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International Feature: I'm Still Here

We return to international cinema with 2024's Oscar winner for Best International Film, "I'm Still Here," a powerful true story about Brazil's military dictatorship and one family's devastating experience.

• Based on the true story of Eunice Paiva, whose husband disappeared during Brazil's military dictatorship in 1971
• Features an extraordinary performance from Fernanda Torres that captures the quiet strength of a mother protecting her children while seeking answers
• Set against the backdrop of Rio's beaches, the film contrasts the family's idyllic lifestyle with the ever-present military threat
• Director Walter Salles uses authentic period filmmaking techniques including Super 8 footage to create an immersive historical experience
• Portrays the difficult reality of living under authoritarian rule with subtle tension and emotional restraint
• Shows how Eunice transformed her personal tragedy into purpose by becoming a lawyer and human rights advocate
• Received universal critical acclaim with a 97% rating on Rotten Tomatoes from both critics and audiences

Letterbox'd Synopsis: In 1971, military dictatorship in Brazil reaches its height. The Paiva family — Rubens, Eunice, and their five children — live in a beachside house in Rio, open to all their friends. One day, Rubens is taken for questioning and does not return.

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Speaker 1:

Mr Eric Almighty and Phil the Filipino.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they've got you covered, and all you gotta do is wait for it. This is the Wait For it Podcast. Hey, everyone, welcome back to the Wait For it Podcast. I'm your co-host, phil Barrera, aka Phil the Filipino.

Speaker 1:

And I'm your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, and for this edition of International Feature, we are going back to last year to talk about the best international film and the one that won an Oscar in 2024. And that movie is. I'm Still here.

Speaker 2:

And thank goodness it won that award. If you do not remember the chaos that was the Emilia Perez debacle, if you want to hear our thoughts on that film, you can go back into the podcast and listen to that one. But we are going to be talking about a much better film here today. Like you said, eric, with 2024's I'm Still here, directed by Walter Salas. I should have looked that up ahead of time, but here we are, we're recording and it's it's happening, as I should have looked that up ahead of time, but here we are, we're recording and it's happening. But yeah, eric, obviously very, very heavy subject matter when it comes to I'm Still here and I actually I went into it relatively blind. I knew that it was taking on a very, very serious subject as well as a true story, but didn't really know, like, the true depth or the backstory of what went into it until I actually sat down and started watching it and also doing a little bit of research. So we're going to talk about that here today. If you want to know where you can find the rest of our content, as well as follow us on social media and get some additional perks perhaps, then make sure you stick around to the very end of the episode and we will go over all of that, but let's get into it here, eric, the synopsis of the film.

Speaker 2:

In 1971, military dictatorship in Brazil reaches its height.

Speaker 2:

The Paiva family Rubens, eunice and their five children live in a beachside house in Rio, open to all their friends. One day, rubens is taken for questioning and does not return. So, once again, this is based off of a true story of Eunice Paiva and played by we'll start here just the absolute force that is Fernanda Torres. She came away with quite a few awards and a ton of recognition for this performance and I just want to start right there because she is outstanding in this and a lot of dramatic roles, whether it be fiction or nonfiction. A lot of people find value in those roles, I think for the very loud dramatic moments where you know there's a lot of. You can see a lot of pain and suffering, but also hear a lot of pain and suffering within those characters, and I think what makes Eunice, obviously being a in real life, a powerhouse of her own, what makes this performance so memorable, is her suffering in silence, but also her taking action in silence, and I was really happy that we finally got to see this performance from Fernanda Torres 100%.

Speaker 1:

That's really the reason, phil, when you brought this up, that I was even interested in seeing it because I had seen a couple of clips here and there and I was like man, she's, she's good, she's good. I also wanted to know did Zoe Saldana steal an award from her Spoiler alert? She did. She did as much as as we love her as an actress. Uh, not in that movie, not in that movie, but I didn't know anything about this movie, phil, going into it.

Speaker 1:

As far as the topic, I could kind of guess, based off the trailer, you know what we were dealing with. But, again, understanding that this was like a true story and the real backstory behind it, it's all driven through Fernando Torres's performance, and I mean just a powerhouse, absolute powerhouse. That is one of my favorite performances of a film that I saw last year and is probably going to be one of our biggest talking points. In the spoiler free section, like this movie did come out last year, we'll probably open up a spoiler spot at the end. Although, phil, this movie I don't want to say it's straightforward, but I mean it kind of is Once you hear that synopsis, you kind of have an idea of where this is going.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's also, you know, a true story. So if you want, you can Google Eunice Paiva and figure out what happens and how we got here. In this film, I will say one of the things that I really, really enjoyed is how much time they spent just kind of getting to know this family and in the beginning, again knowing like a little bit about what this was about, I was kind of like confused as to where is this all tie in? What is going to be the tipping point of this film, where we get into what the actual issue is, and once that did happen, I had a better understanding of oh, that's why we spent so much time getting to know these kids, getting to know, getting to spend so much time with their relationships and the complexity of all of them and how these two parents, you know, have done everything for their children to give them this wonderful life.

Speaker 2:

They live in this beautiful home right on the beach and it just seems like everything is so great and but it's always right underneath the surface. You know they're. They're at the beach and like a military convoy drives by, right, you know, in the very beginning of the movie she's driving around with her friends and then they get stopped at a, at a checkpoint right. So amongst the beauty of the setting that is rio, um, then that threat is always so present. So the way that this is because they could have really just kind of dove into the whole crux of the movie in terms of where this all takes a turn. They could have done that really right away, because it is a historical film and because all of this actually happened. But getting to know the Paiva family was a big highlight for me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I would agree with that. And then I want to go to your point about the tension in the film and some of the things they did to build that tension. I thought it was extremely successful, especially in that first half of the film. So the first act. Going into the second act, I thought that tension building is what kept this to be. You, you know, this kept it from being disinteresting and it made me invested in seeing what was going to happen with this family. That you are kind of growing and maybe not an attachment to per se, but you are starting to really appreciate and I really liked that about this movie.

Speaker 1:

I also really enjoyed the cinematography here. You know this. This doesn't look like a movie that was filmed in 2024. That's kind of the aesthetic they're going for. You know they do the recorder footage here and there. Uh, they, they risk using that maybe one too many times for my liking, but those did help. Add to the element of this is more of a grounded filmmaking and the fact that this is a Brazilian film and to my understanding, they haven't gotten much love any time recently. So getting an Oscar nomination was huge, let alone a win for Best International Film. I like that, we got to add this type of a movie to our catalog for this particular series.

Speaker 2:

Yep, and you're alluding to the Super 8 footage that is used in the film. I did like that Again. It kind of gives you an intimacy with the family and kind of gets you to see things through their eyes. But, yeah, really solid performances all around as well, from the really kind of trying to understand, like probably, how terrified those kids were. You know, once again, they live.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to say it was a totally privileged lifestyle, but, you know, compared to just knowing what we know, which is very little about brazil and kind of the economics down there, seem to live a pretty perfect life in terms of like what you want, like you, they walk across the street to the beach, to the. A pretty perfect life in terms of like what you want, like you're, they walk across the street to the beach, to the, to the ocean. That's a nightmare for you and I, but for this family who loves the beach, you know, just a an idyllic way to probably grow up, uh, you know, especially in that time, um, and you know, and for someone who, as far as Rubens Paiva, you know, learning more about his story and learning that he just cared so much that he put himself at risk, is something that is just really, really fascinating and, like you said, eric, really happy that this is a film that we have now been able to add to our library. For not to compare and contrast, because obviously they're totally different to our library. For not to compare and contrast because obviously they're totally different, but like feeling totally different after watching this, as compared to taxi driver, which is another film I think years from now I'm still here, will probably live in, you know, in terms of the, the cinematography and the film crowd they'll probably talk about I'm still here, you know, hopefully in 20 years, the same way that they.

Speaker 2:

We now talk about a lot of them talk about taxi driver, uh, where we just kind of felt like kind of icky after taxi driver, right, and coming away from this. Yes, it is still a devastating story, but knowing that this, like this badass woman was just like I'm gonna go back to school and I'm gonna fix this and it's gonna take me some time, but like knowing more about her and and the story is, uh, you know, I'm like just to echo again really happy that we have now know about it.

Speaker 1:

For sure, and I mean the fact that Taxi Driver was the last episode that we did before this one. You know it's fresh on our minds, which is why it's coming up here. A much different film and a much different reception, I think, for both of us, but especially me, when it comes to. I'm still here and you know the thing about this movie though it's not perfect and I think we'll transition into maybe some criticisms but I think the thing that I really took away from this was just how much better it was than Amelia Perez, like just so, so much better.

Speaker 2:

And you know what? I'm still here Needed some rap some rap penis and vagina wrapping.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's rough, it's rough. It's rough to see a film like this Get as much recognition as it could for being the international film that came out last year. That wasn't Amelia Perez, and that really pisses me off a little bit because, like Amelia Perez took the news cycle, I feel like this film deserved that attention that Amelia Perez got, and it just really upsets me that there are people in the world that actually thought that movie was better than this one. So yeah, I am ready to fill to talk personally about a couple of gripes that I had with the film. They're very, very specific things that I think may be better explained in the spoiler section, but I will at least bring them up high level.

Speaker 1:

Did you have anything else from a positive standpoint that you wanted to touch on? Again, we could go back and talk maybe another 15 minutes about Fernanda Torres. So if I was to say anything else is just to go back to that point. She is amazing, everybody's amazing. It feels like a real family. The performances are great. I can't quite put what she did or what the direction was for her character to come off the screen in that way, but it was, it was powerful, it really was.

Speaker 2:

It makes you. It just you come away from it wanting to watch more of her and learn more about her, and you know, even in some of the interviews that I watch, like she just commands your attention, and it doesn't surprise me that that translates off the screen as much as it does on the screen. So, yeah, she is just so fantastic to go back to. Unfortunately, to bring up Amelia Perez, remember there is a chance that some voters didn't even watch this, which makes should make you even angrier.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it does so they watched one international film and voted on that category, and it's like amelia perez exactly so it was great.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I like that. Uh, I like that song. They're like doing a little dance like selena gomez, like they're like. So that should make you even angrier the fact that they had to implement a rule that, if they find out you haven't watched all the oscar films, you can't vote just now. Like how is that just now? Because we have a podcast where we, with a smaller, much smaller audience than the oscars- and we're like, and we're like we're not gonna talk about it if we haven't seen it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, imagine we did this six months ago. And we're like, yeah, I don't know, amelia perez is probably better. How much, how much music is in? I'm still here I don't.

Speaker 1:

I didn't see any. I didn't see them singing in the trailer yeah yeah, that that's uh, that's a tough time.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to be too nitpicky, but there are a couple things with this movie that I think drag it down from being great Like I really enjoyed it. I really really enjoyed it. And these might be more nitpicky things. I'm going to start with the one that maybe bothered me the most, that I kind of hold against this movie, and it's the runtime. The movie's two hours and 14 minutes and on the surface that doesn't sound like a long time, phil. I don't sound like a long time.

Speaker 1:

Phil, I don't know how you felt this movie drags in that third act. Now, some things happen in that third act. We'll talk about that in the spoiler section, maybe a little bit more as far as the time that takes, that all of that takes place. But I just think, phil, this movie was it could have been condensed to maybe an hour 45. That's like 30 minutes of runtime, which is kind of that third act.

Speaker 1:

That third act could have been a montage, in my opinion. So I'm curious what you thought about it, because once we take that turn and there is a little bit of a time jump situation, I don't know, I just felt much more disinterested in it and that's probably my biggest gripe with the film that that third act is not nearly as strong as the first two when it comes to the tension building and all of that. There's not also much of a resolve, and I understand that's the story, but I don't know. Just from a film perspective it left me feeling a little disappointed at the end as far as enjoying the journey but not necessarily the destination.

Speaker 2:

So I think I think you could probably keep the film the same length and maybe give us more in terms of how did school go for her? How did all of this process go with trying to? You know, once democracy was reinstated in Brazil, how much? Why did it take her 25 years to get this death certificate? You know, and that part of the film and then also seeing the picture, the actual picture of Eunice Paiva with the death certificate is so powerful and I think you know, getting to see, maybe the kids grew up a little bit like remember, like there was like a little bit of emotional whiplash because the son has had an accident and we don't know anything about that. You know, we know that he has written a book about it and he's talked about this story, but I was like, did I miss something? Like what happened?

Speaker 2:

So I think maybe keep the story at the same length, but like I would have liked to know how different their life was once they had to leave Rio and you know what went into that decision. Like how difficult was it for a mother of five to go to school full-time, to become this lawyer and get all this done? I would have liked to know a little bit more about that, as opposed to the massive two time jumps we get. So again, it's 25 years, is a long time. They're getting the death certificate and then again we see the part at the end.

Speaker 2:

I did like the end in terms of seeing all the family together. I think that, but I think it will work even better if we know, because there's only two kids in the jump ahead. So, like what's everybody else up to, I'd have also liked to know that. So maybe, even if it is a little bit shorter, if you did cut 10, 15 minutes, but just seeing more of their life after they had left their home, which I can only imagine, was incredibly difficult, like there's a really good scene in that, in that act, where they're talking about when did they bury their father, like in their head, and I really, really like that discussion between the two of them, because I can't even imagine what type of just how that would feel in terms of dealing with someone who's missing, and you can't ever really put them to rest physically, so you have to do it in their mind. So I think, expanding upon that, maybe you would have felt a little bit differently. What do you think?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I get where you're coming from. This is going to sound bad. I don't mean it in a negative way, but like I kind of understand why they dramatize stories like this sure like from from a maybe from an entertainment value of like consuming the media, the medium or the media that's being presented.

Speaker 1:

Because, like you're saying, you couldn't imagine it.

Speaker 1:

And like, in my head I'm like, well, they could have shown us that, like they could have shown us and again, I think a lot of this I'm gonna have to elaborate in the spoiler section but what happened during that time jump? You're focused on her, like as far as the schooling and all that, and I'm thinking like, well, there had to have been some conversations and I think there would have been some real drama in those conversations, some heart-wrenching drama that you really could have displayed with these characters, and we just didn't get that. So I'll leave a lot of my like direct thoughts on it for the spoiler portion, which, again, I can't imagine is going to be long. But you know, I still recommend that you you check out this film to make your own opinion. And, phil, uh, I guess I'll kind of transition it over to you. Were there any nitpicky or big items that you wanted to address? As far as the criticisms or things that could have gone better, there there weren't really too many that I could come away with.

Speaker 2:

now, you know, in my score I didn't give this like a perfect score or anything like that, but yeah, I think really I kind of just addressed it like just wanting to know a little bit more and also spending a little bit more time with the kids.

Speaker 2:

Like leaving that home and essentially I think in their minds like admitting defeat kind of, was probably really really difficult and I can only imagine that you know tensions were already high in a home where they had quite a bit of space and quite a bit of you know room to move around and they seem to have moved into an even more cramped position, sounded like they were moving in with like their grandparents and how much of a strain with that to put on their relationships where it was already everybody was already very emotionally just worn out and drained. And you know, learning a little bit more maybe as well about about Rubens and how he was helping out the you know this resistance like learning a little bit more about that. I will just to counter myself my own argument. I do think that having it be a secret from also the audience is a good choice, but at the same time, I would like to know more about what he was doing just on the you know, outside of the scope of what we saw.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's totally fair and I think there's more to be had in the spoiler part of that conversation. So I think transitioning here to the reception of this film, our scores and then, you know, talking about spoilers, will be a good way to kind of put a little bow on this episode. But I think we're probably ready to have that dialogue. So if you have not seen the film after our scores, we'll give you that reminder. But let's get into that, Phil, because I am curious where we both landed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let's see where this sits here Now. Unsurprisingly, very, very high scores across the board Rotten Tomatoes 97% tomato meter score and a 97% popcorn meter score. Percent tomato meter score and a 97 percent popcorn meter score. So one of those instances where critics and audiences agree. Over on IMDb, it sits at a eight point three out of 10. And then over on Letterboxd it is at a four point three. So, and a majority of those Eric over 50 percent, 59 percent of those are five out of fives.

Speaker 2:

And when you look at the reviews, a lot of those Eric over 50%, 59% of those are five out of fives. And when you look at the reviews, a lot of them are in Portuguese. So I'm sure this resonates so much more with those people and who have ancestors right that could still be alive from this time, which is totally insane to think about. So a lot of five out of tens or five out of fives. I gave this a four out of five for myself. It is certainly one of the better films that we have watched and also one of the best films from 2024. I don't know if you added this to your 2024 list, eric. I did so if you want to discuss where that landed for us. But yeah, four out of five for me and just a movie that you come away from that. There's no possible way that I think you could come away from it being upset that you watched it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a great way to end that whole statement there, because it's a movie that I'm glad we added to our catalog, that we watched and we got to discuss. I did not add it to my 2024 list, I did forget. I'm going to do that as we wrap up that conversation. Yeah, I'm going to need a moment to really think about this. So, as I focus back up on the score that I gave it, it seems harsh, but the movie had so much going for it in the first half and I just think that, given the circumstances of the film and we'll elaborate on this a little bit more in a moment in that spoiler section I think this movie turns into a tension building, interesting film about a true story, and it's not less interesting because it's a true story in that second half, but the way that it plays out is less interesting and I just I wanted to give this movie a four as well and I feel like that being my biggest gripe, being like a one and a half star deduction is kind of like insane, but in my gut this movie is a three and a half.

Speaker 1:

It's probably more of a 3.75. It's just short of that four star rating. For that reason maybe. Maybe I feel differently on second watch through if I was to ever go around to it. But this movie is also, you know, very sad. It's a very sad story and do I want to dive into that again? Not really, and I've seen sad movies before that I want to dive into again. So those are probably the two biggest reasons for my particular score and Phil of the two biggest reasons for my particular score and phil as far as 2024 films.

Speaker 2:

Where did this rank for you? I have it at number 11, so right outside the top 10, right behind dune part 2 and in front of twisters yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:

That is crazy. I'm yeah, I'm gonna put it at 23, which would put it right under Nosferatu, which is crazy, considering how I felt about that movie walking out of the theater and right above Civil War. Yeah, so I feel like that's a really good spot.

Speaker 2:

I forget all the time that we saw Civil War and really I only remember at this point Jesse Plemons.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, that movie exists in like a weird plane because it's good. Kaylee Spiney is great in it, though, too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that is true, and the guy, the main guy for me.

Speaker 1:

So the main guy in that. I'm like I'm going to, I'm going to double check this, but I'm like 90 percent sure he plays Puss in Boots. He plays death in Puss in Boots. So, oh, he plays Puss in Boots.

Speaker 2:

He plays Death in Puss in Boots. Oh Wagner Mora yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm pretty positive, Puss in Boots take a shot.

Speaker 2:

How did we bring up the last wish? And I'm still here. That wasn't even on purpose. That one came up organically. There's no way, man. We're not even doing it on purpose anymore. I don't know what that was.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what that was that was that was crazy anyway. Where?

Speaker 2:

is it on? I'll go first my international feature lists. I have it ranked number 13, behind old boy and in front of okja yeah, on my list.

Speaker 1:

Uh, it is number 18 behind okjaja Decision to Leave and All Quiet on the Western Front. But right above, 28 Days Later, Wolfwalkers and Wolf Children.

Speaker 2:

We're at the point now where this list is insane. This list of films that we have is crazy, and obviously there are some that I have higher than you and vice versa, but looking at these movies, it's like crazy.

Speaker 1:

And there's.

Speaker 2:

Emilia Perez.

Speaker 1:

Again is in looking at these movies, it's like crazy I know there's amelia perez, again it's we, we can't stress this enough like when, when it came down to us figuring out like what series we wanted to introduce to the podcast at that time and keep you know, I just kept thinking, like there are so many international films we didn't get to see, and like it'd be cool if we get some of you guys along for the ride and maybe we convince you to watch a film and you end up loving it. But, like, at the end of the day, like this was really for two things One, to expand our filmography and then two to find more films that we could like connect over and we could really appreciate. Two, to find more films that we could like connect over and we could really appreciate. And man Phil, like off of this list alone, there are so many films that we either quote or we think of or we reference in other episodes and it's yeah, it's one of my proudest achievements of decisions that we made on the podcast was this series in particular.

Speaker 1:

Late to the Party is fun. We've also in a way, done the same thing there. But International Feature, specifically, is so specific that I think that you know it's a real accomplishment and, yeah, I am happy that we made that choice, but we also have spoilers to talk about for this film, so you know what to do here.

Speaker 2:

You guys know what to do. Listen to the video. For those of you that are on the YouTube audience get out. Get out. If you have not seen, I'm Still here and you're complaining about subtitles, shut up and go watch the film. You can rent it for like six dollars on Amazon Prime, but make sure you go check out the movie before listening to this part. So yeah, eric, I mean, like I said, I mean this is a true story. So there, how much can we really really spoil? So what did you want to uh, discuss here?

Speaker 1:

yeah. So I mean like we didn't shy away from it, but we didn't. I don't think we came out and right and outright and said it that rubens the, the husband, the father, does die. Uh, he is dead. He's pretty much dead immediately after being taken, pretty quick. Which is crazy to learn like, yeah, which is crazy to learn, sad to learn like very sad.

Speaker 1:

The actor that played him like very fatherly, like the performance was great. Again, fernando torres is amazing in this. I just think that she can only carry the film so much without addressing like the elephants in the room. Like I understand the mother aspect of like lying to the kids and, hey, smile, but like he's gone for like a long time, I do think that there is, there is a payoff there of like the kids figuring it out, addressing it with her head on. Maybe and again I know it's based off a true story but like what was their reaction? Did they think they might want to do something about this too? Was it just the mother that wanted to do that? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I just felt like there was meat on the bone of the story that went untouched and maybe it was because they didn't want to disrespect and dramatize the story by doing that.

Speaker 1:

But I just felt like it made it less interesting as a film and I think that's my biggest issue, because then the time jumps happen and in those time jumps you mentioned it on the episode the son is in a fucking wheelchair and we just don't talk about like what happened there, we don't see the other children or anybody else that was involved in this story and I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It almost feels like the story was set up for failure in that aspect with me, because you do learn in the credits that five people were charged but never went to prison, so it's not even like you could have like a happy ending in that way. I don't know. I feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place of like respecting this true story and the way it was told, versus what I mentioned earlier, like that dramatization that would have enhanced the film and the characters, even though these are characters of real people, to me they're characters in a movie, so like I wanted to see that progression and I feel like we lost some of that. Even if Fernando Torres, from start to finish, was amazing, I just felt like as a film, character-wise, it could have been enhanced in that way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I'm sure, at least from like the very little that I have seen in terms of press, that they did, it didn't seem like they were very interested in any type of dramatization. So, staying true to the story, being respectful to this, the source material, and you know everything that that happens, also a story that hits very close to home, even in 2025. So, probably not wanting to go that, I'm sure all of that played very, very heavy in terms of the decisions that they made when it comes to this film. I also would have liked to know a little bit more about, like she has, this group of friends that are alluded to as press, but we don't really. We get like a the idea and we can context clues. We know that they're. You know they're trying, they have to navigate what they do and do not release and then a little bit later there's it seems like a tabloid is there right that? Not even like a serious news publication, like how did that all come to be? So there are things that and you know what they're probably doing Eric is just encouraging you to go look into the real story. You know, I'm sure that is what they want when it comes to this, but for film purposes.

Speaker 2:

Like you said, there's just some things we would like expanded upon, especially in that third act, like I said. Like, where are the other kids? You know what has happened he's. You know the son. I have learned like the son wrote a book. The book is called I Am Still here and that was the whole.

Speaker 2:

You know he had written the book that ended up being this film to talk about what a hero that his mother was, which is outstanding. So, but just like I would have liked to know more of that about that. Like, when did he decide to write that book? You know what? Some of those decisions in terms of as she progressed and got a little bit older, like how did they take care of her and how did she manage that grief as she slowly started to lose memory of what happened and everything that she did, so, yeah, just things that, when it comes to film, like the actual film we would have liked to see more of. But I assume and I don't know if this is the case or not what they want you to do is just go out and learn more about this actual, this actual person and what happened.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and maybe the history of what that that dictatorship in brazil looked like, you know, and the atrocities that happened there, like that makes a lot of sense. I just feel like you know, if you're going to show us having uh, you know, you're going to show us that dog dying, you could have showed us, you know, how that accident happened and how that was the dog's name. Uh, uh damn it started with a p, and I know that.

Speaker 2:

I know that for sure too it was a p because it was named after her boyfriend yeah, it was like pa pa something.

Speaker 1:

I'm still here, dog, let's look it up. Nope, nope, that's not. It didn it Pim Pow?

Speaker 2:

Pim Pow.

Speaker 1:

Pim Pow yeah so yeah, oh this book was published in 2024.

Speaker 2:

Stop, stop, stop getting me.

Speaker 1:

Hey, right here I got distracted, sorry. Yeah, anyway, I digress. That was my Again. I like I don't have many more gripes. It's such a big gri. I was borderline.

Speaker 1:

I was so interested in the beginning of this movie and then I was so close not quite, but so close to being bored in the second half and I feel bad. I feel bad that that was the case. It is a true story, it's an important story to be told. But, just as a consumer of a film, I got to be honest with myself and that's how I felt. So that's why I gave it the three and a half.

Speaker 1:

I got to be honest with myself and that that's how I felt. So that's that's why I gave it the three and a half, because, like, if it was on, I definitely would you know, just for Fernando Torres alone and the chemistry of the family throughout the film, it would pique my interest. But, yeah, not a movie that I think that I would go see. It is a movie you could recommend to people, but that's also like such a selective group, right, like people that are interested in this type of story or international films. Like I feel like we know people like that, but general audience wise, probably not a movie that would be on most people's radar.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's why, like there are just so many different types of films that are on this list for us when it comes to international future, that all give us totally different things. I mean, look at my top 10. It's got train to busan rrr. Benji's finish here in past lives in bruges, another round. Those films don't have anything in common, like they're all outstanding and some of the best films that I've ever seen memories of murder, like the films that I've I would have never watched without this. So even if people like general audiences aren't seeking them out, at least we have that category that helps us find these films. So, yeah, even if you don't necessarily think that this would be your cup of tea, I certainly still employ you to check it out, just like Eric said, because it is a very important story to tell.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I need to watch the Banshees of Innish here and again, so I can just give it the five that I want to give it. I don't know why.

Speaker 2:

I'm pretty sure I've given it a five you gave it a five. Yeah, because I was at a four and a half and I was like, nope, I love that film with every fiber of my being.

Speaker 1:

I could change it bygones be bygones, but I want to see it a second time to solidify it.

Speaker 2:

Look at the donkeys in the picture.

Speaker 1:

So good, so good, but yeah no like.

Speaker 2:

I got to move that up.

Speaker 1:

Did I.

Speaker 2:

Did I? I thought you did Cutting off fingers Fucking good dude God. I'm going to start cutting off my fingers and giving them to you Whenever the podcast is about to end, I'm going to start cutting off fingers.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, but guys, that was our episode on it. You know, I don't know that we're already starting to get off topic, which is disrespectful to the film that we just covered, because it was a very great film. If you're still here and you heard the spoilers, it really doesn't take away from your view of the film. Phil kind of mentioned it like how much can we really spoil about a true story? Your view of the film, phil kind of mentioned it like how much can we really spoil about a true story? I think the performances and the chemistry in this movie, and even the filmmaking itself, are good enough to warrant a guaranteed watch and, at the very least, a good time, something that you can appreciate and you can absolutely put on your film list, uh, of things that you need to see, especially if you're trying to catch up on the whirlwind of films that was 2024. So, phil, with that being said, I think we are good to kind of wrap this up and, yeah, move on to our next international film and continue to add to that list.

Speaker 2:

Last thing I will bring up before we wrap up here. Last thing I will bring up before we wrap up here Would you, now that you've seen this, you've seen all the rest of the films that were nominated would you have given?

Speaker 1:

Fernando Torres the best actress. Nod over Mikey Madison. That's tough, yeah, that's tough. I also was a big Cynthia Erivo backer.

Speaker 2:

I thought, after all that stuff happened you know the Mike, the Enora, intimacy stuff, and then Amelia Perez, obviously, and then, uh, you know, with the substance being horror like they're, they're still fighting that uphill battle. So I thought maybe they would just take the easy way out and give it to her. But honestly, and I love Mikey, I love Enora, one of my favorite films of 2025, 2024. But if now, seeing this, if they had given it to Fernanda Torres, knowing what I know now, I would not have been upset.

Speaker 1:

I wouldn't have been upset either. Let me move this over here. I wouldn't have been upset either. No, best actress, I'm just looking. Who are the other people?

Speaker 1:

Fernanda Torres, Demi Moore, the one from Amelia Perez, cynthia Erivo and Mikey Madison. And Mikey Madison, yeah, I mean like no, I you madison, yeah, I mean like no, I would have been okay. I would have been okay with the win. I do think I was a big cynthia arrivo backer, just because of how fucking iconic wicked is and how much it blew me away, um, but I was more backing ariana for her category because it was a weaker category in my opinion. So, yeah, I would say she definitely deserved to be nominated, deserved to be a front runner. I would have been okay with either Fernanda Torres or Mikey Madison. That's kind of where a 1A, 1b situation you really could have given it to either. And to me, moore deserves the respect too. As much as I didn't like the substance which I gave it a three. So I shouldn't say that it's just not. I know it's just not. Anyway, I don't want to do this right now.

Speaker 2:

Well, eric likes to hand out three out of fives. What you should not do is give us a three out of five. You should give us a five out of five on any podcast player, such as Apple Podcasts or Spotify, that is so beneficial to us. And make sure you click the link in the show notes of this episode and find us on social media, the most important ones being Instagram, tiktok, our growing and flourishing Discord community, as well as over on YouTube, and we are streaming basically every week now, with some bonus streams happening all of the time. Make sure you also follow Eric and I's personal accounts.

Speaker 2:

Eric has been putting out a ton of content over on Instagram and TikTok, and I have been on this journey to become a voice actor, so if you want to keep up with our personal stories as well, make sure you follow us there. And yep, I already mentioned, you know, as far as giving us a five-star review. Oh, tag us. Tag us on social media. Let us know that you're listening, let other people know that you're listening. All that is so beneficial and we love to see it.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

Eric will let you know more about that before wrapping us up.

Speaker 1:

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