to ask you do you want to watch it? And I'm going to be honest with you, phil, just from the clips I was seeing, I was like, oh, I think I might really enjoy this movie. And I think, despite the questionable premise obviously it's a millionaire and a hooker Like it's such a weird power dynamic and all of those things Like there's so many things right that you can get into. But the characters and the performances that are portrayed of those characters, I think is what really makes this very unique and very iconic.
Speaker 1:I can understand why people love this movie and why it is really, I wouldn't say spawned the genre of you know, rom-coms, necessarily, but it is absolutely up there when people bring them up and maybe not so much into the comedicness, like it is funny for the romance though it just, I don't know, it just works and that is a testament to both Richard Gere and specifically Julia Roberts. I did not indulge myself into prime Julia Roberts. I always knew she was good. In the same way, a Meryl Streep is very fantastic, but I don't watch Meryl Streep movies. Julia Roberts was kind of in that same vein and that might have to change, because prime Julia Roberts is something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, another icon where you know adults of that time, of course, idolized and sought after. You know their very own, julia Roberts, and you can certainly see why. I mean this is an iconic look. It's got the iconic scenes you know, big. What is it? Big mistake, huge, like that's an iconic line, iconic presentation of a character as well and, yeah, she certainly carries as good as Richard Gere is. I mean we are three or four decisions away from American Psycho, so like. So it's really great that Julia Roberts is here, because if you change the music to this a little bit totally different movie but great, great choice of obviously the Pretty Woman song, but the king of wishful thinking, can we talk about how amazing that song is? So when it popped up I was like, yeah, we are cooking now.
Speaker 1:Oh, dude, that it must have been love, I think one of the things that adds to the aura of this film. And again you hear, it's a really good movie, but you don't know what to expect, phil. The soundtrack gave me the same soft landing of enjoying the time that this movie was based. In the same way we felt with Top Gun the original Top Gun and I very much not nearly as funny as some of the music in Top Gun Great balls of fire but I will say that the music here was a nice addition to the atmosphere of how this was filmed.
Speaker 1:The way the movie is shot, I mean it's got that grungy 1990s like literally filmography that you can expect from a director like Gary Marshall, who also did films like the Princess Diary. So that should kind of let you know several people from the Princess Diaries making an appearance here so you can kind of see the connection. But I I definitely really liked what this movie was all about and I think it's a product of its era and that's such a compliment on my end yeah, I don't think, other than princess diaries, of course, which is a classic.
Speaker 2:I don't think this is a filmography we're gonna go down because, eric, there are two movies on here that you absolutely, two styles of movies that you absolutely hate, and Valentine's Day and New Year's Eve no yeah. Runaway Bride. They also reconnected and I bet I guarantee you they're like oh, it's been nine years. People love Pretty Woman. Let's just bring those two back and we'll cook. And that does not have a very good.
Speaker 1:Letterboxd score 2.9.
Speaker 2:It's not terrible, but it's not good.
Speaker 1:He also did Mother's Day. Mother's Day is another one. Listen his last three films, I believe, as a director did not go well.
Speaker 2:Jason Sudeikis.
Speaker 1:But that kind of strengthens my argument about a product of its era because, like, making a movie like that today does not work. It does not work and I think understanding the time frame that it came, the music, help kind of reinforce that. It just works. That's kind of again going to be my overall statement. Like I understand, there are a lot of things watching back for the first time, working against this film. Those things just didn't matter at the end of the day. That being said, Phil, there are fans of Runaway Bride. I've had people recommend that to me before. No interest in seeing it.
Speaker 2:but I didn't know, he directed Overboard.
Speaker 1:I didn't either.
Speaker 2:That's another problematic movie, but still, I mean, when you strip it down it's pretty fun, goldie. Hawn, Kurt Russell, come on.
Speaker 1:Pretty fun, I think again when we try to dissect it just works and like what exactly that is Julia Roberts infectious, right. I mean again I'm going to be gushing about her the whole episode, as we should. But Richard Gere is like a creep in the most effective and romantic way possible, like it's absolutely, absolutely effective. He's got that undeniable charm.
Speaker 2:This isn't about Richard Gere, my face. I just want to say rest in peace to Gary Marshall, because he passed away in 2016.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:We're not trying to speak ill of Gary Marshall. We just spent like five minutes shitting on his filmography and then I saw off to the side on Letterboxd RIP.
Speaker 1:You know it's unfortunate. We love Pretty Woman, gary we love. Pretty Woman. We're going to talk about how much we love Pretty.
Speaker 2:Woman Anyway.
Speaker 1:Richard Gere, richard.
Speaker 2:Gere.
Speaker 1:Creep.
Speaker 1:Richard Gere is an effective creep and, yes, being a millionaire picking up a hooker and like the premise itself is dirty Right.
Speaker 1:But there are layers underneath that character and if there is a critique about this film I know we talk about likes and then critiques after I don't really have a lot of critiques. I think you might have more than I do. One of my main critiques is that I wish we kind of peeled back the layers of his character a little bit more to get some of the buy-in, for, you know, decisions that are made, things that are said. But I do think the layers are there and I think this may be a more complex character than just I'm rich, I have money, and I think they tried to show that on screen. Whether or not that was always effective is definitely up for debate, but I think that's what added to Richard Gere's charm. So, as much as I think Julia Roberts is the clear star and deserves all the flowers for the success of this movie because she drives the film every single time she is on screen, richard Gere, I think, is a great supporting cast member there to really lift her up as that 1A, 1b in this romantic comedy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I definitely have exactly what you were talking about in terms of some decisions I wish they had made differently when it came to Edward. So we'll talk about that. Terms of some decisions I wish they had made differently when it came to Edward, so we'll talk about that in a moment. I do want to make sure that we highlight Mr Thompson, of course, the manager of the hotel played by Hector Elizondo man. What a just watching their relationship kind of build over the course of the film and seeing how proud he was and how he also essentially acts as the liaison between the course of the film and seeing how proud he was and how he also essentially acts as the liaison between the two of them. Right, he's basically the matchmaker does a fantastic job. It's a really really kind of sweet um side story to see how kind of the hotel staff starts accepting her and opening up to her when at first they like really looked at her and discuss now again how we got there a little icky, but still it's just a very feel-good moment. So I wanted to make sure that we pointed him out.
Speaker 2:Um, I feel bad for jason alexander because, like in every 90s and 2000s film, he's just the grossest person and it's we talked about. We talked about being typecast with a guest that we have at the end of the month. Right, that's just Jason Alexander's face and build. That's just who he was. Unfortunately, even though he's really good in these roles, it's just he just plays them a little bit too well. You're like man. That's unfortunate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean again played his character. Well, that's ultimately what happened here. But you know, again you mentioned the big ones, but everyone else that kind of had a little part to play here and there. Again, they did. They did very well, very well. There's not much of a supporting cast here, in the sense that again this movie is driven by our two lead characters and everyone else just kind of fits a very small but specific role to play in the story.
Speaker 1:And, phil, the story again is not complicated in any way. It's about these two spending basically a week together and how that turns from basically a mistake to you know, love. Right, that's, that's what you're signing up for here with this film. And while while there are some things here and there that, um, you know you can nitpick and I think we'll probably maybe switch to that here for specifics just a really, really good film. That that, I think, deserves the hype that comes around it. So, phil, I'll kind of throw it to you because I think I'll fill in a lot of smaller nitpicks as we go through yours. What were some of those decisions and things that you were kind of alluding to, that you wish the movie or the characters had done a little differently?
Speaker 2:Yeah, to circle back to Edward, like you said, you know there is a discussion when he's talking to her about why weren't you there when your dad passed away? You know, why hadn't you spoken in 14 years, like? If you explore that, then you have a little bit more of a understanding of why he goes back on his decision with the Morses right, with Mr Morse, because even though he makes that decision, I think the argument can be made. You still don't really, I don't really know if he's really changed. I think that he's still very much entrenched in his specific lifestyle and I think there definitely is change for sure. But again, we didn't spend enough time there to feel that that was that decision was warranted, as good as it feels at the end, and we're happy he has done that Again, maybe because the movie's already over two hours long.
Speaker 2:So I don't know that you commit any more time, especially when it comes to a romantic comedy, to over two hours, I think is probably your limit. So what do you adjust in terms of trying to make that character a little bit more fleshed out, other than, like you you said, he's got money and he's able to make these grand gestures. So I think there was an opportunity to make edward a more fleshed out character, but again in 1990, no one cares about that. These are things we want now. If they were to make a pretty woman now, which god? Please don't remake pretty woman. We're very forward thinking and progressive podcast. Don't make a woke crap of pretty woman movie for the love. We don't want it. We have a nora and we love a nora, and that already has its issues as well.
Speaker 2:So please also fantastic, also excellent film excellent film we're really we're're really big fan of hooker films. So, yeah, so again, 30 years ago, no one cared about that. They just want to know that someone's going to save her and also, in a little bit of a twist, you know, in terms of movies, at that time, she saves him quote unquote as well. So that's something that I'd like to see now, but again, 35 years ago, nobody was worried about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's completely fair. This is where having, like a family member show up for like 10 minutes would have helped and like, given that other side that he's like not showing, if you wanted to reveal it in that way, that's such a traditional rom-com thing to happen. They end up at his parents' house, they end up in the vicinity of the family. That's how typical rom-coms work. In this situation, I can easily see a scene being added here, not necessarily 15, 20, 30 minutes more of screen time to flesh that out. And that's where the gripes are a little bit smaller.
Speaker 1:Again, I would have liked to see a little bit more towards the build of that ending. I could see people not liking that ending, essentially being the you know knight in shining armor play on things. But again, I just think these are two very flawed people. You know, at one point he's like very aggressively uh, I might add says you know we're very similar. We both screw people for money, which first off fucked up thing to say super fucked up, but it did actually fit. Like the actual comparisons of these are two flawed characters that have stumbled upon each other, that almost fill each other's needs, and that that's essentially, as a flawed person, what sometimes you tend to do.
Speaker 1:And I don't know, you know, maybe I was looking too deep into the movie for what it was, but those types of connections I thought were really, really crucial to me buying into what the story was, as far-fetched as it was. So, yeah, that's really my only main gripes with the film. I don't have too much and again, I hate to just summarize my feelings as this is one of my favorite performances by an actress, but yeah, julia Roberts is the powerhouse that I would recommend you see this movie for. I mean it just again cannot stress that enough how much I enjoyed that performance and I think that'll be reflected in my score.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's. She is excellent, so definitely worth that time there. Other things again that are issues in 2025 that are not back then. You know, obviously it's a very materialistic movie. It's not the best representation of sex work. There is a little bit of a I'm better than these other sex workers type of thing with Vivian. But, again, if you're going to watch it through 2020, 2025 lens, then you might be more critical of this movie than it deserves to be.
Speaker 2:You know, so were mistakes made back then that could have been changed Absolutely. So many of the Eric, how many of these movies have we watched now that we're like, hmm, I can do that now, but it didn't necessarily attract from us having a really good time. So, yeah, I think a lot of those things that people have issues with that were, you know, brought up on Letterboxd or on YouTube are valid. But also all we can really do now is kind of look at, hey, what worked in Pretty Woman and what could be adjusted for things going forward, you know. So I think a lot of people to kind of pivot to Anora because we haven't really talked openly on. We talked, obviously in our Letterboxd review, like a lot of people were talking about.
Speaker 2:One of complaints was we don't really know anything about her, about a nora's like what does she want out of life, you know what? What are her goals and ambitions? And I and I like totally disagree with that, because her goals are ambitious and ambitions are kind of like what got her into this lifestyle? Like it's very surface level and that shows in the like devastating climax of that movie, right? So like I think that when it comes to when movies about this type of work and this type of lifestyle are really tricky because it's not, there's not really one base storyline you can follow for all of them, right, cause we don't, we don't really have any idea, you know.
Speaker 1:I agree. I think some things are open to interpretation and, again, depending on your interpretation and your personal feelings, those things can absolutely make you love or hate a movie more. And that's why when we get to things like scores, phil, again, before we get to our scores, I think it'll be nice to see what the consensus is across. You know Rot and letterbox, but I think that will be prevalent in anyone's scores that determination of. Is this something that I can relate with? How did I interpret what the film was giving me? I think this is a good example of that, because on the surface it's pretty cut and dry, but again, I felt like I was. I was identifying things on a deeper level that I resonated with or I connected with and I understood, and again, all of that, delivered with great performances that I found engaging, really, really helped me. You know, put the, put the dots together and you know line up to a score that I felt comfortable with.
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure. So let's transition into that here and see what the consensus is. When it comes to scores on IMDb, it does have a 7.1. So, again, imdb seems to be like the harshest out of everybody, which is really interesting in terms of just like movie scores in general a 64% tomato meter score on Rotten Tomatoes and a 68% popcorn meter user score. So again wondering how much of that is you know, visiting the film in a more with a more recent viewpoint, like some of these reviews I see are from 2023, 2022, you know. So that, of course, is going to affect it. And then, over on Letterboxd, it is currently sporting an average of 3.7. Really really solid. I ultimately ended up, eric, giving this a 4 out of 5. Really really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:In terms of rom-coms, it is certainly up there in terms of something that, in terms of you know, all the rom-coms, other rom-coms we've watched on this, but also just romantic comedies in general. Julia Roberts, like we already mentioned, is a complete powerhouse. Richard Gere is creepy, but again, we talked about this with our guests at the end of the month. That was just kind of like the archetype for the male lead in a rom-com in the 90s. He was just kind of a creep that didn't go away, and he was either just really rich or like really artistic right, that was the thing. They were either really creative or really rich or like really artistic right, that was the thing. They were either really creative or really rich. That was the whole thing. So this worked for me. Would it work now? No, but as far as like how it made me feel, I had a really good time with a lot of the relationships and, honestly again, those relationships between Vivian and some of those workers in the hotel really, really enjoyed. So yeah, four to five on my end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not a bad score. I figured it was going to be positive at the very least, so maybe even higher than I thought you would give the film. Phil, I don't know if you've looked at my Letterboxd score or its placement on the late to the party list that I have there. I gave Pretty Woman a four and a half. I was intoxicated by the performances in this film. I would absolutely watch this again. I would absolutely put this on for somebody who said they had never seen it before and I would go out of my way to recommend it.
Speaker 1:I don't think this movie's for everyone and, again, the problems absolutely exist. If anything, that's what stops this from being a five, because there absolutely are issues present, both in how I would have done the storytelling if I was in their shoes uh, in the director's shoes and also looking back. There are a couple of things that don't age exceptionally well. But, yeah, I like this movie. No, I love this movie. I love this movie quite a bit and, phil, as far as where it ranks in my list, um, it's number three.
Speaker 2:I've only given three things a four and a half on late to the party.
Speaker 1:I understand it is between my top five are currently I'll just read those off is Chernobyl, interstellar, pretty woman, paddington 2, top gun maverick.
Speaker 2:So do with that what you will well, I mean it's still ranked very high on my list. I mean we've done 32 of these. I think 33 because there's a show on here that's not in, maybe not in letterbox, but it's 13 for me. So it's right behind. It's actually between two indiana jones movies, so indiana jones and the last crusade, which is also a four, and then temple Doom, which I have at a three and a half. So I mean that's really good company. It's right there with those two Indiana Jones films Also, like the whale and Mitchell's versus the machines in the same row. So, yeah, still high for me. And remember, I've got, you know, movies like Goodfellas and Big Sick and Klaus in my top six. So a little bit of a difference there. But yeah, definitely enjoyed it and certainly understand why it kind of sits on, uh, the mountaintop of some of the uh, best romantic comedies, although I will say this vanity fair article from 2023, it's not on here and they did a top 42 and it's not on this list.
Speaker 1:No, that's uh, that's an actual crime and and which is interesting, I'll name some movies. Phil's, that's actually a great segue, which is interesting. I'll name some movies, phil, that's actually a great segue. We will do our More Like this, which I have taken the feedback since the last episode, and I am now using both IMDb and Letterboxd recommendations for More Like this or similar films. Phil, I'm going to name a couple that I know for sure you have seen.
Speaker 1:Similar films, phil, I'm gonna name a couple that I know for sure you have seen, though I'm aware this might be a genre I've seen more than you like. I've definitely watched a lot of these when I was younger. Rom-coms, rom-coms were one of those things that was always on and I just, like you know, whenever you flip on the channel to tnt or tbs or some shit like that, yeah, that's what would be on, and I would watch like 70 to 80 of it, if not the whole thing. So, that being said, I've got a couple in mind that I'm I'm pretty sure you've seen, but just let me know if you haven't. So, starting off from imdb, would you rather watch pretty woman or how to Lose a Guy in 10 Days? Yeah, this is going to get hard.
Speaker 2:I love how to Lose a Guy. I got to go with how to Lose a Guy in 10 Days. I love Matthew McConaughey and Kate Hudson. It's crazy, so I got to go with that yeah.
Speaker 1:Would you rather watch Pretty Woman or 10 Things I Hate About you? Pretty Woman, okay. Would you rather watch Pretty?
Speaker 2:Woman or 13 Going on 30? 13.
Speaker 1:Going on 30. That's a fun movie.
Speaker 2:Wow, shocker. It's a fun film. Would you rather watch Pretty Woman or the Wedding Planner? I put another, matthew McConaughey, yeah, no, j-lo, nothing, j-lo, anything with J-Lo in it, just don't ask me.
Speaker 1:So Maiden Madden had in here, nope, nope.
Speaker 2:She just put out the same movie for eight years and then did Atlas.
Speaker 1:So no, j-lo Tough Tough than did Atlas. So no, j-lo Tough tough. Would you rather watch Pretty Woman or the Devil Wears?
Speaker 2:Prada Devil Wears Prada. I know Nine times out of ten Devil Wears Prada. It's one of my God. I love that movie. I can't.
Speaker 1:Probably going to watch it. That's your Pretty Woman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my God, I love the Devil Wears Prada gonna watch it. That's your pretty woman. Yeah, oh my god, I love the devil's product I haven't watched it in a little bit.
Speaker 1:I should watch it soon. Would you rather watch? Would you rather watch pretty woman or the notebook?
Speaker 2:pretty woman. I won't sob if I watch a notebook's kind of messed up too, but I think pretty woman would you rather watch pretty woman?
Speaker 1:or you've Got Mail.
Speaker 2:Meg Ryan versus Julia Roberts is a pretty crazy. I'm going to go. You've Got Mail because Tom Hanks over Richard Gere for sure I love Tom Hanks, yeah In that.
Speaker 1:So he's just an asshole Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, no, for sure, that also did come out in 99. So yeah, that was the AOL days, yep.
Speaker 1:Would you rather watch?
Speaker 2:pretty woman or hitch hitch. Yeah, we pretty woman's a better movie, but I we love hitch we love hitch a little bit too much we love hitch, uh, even prime eva mendez and will smith and then the good version of kevin james. It's got like everything, it's maybe, maybe one.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've seen this and I'm going to throw a couple other honorable mentions after this. Would you rather watch Pretty Woman or Crazy Stupid Love? I haven't seen Crazy Stupid Love. Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, were we going to do that.
Speaker 1:No, that's amazing. I'm going to put that on the list and we're going to watch it. Crazy, stupid Love which one's Crazy Stupid Love With Steve Carell. Oh yeah, no, no, no, I've seen Crazy Stupid Love. Yeah, I was like, okay, crazy Stupid.
Speaker 2:Love. Yeah, no, it's Crazy, stupid Love. I've given that a four and a half on Letterboxd, so yeah, I need to.
Speaker 1:Honorable mentions. That was around the cusp of movies I wasn't sure you had seen or not. Honorable mentions Since we're talking about movies that you know on that list of variety, that didn't make the cut Again, there's so many of these types of films, some of them were. I never watched Notting Hill, another Julia Roberts film, kate and Leopold, with Hugh Jackman and Meg. Ryan the Holiday. Never seen the Holiday.
Speaker 2:Never seen the Holiday. Isn't the Holiday? Another one of those ensemble movies.
Speaker 1:Yeah with Jude Law, cameron Diaz.
Speaker 2:Oh, love Actually is what we were talking about watching, right, love Actually is the other one that we almost did this month.
Speaker 1:There was also. I wanted to ask you this have you seen when Harry Met Sally?
Speaker 2:I have not.
Speaker 1:That's Hugh Grant. Harry met sally. I have not. That's uh hugh. Hugh grant. No, that is um. That is meg ryan and uh billy. It's right there. God damn it one second. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Billy crystal oh okay, no, I'm insane.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna put that on our list because that is something that someone here, if you're listening, is going to give a shit for, I'm sure, but that is top tier. No, Wedding Crashers actually did not pop up on this list.
Speaker 2:I'm on the Letterboxd list.
Speaker 1:There was what Women Want with Mel Gibson, where he could read people's minds with.
Speaker 2:Helen Hunt Creepy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, these are the type of rom-coms I've watched. I've seen the Ugly Truth with Gerard Butler. And what's her name? Catherine Heigl, we're going to start getting into that territory.
Speaker 2:Speaking of Catherine Heigl yeah knocked up 51st.
Speaker 1:Dates oh, Upgraded is on here.
Speaker 2:I only know that you've seen that it's alright is on here. I only know that you've seen that. Yeah, it's all right. It's bad, she's good. I forget the name of the lead, but she's fine, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I think I've seen Seedless in Seattle. I'm pretty sure I have Failure to Launch another Matthew McConaughey film, oh Sweet Home Alabama, with Reese Witherspoon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, reese Witherspoon, yeah that's a good one.
Speaker 1:I'm movie slaps. Yeah, that's about it. Yeah, that's about it. And Nora's at the bottom of this list, crazy, crazy. I don't know how that wouldn't be Nora's not really a rom-com.
Speaker 2:Pretty similar though I think it's like a romantic drama.
Speaker 1:Pretty Woman was really hilarious though we didn't really talk about it at all. Pretty Woman was really an r rating for what there's a titty like for a second is there?
Speaker 2:yeah, and then there's one fuck. So I guarantee it's probably because of the subject matter. Again like 1990, like it was such a taboo thing. Like sex work now is much more obviously accepted. Obviously a nora 100. Understand why that's rated r, but like maybe back in that time.
Speaker 1:No, it's definitely for the language. Yeah, fuck, is said.
Speaker 2:about four times it says Really, that's what the parents guide says so just profanity is moderate, though. I only remember one and I watched it today yeah, but it is also strange that he just tells everybody in the lobby to leave so he can bang Julia Roberts in the hotel lobby on the piano Listen that's crazy work.
Speaker 1:That is pretty crazy, but also Also yeah.
Speaker 2:That's an expensive piano, man. Oh, it does, say someone has lingerie.
Speaker 1:You can see a nipple through. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, okay, yeah, that's fine. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, okay, yeah, no, that's fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you didn't watch anyone. But you right, you didn't watch that Glenn Powell one, the one with Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, I haven't yet. That's still on my list of Glenn Powell movies to watch. No, yeah, I know you were really high on it though, but yeah, that's our episode. Guys, we're actually on the episode. It's like we're in the Patreon post. Yeah, we're still here. Chat it up. Sorry, we'll Patreon, that's yours. All I know about you guys in a minute, but yeah, that's all I really had.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all I know is that Richard Gere is a businessman, probably has a lot higher standards in real life. Don't do this. Don't don't do this don't crash out.
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