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International Feature: KPop Demon Hunters
K-pop Demon Hunters blends spectacular animation with chart-topping music to create Netflix's biggest animated surprise hit of the year. Sony Pictures' animated film follows K-pop superstars Rumi, Mira, and Zoey who use their secret powers to protect fans from supernatural threats.
• Animation style draws inspiration from Spider-Verse and Mitchells vs. The Machines, offering something fresh compared to traditional Disney animation
• Music serves as the film's beating heart, with songs like Golden, Soda Pop, and What It Sounds Like climbing streaming charts worldwide
• Director Maggie Kang describes the film as her "love letter to K-pop and her Korean roots"
• Authentic Korean representation throughout, from character design to animation techniques specifically depicting Korean facial features
• Character dynamics feel genuine and lived-in, particularly the friendship between the three Huntrix members
• Strong potential for award nominations and franchise expansion
Letterbox'd Synopsis: When K-pop superstars Rumi, Mira and Zoey aren’t selling out stadiums, they’re using their secret powers to protect their fans from supernatural threats.
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Speaker 2:And all you gotta do is wait for it. This is the Wait For it Podcast. Hey, everyone, welcome back to the Wait For it Podcast. I'm your co-host, phil Barrera, aka Phil the Filipino.
Speaker 1:And I'm your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, and for this edition of International Feature. Well, this episode doesn't really need an introduction, because everyone's talking about it and, yeah, we fell into the craze. We have to talk about it too. Phil, we are here to talk about K-pop. Demon hunters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we are recording this episode a couple of weeks early. So this episode will come out on July 16th but we're recording it on July 1st, so we're very much still right in the middle of the craze that is K-pop. Demon Hunters. It released, I think, last week and we'll see where everything stands on the 16th. I'm sure this is going to go very, very strongly as far as this craze throughout the remainder of the year. Eric, I can't even imagine we have Infinity Con in a couple weeks. I can't even imagine how much K-Pop Team and Hunter stuff we are going to see, not only Infinity Con, ocala Comic Con. At least one of us will be at Tampa Bay Comic Con. Well, we will not be able to look anywhere Without seeing Huntrix and the Saja Boys and Derpy as well. So very, very excited to get to this episode here.
Speaker 2:Eric, and we did a little bit of a pivot, even though this technically is a film. You know it's an American produced film but everybody involved, from the director to a lot of the producers, animators and, of course, the voice actors Most of them are Korean or from somewhere else in the world. So we figured it would be a good chance for us to talk about this because everybody else is. So before we dive into the episode, I want to welcome in any returning and brand new listeners. If you want to keep up with the WayForward podcast, make sure you stick around to the very end of the episode. We'll let you know where you can find everything that you need. But yeah, eric, let's get into this here.
Speaker 2:K-pop Demon Hunter is a film that released on Netflix. It is a Sony animated film. So when you think of what does this animation look like? Think Mitchell vs Machines Into the Spider-Verse. So it is of that ilk. It was directed by Chris Applehans and Maggie Kang and the synopsis reads when K-Pop superstars Rumi, Mira and Zoey aren't selling out stadiums, they're using their secret powers to protect their fans from supernatural threats.
Speaker 2:So, eric, I brought this film to your. I brought it to you probably a couple months back because I just randomly saw a trailer, I think, on Twitter, and I was like what in the world is this? Because obviously, what's going to stand out is like whenever you see the Mitchells versus the machines or Spider-Verse animation, it's immediately going to be eye catching. Anything that's not this like round, circular animation that Disney just seems so committed to right now. That's always going to catch your eye. So, leading up to this, where was this on your radar? Because obviously we're going to talk about the impact of it now, but, like, leading up to it, it kind of we're like, oh yeah, k-pop Demon Hunters came out. What was your level of interest leading into this release?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was very minimal. In fact, when Phil had talked about watching the movie and then kind of wanted to pivot to this being the international feature, my first thing was that, oh, this is like a Sony Pictures movie. This is a United States project right, like I know it's K-pop demon hunters but you kind of assume they're going to Americanize it a little bit, just because, unfortunately, that's the shitty thing that studios tend to do. And when we looked at the animation through the trailer, I didn't know how to express it, but now it makes sense reading more about it. They took some of those hybrid 2D, 3d elements apparently and they made it more less 2D and they kind of went a different direction with it, which I think is a good thing. But I couldn't quite tell from the trailer. I was like this animation looks good, it looks different. I wonder what that looks like. Am I gonna check it out? Maybe I guess I'll watch it. I want to see what other people think about it first.
Speaker 1:And then phil, it took zero time. It went from zero to a hundred on how people started to feel about this, including yourself, yourself, and I started to read up more about it and then getting to hear a little bit more about how much of the Korean like culture is in this movie, down to how they animated some of these characters. We'll get maybe into some of that in a little bit. But I started reading up on the movie more and I was like, okay, so maybe there's hope that this isn't just an Americanized project trying to capitalize on K-pop, which is very popular. And I pressed play, I wasn't reluctant, I was like I'm going to give this a real shot and I walked away loving the film. I stayed away from the film and thought about it and then it just kept getting thrown in my face. And here we are, phil, to say today I love it even more than I did when I watched it the first time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think in our friend group I was the first person to jump into it, because it was just one of those nights where I was just hanging out and I think I probably was playing like a game on my one screen. I was like, oh, let me, I forgot that this released. Let me go ahead and check it out and I forgot that this released, let me go ahead and check it out. And that, of course, with that being like one of the first things you see, you get the backstory. You know you get the traditional backstory.
Speaker 2:You get to meet the characters. They got really cool designs and then you jump into the music and you're like, okay, maybe we're cooking here, let's see where this goes. You get a lot more lore drop and you know we'll talk about the music here in just a moment and from what I have seen from people that I have introduced this to, they're pretty bought in by the time golden comes up. But when soda pop comes on, that is when a lot of people are like they like perk up, they're like oh, which is probably a pretty bad sign in case demons ever came to earth to try to take over as a boy band.
Speaker 1:Not great, we're really easy, no, we're really easy. Cattle to really just get together.
Speaker 2:So that's what I have seen from a lot of people that I had them take this on. So I'll say this, like because my daughter and my sister were a little reluctant to jump into this because they just assume it was one sister were a little reluctant to jump into this because they just assume it was one. It was just an anime, which I had to assure them that you know, you have to approach this like a sony film, like a spider verse, like a mitchell's versus the machines, and also, too, they're not necessarily really into k-pop, and that I definitely understand as well. So if, for some reason, again, a month removed from the movie's release, you still have been reluctant to dive into it because of those two things, maybe you're not into quote unquote anime. That's not what this is.
Speaker 2:Are there anime elements in this? Yes, of course, but that's not what's going on here. It also is English. That's the primary language of the film. It is. There is Korean sprinkled into the film, of course, because, like you said, eric, there is a lot of stuff that's true to culture in here that I think is really great. But to you know, if you want to speak to maybe those people that, for whatever reason have not seen it yet about maybe some reservations they would have about watching something like this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I would say out of the two of us, I'm probably more familiar with the K-pop territory, like I do listen to Stray Kids and a couple other groups not very often, but I definitely have listened to that type of music and I get I get the craze and like the whole thing behind it. For the most part, I've got a pretty good grip around that. However, it's not something that I would normally jump into and that probably was some of my hesitation. When the movie, like I can keep k-pop Hunters the fucking title doesn't really lend itself to like a mass appeal. It's very clear K-pop Demon Hunters, which, again not surprising you then mention you have people in your life that are like, oh, this is just an anime. So it kind of gives that mixed signal of who the audience is for this.
Speaker 1:But there's so much going behind this movie other than just catchy music that I think really helps. Now, is it strong in every area? We will discuss that and I think I might be a little bit more harsh on certain story or plot points than you are, but I think what people need to understand when they're coming into this film yes, there's K-pop, yes, there's demon hunters and demon slaying happening, but there's a lot more heart to this film and I really think, at the end of the day, that's what people can relate with, even if they're not a fan of the genre or K-pop itself. I think you can really get behind a movie like this, and it does help that the music is catchy as hell, so like it is. When you get to Golden you're pretty much like oh this, so the music's going to slap the whole time. That's great, you know. And then you get to Soda Pop and you're just like shouldn't enjoy this, just like the characters shouldn't enjoy this. But those shoulders are moving, man, those shoulders are moving.
Speaker 2:Hey, the Saja boys need us right. So like, who are we to turn down the saja boy? Who are we so?
Speaker 2:yeah yeah, that's. Another thing is, uh, you know when we're talking about, uh, those characters as well. Like, the characters are all just so very lovable, um, not only when it comes to huntrix, but also, you know, the big star of this is Jinu. I think he's probably coming away like on top, probably between him and Rumi. As far as the two, well, actually it might be Derpy, which we haven't even touched on yet. It might actually be Derpy.
Speaker 1:I was going to say Jinu is crazy considering his backstory, which we will, because this movie is fresh, very, very fresh. Off of this episode, we will have a spoiler centric section for those of you guys that do not want to be spoiled. But uh, yeah, kind of crazy considering his backstory, for sure yeah, and I've seen this movie four times now.
Speaker 2:So just to give you guys a little insight into what's going on, I do want to read some of the um notes here. As far as on the wikipedia development, because Maggie Kang has been very, very active on Twitter, answering people's questions, interacting with the fan base, which is really cool. She said it was conceived by her to make a film set in Korean culture. She delved into mythology and demonology for something that could be visually unique in comparison to mainstream media. She also called the film her love letter to k-pop and her korean roots. So she wanted to differentiate it from, like the marvel female superheroes that we're seeing. Um, she wanted to and I've seen a lot of women talk about this here on on social media as well really making sure that like it showed that these main characters like in like a natural element, so bare face, no makeup, you know, just being with their friends and being with their female relationships and sitting in those. Those things are really, really important. So, and from what I've seen and the as far as uh reception on that end, she has nailed that. So, um, that has been really, really cool to see. So, yeah, you don't necessarily need to be a fan of those specific things, because I think this will draw in quite a few people. But, um, when we talk about, uh, I guess we'll um, we'll go back to some of those characters, eric.
Speaker 2:So who do you have as some of your favorites are? You, are we team huntrix? Did you jump over to the sadra boys? Who's your vote going for when it comes to the idol awards? Where? Where were you leaning?
Speaker 1:huntrix all the way. Baby, like, come on now, come on now. Not even a choice.
Speaker 2:I'm just also gonna say, like saja boys living my dream. Well, actually I'll be. I'll save that for the spoiler part, never mind yeah, yeah, I was like where you go, yeah never mind um yeah, you know, I'll say out of them.
Speaker 1:Obviously they did a really good job fleshing out, um, you know the the three characters specific. Obviously the movie's about Rumi, uh, so the main character, but you know, fleshing out Mira and and Zoe uh, I think they did a good job with that, with with the Saja boys, like they're cute, they're fun, but like it's Genu. And then there's the rest of them. Like, in my opinion, there wasn't a lot of fleshing out there when it came to those characters. Maybe, who knows, maybe that happens in the future. We'll talk about, like the future of this franchise, what that could look like and what we'd want to see in the spoiler section. But yeah, I just think that all three of the vocalists for the main group, our main characters of the story in Huntrix, they were handled really well and they were really the focus of the film, like their friendship together, their personalities, how they bounced off of one another. That was extremely crucial for the ending song, which hits like a ton of bricks in my opinion. So I got to go with my girls.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they are great. We get. You know obviously the most about Rumi, but they sprinkle in just enough about Zoe and Mira to make you believe that this is a true like lived in friendship, and you really get the idea as well, with the stuff that they sprinkle in as far as their backstories, that they really all three of them have benefited so much from being in this group and getting to be themselves. Also, let's shout out Bobby, who never became like a stereotypical character as far as their manager, just somebody who just supported them all the way through and through.
Speaker 1:Really, really great character. That was King Jong too. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, daniel Dae Kim is in this, so there are some names that probably you know the standard Western audience will recognize. Sun Won Cho, who is pro ZD on social media he plays.
Speaker 1:Abby, he was abs. That's crazy. Abs, saja.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he plays Abby. He also is like who is he? He's also another really serious character in a different anime. So it's oh, isn't he in Delicious in Dungeon.
Speaker 1:That wouldn't surprise me, honestly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so he is in. It's really good to see him. I hope we get to like interview or work with him someday at a convention.
Speaker 1:But yeah, he is in delicious and dungeon yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:So again, as far as, like you're not gonna get when it comes to like essentially eight characters you know the three characters in huntrix and then five saja boys you really can only have time to focus on one of them and of course, that ended up being Genie. We get, like you know, just enough comedy and humor and from the other Saja boys, but they weren't necessary. We didn't need anything there, anything too extra there. So there certainly are characters that we'll talk about here when it comes to opportunities here in a moment that we could have fleshed out a lot more I would have liked to see, but other than that, you know, again, I think everybody's going to come away from this with having their own favorite character. I'm a Zoe stan, that's my girl, all the way, but they're all fantastic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, they really are. And man, I mean, like you know, I feel like for this movie, this the animation kind of speaks for itself. We talked a little bit about that. The one note I'll make, because I feel like we're tiptoeing around what we really want to talk about and I know we're going to probably spend a hot minute into this it's usually the animation. But, sticking on that topic, one of the things that the director emphasized was the effort to authentically represent Korean identity through character animation, so like mouth shapes and eye shapes that were very korean uh, that was brown eyes, no blue eyes here, baby very cool.
Speaker 1:Although the characters speak english, they explain the animators made the mouth shapes that you would only make for a korean person, uh, with our korean language. So, like there, there seemed to be a lot of care and love that came into this film and obviously it's like very much inspired by the Spider-Verse films. But one of the notes here was it's an inspiration of 2D aesthetics, but with three dimensional language, so it's going to have more of a bold graphic look and those things really stood out with the animation. They also took liberties to make it fun, like it wasn't realistic at all times, right, things really stood out with the animation. They also took liberties to make it fun, like it wasn't realistic at all times, right. Like at one point one of the characters has popcorn running out of their eyes, like that's a cool like visual Boys can create hearts and no one questions it.
Speaker 1:No one questions it. There's a lot of stuff happening in the backgrounds that, like through edits, I've seen that.
Speaker 1:I didn't notice, like there's just Zoe edits of her acting so great, she's so good which gives to the replayability of the movie, and I think a lot of that has to do with you will miss stuff in the animation the first time around. So a lot of those things from an animation standpoint are great. But ultimately, phil, I think what takes this movie to the next level and what we're kind of skirting around is the fucking music. Like it is really, really good. I think you had posted, like they just cracked like the top 10 for spotify, like as both of them.
Speaker 1:Both yeah on tricks and the saja boys are on spotify's we're gonna have a real idol idol awards this year at this point, but the music was just so, so good and, honestly, is the thing that I think takes this movie to a whole different level.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I said, when you talk about how it's done, I enjoy how it's done, but then when Golden comes on, you're like, oh shit, like this is. I was just thinking the other day that, man, I have no idea, here in the middle of June, what my Spotify rap is going to look like. Well, that's cooked, that's done, that is done, done, done. Now, as of July 1st, I know what's going to be at the top. I guess the only question is it going to be is it going to be Huntrix, or is it going to be the Saja Boys, or will it be Rumi and Jinu, just those two specifically at the top? Because it's outstanding and they came.
Speaker 2:You know, they were inspired by a whole bunch of different things, which was mentioned by the, the director over on Twitter as far as where the inspiration came from, from different K-pop groups, but also, you know, like she mentioned, like superheroes and all these other things, just wanting to make a really unique identity for Huntrix, and that really really comes through. So what about you, eric? So where did you really really buy into this music? Because, again, I think how it's done, how it's done really peaks when they start to rap, like when they're jumping from the plane Golden, I think is solid all the way through giraffe, like when they're jumping from the plane golden, I think is solid all the way through. And then again, like I said, we get soda pop. So when did you really fully buy into what we were listening to?
Speaker 1:it's kind of weird because, like I would say, how it's done is maybe my least favorite, honestly, if I'm looking, I would agree that yeah, and I don't hate it by any means.
Speaker 2:I still enjoy it.
Speaker 1:But no, it's a fun intro, uh. But yeah, you get like a teaser of golden. You don't even get all of golden, which I think is a hit or miss, depending on how I feel when I think back to it. Like they did tease a lot of the songs, so I don't know. Yeah, I don't know how I felt about that. I gotta maybe sit on that for a minute, but golden is 100.
Speaker 1:Where I sat and I was like, wow, this is like really good, the vocals are really good, they sound amazing and it's catchy and and it's a really strong song. Soda pop is just so fun. So like I do feel like it's probably golden. That set me up. And then soda pop is just what like kept me in. So I just got, I got ready to be lifted into the world of k-pop and then Soda Pop just was like the gentle pillow that I landed on. So that's that's kind of the analogy I'll go with.
Speaker 1:And then you know, obviously you got Takedown, you've got your idol. I've really started to enjoy Free a lot the more I listen to it, but ultimately and this is the weird thing I was really enjoying it until what it sounds like. And then we again, I keep saying a whole nother level, like what it sounds like, is probably going to overtake a lot of songs in my Spotify wrapped. I love that song. I think it's a amazing crescendo for what this movie is trying to offer and in that aspect, when it comes to the three of them, very effective.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I will be punching the sky for a while over the fact that we don't get to see what it sounds like in a theater, and maybe that's something we need to look into where we can rent out a theater display what we want, because I think this would have been so much it's a very cliched thing to say, we say it all the time I think this would have been so much fun to see in a theater, even if you wanted to make a whole production like have lights, you know, have, you know, have the seats rumble or whatever. I think it would have been a whole lot of fun. Ironically, I've also had a lot of Psy show up on my Instagram reels. I'm like I want that experience. That's what I want to go see, uh. So yeah, I agree with you, what it sounds like is at the top for me as well, along with free.
Speaker 2:Whenever genu starts kind of like getting into his flow in that song, I was like whoa, what's happening? I already I love roomie, but then again, when, when that part starts, I was like yo, what is what's happening right now? I also very much love your idol. I would probably say that's like the next tier down. But yeah, excellent music and, again, we are very easy to please when it comes to that. So how do you feel about Takedown? I think that was actually my daughter said that was her least. Actually, takedown was her least favorite.
Speaker 1:I think why I like what it sounds like in Golden so much more is that they're so different from how it's done in Takedown. I think if you like K-pop, like you listen to it often. You probably like those two songs more than the average person, if I was to guess, because I think Golden and what it sounds like have a little bit more broad appeal. Also, I think they're just stronger from like character perspectives. Like I know the lyrics are a little on the nose, but it's okay sometimes. Like this is where Disney and some of these other companies need to take a note when it comes to like not only strong female characters but characters in general. When they're like singing a song about a situation. It can be on the nose with the lyrics, but there has to be like real, genuine emotion behind that and there needs to be a buildup for some of that. And where I think it kind of works for this is what I mentioned about earlier they kind of play parts of Golden until they play the actual song later on. It kind of works for Golden because of the theme, but they do the same thing for Takedown. You hear bits and pieces of Takedown before you actually hear Takedown and what it's going to do to the story and how it's implemented, and we'll talk about that in spoilers.
Speaker 1:I think for Takedown that was a detriment and they probably shouldn't have shown us what some of the lyrics were until it happened. So I think you would also, at that point, heard it a couple of times and that worked against it, where for Golden, for me it worked, uh, even though it was doing the same kind of plot device, uh, as far as how it was using the music. So those are my thoughts. Uh, they could be completely off Cause. Again, I'm not a K-pop guy, but I just would. From what I know and what I've heard of K-pop, I think the themes of how it's done in Takedown are probably more for those diehard K-pop fans than the general audience, who has, I think, really gone more towards the Saja Boys and then those two songs that I mentioned for Huntrix.
Speaker 2:I enjoy Takedown. I also. I do like how they implemented it into the fights, and that's really more so because that is a choice they had made very early on, obviously, with how it's done. So I do think that I probably enjoyed it a little bit more than most people. But yeah, I thought it worked pretty well on the train sequence as well, maybe just extend it out a little bit longer, but I think that also it plays into Rumi's hesitancy to commit to that song is most likely what is going on there. But yeah, we could gush about this film for quite a while, but it doesn't mean that it's perfect and even though both of our scores are very high, it doesn't mean that there weren't opportunities. So, eric, is there anything else you want to mention before we head over to that side of the conversation?
Speaker 1:yeah, I think it's fair for the spoiler free side. Just to know a couple things that I think this movie isn't able to accomplish, unfortunately due to its runtime uh, at an hour 40. Um, there are some. There is one character by the name of selene who is not fleshed out at all but plays a pretty pivotal role towards the end, and we'll talk about this in spoilers. But I thought that was a huge missed opportunity to not really delve into that. I also think there's a lot of like backstory stuff, that like and world building that we didn't quite get to. That another 20 minutes with this movie would have done.
Speaker 1:And also, I will say, although I ended up buying it, I do think the roomy love angle with one of the characters I think is a little rushed, a little rushed. As much as I love you know their song together, I think they're, I don't know. I just felt like I wanted a little bit more time to sit with it. I did buy in, but I would have liked a little bit more time to go from enemies to lovers, type thing. So that, without getting into too much, those are probably like my main gripes with the film. If I was to summarize them, phil, what about you? Because you probably have way less than I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have a couple. One would definitely be Celine, like you said, and apparently who, as far as her voice actor, who is Young Jin Kim, she is a like big time Korean actress. So a lot of people were kind of like I wouldn't say upset, but like you brought her in and you didn't really give her. So a lot of people were kind of like I wouldn't say upset, but like you brought her in and you didn't really give her like a lot of time. So I would definitely definitely say that for me you know how a here comes, take a shot a generational villain can take, can make him film immortal to us, and while I guess, such as puss in boots, okay okay, I just wanted to make sure I didn't know where you were going with that.
Speaker 1:Who has two?
Speaker 2:excellent villains, yes, in one film, so it's just crazy. So because gima is not very fleshed out and also pretty boring when it comes to his design. Compared to everything else in this film, which is fantastical and beautiful and outstanding, gima is essentially like the dirty bubble in flashbots or when they, or when they make galactus a cloud, yeah, or that, something like that so I don't know if there ever was at some point a physical manifestation of gima, but maybe that would have been a better way to go.
Speaker 1:There's definitely some world building there. That I mentioned that, I think, was a missed opportunity which, who knows, a potential sequel could fill that.
Speaker 2:And then you look a little bit more positively on the first.
Speaker 1:No, there's no way but anyway, we're going to save that for the spoiler talk. We can go over scores. We can go over scores.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's talk about scores, because we still have quite a bit to talk about and discuss. So when it comes to Rotten Tomatoes 97% tomato meter score it doesn't have the certified fresh thing here. I wonder why that's interesting. 89% popcorn meter score over on IMDb it has a 7.8 out of 10. Remember, anything over seven on IMDb means it's much better than that. And then when we head over to the letterbox, it is holding strong at a 3.7 out of five.
Speaker 2:So after my first watch through of this film, I had given it a four. I have since watched it three more times. I've watched it once again on my own, just because it was stuck in my head, and I had to watch it again. I watched it again with my daughter, sister and brother in law. They loved it and you always get a sense of like. I told you that you like Krabby Patties, don't you Especially. It's just a very rewarding feeling whenever you show somebody something and they and they very, and you knew that they were going to like it and they very much did so. And then I watched it a fourth time while my daughter and I were just putting together some furniture. We were like we just threw it on. So I have it currently. I upped it to a 4.5.
Speaker 2:It is one of my favorite films of the year. I it is one of my favorite films of the year. I have to have a. I'm going to wait until the end of the year see how I feel.
Speaker 2:I probably did it a little too early. But I have to have a discussion with myself. If this goes into my top 20 animated films ever, because it's just so much fun and because it's so much fun because the characters are so good and also the music, I think if you remove the music for sure, then obviously you know it's just remove the music for sure. Then obviously you know they just like a straightforward, you know demon hunting type film. Obviously that that removes a lot of it. But when it comes to like how it made me feel and how much I'm still thinking about it now, that that's when I'm like is this like one of my favorites ever, you know. So we'll see. We'll revisit that come end of the year awards and see how things go. But yeah, I gave I have it at a 4.5 right now and let's see as far as I'll go over it in a second after your rating. But yeah, where do you have it, eric?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then let's talk about where that lands for your films of the year. It's got to be one or two, I'm assuming, so we'll talk about that in a minute, but I want to talk about my original rating and then where I am now. My original rating when I walked out of this because of the problems I kind of had with some of the plot stuff, um, I was really thinking a three and a half is probably where it would sit, which is a movie that I I like, I enjoyed, and if it was on, I would watch it again. But what I found myself doing not just because of the craze around the movie but also my, my genuine feelings towards the film, despite my issues with the plot and I don't see a world where I go higher than this score I think I got to bump it up to a four, because this is also a movie I think I would do a watch party for, which is literally the way I define a four in my book. So I bumped it up to a four, pretty much on a second watch.
Speaker 1:I haven't fully watched it through, but I've seen enough of it through clips and my family watching it while I've been busy doing some work and I'm just like, yeah, it's a four and I would solidify that on a second watch. I'm happy with that score. I think it could go up if there are sequels that flesh out the world a little bit more, that make that first film feel like a part of something. But just judging it off of one film, what they gave me uh a four is where I landed phil, and I will throw out where it landed for me on both my international feature list and the 2025 films. This year in international feature I gave this uh a four, so it's going to go up to seven as my highest rated four, right under a four and a half, which is high nana at six and right above ultraman rising and you know I really loved ultraman rising like slightly I would honestly say ultraman rising.
Speaker 1:Hopefully we see you again oh, it hurts, hurts my heart. I don't even want to talk about it, but I will say I thought they were more 1a, 1b, but I I do think k-pop demon hunters, because of the music, has just another replayability factor that ultra man rising just doesn't. And they're very similar. And as far as my pain points around plot for 2025 films, this is the number five film out of 18 at the moment. Uh, right behind sinners, warfare, neja 2 and companion, all also listed at a four. So, upon a rewatch, k-pop demon hunters, as of this moment, does have a shot to get to number one and I wouldn't be mad if that's where it stayed.
Speaker 1:I'd love to see a four and a half or five movie this year. I hope that happens, but we're already halfway through the year. I don't know if that's going to happen. I don't know if we're going to get a Godzilla minus one or a Dune part two. So, phil, where did K-pop Demon Hunters land for you? For 2025 films, and again, the international feature list yeah, first for international feature.
Speaker 2:it has skyrocketed to number four for me, right behind banshees of inishirin and um, in front of past lives, um, which also all have both have four and a half as well. So, as far as the company it's keeping um, it's right there. Uh, memories of murder. You know some films like that. So, number four on the international feature list and, yeah, number two right now on my 2025 ranked list, behind Sinners and in front of Companion. You didn't give Sinners a five, I gave Sinners a five.
Speaker 2:No, no I know, that's what this episode about.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's OK. It's OK, I am going to rewatch it. I do believe it. I do believe on a rewatch it could be a four and a half. It's the vampire stuff, man, the vampire stuff is the least interesting thing about that film and it's not a problem. No, I listen, I might feel differently. It's not a problem. I'm just saying to me it was the least interesting thing about the film and when it takes that turn, I just I like I dipped a toe out. I was like I'm still in it, but a toe did come out and I have to acknowledge that with a four, I think upon a rewatch it could vault to a four and a half.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I don't believe it's going to get to a five. I would have to feel significantly different and we're talking minimal. If it gets to a four and a half. There's very minimal gripes that I'll be able to solidify a little bit more on that, uh, on that rewatch. But again, one of my favorite films of the year loved it and I do want to rewatch it and I, when I say I want, I will be rewatching it to solidify that score. So I am giving it a commitment. I don't always give movies, which is that second watch through Cause. I really think it's probably a four and a half yeah, and you know me with with that supernatural stuff.
Speaker 2:You know that has me bought in. So three of my top five films are animated with k-pop nasia and the day the earth blew up, which is that looney tunes movie remember that we saw a random trailer for and we're like what the hell was that fun time man now also granted I mean that's a three and a half. So so, like after Neja, you know there's a lot of three and a halves. I think we need to rewatch Friendship because it might go up.
Speaker 1:I know it might. I think you're touching your cable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just saw it, that's okay we might have to.
Speaker 1:We might have to.
Speaker 2:Went to a subway went to a subway, the frog ripped me off we probably yeah, we probably need to re-watch that man.
Speaker 1:We're just not gonna agree on how to train your dragon 28 years later, man, I've just had such mixed feelings since leaving the theater I don't want to watch materialists you knew not to yeah you knew not to and, honestly, when everybody was excited about the trailer, I was like I don't know if this looks good I just ignored dakota johnson, so which is also that movie isn't a love triangle, just so you guys know.
Speaker 2:For anyone who hasn't seen materialist, it is not a, it's barely a rom-com. So actually it's not even com there's. It's not funny. There's nothing funny in Materialist.
Speaker 1:I feel bad, considering the. This is Celine Song's second film in her first one.
Speaker 2:I know it's kind of crazy. That's why I was like, oh, this is, I trust Celine and she, she burned me well, you know what she probably got the bag for doing this film.
Speaker 1:I would assume good for her, but I think this movie was also very badly marketed.
Speaker 2:Uh as 100. Yeah, yeah, very bad.
Speaker 1:You just thought we have we have pedro pascal and chris evans and, I think, people like dakota johnson, so that'll be enough I don't know why.
Speaker 2:We're're also going to have to have a conversation about Chris Evans soon. Very soon, yes, outside of the Avengers and Knives Out.
Speaker 1:He'll be Captain America within the year, so it's not a big deal. He's already halfway there.
Speaker 2:Probably next year.
Speaker 1:But yeah, guys, that was our episode on K-pop for the spoiler-free portion. We will be actively talking spoilers, so those of you that have been waiting patiently, get out.
Speaker 2:we'll get excited out and those of you that have not seen it leave, leave, leave and come back k-pop demon hunters spoilers phil.
Speaker 1:what is the first spoiler discussion you would like to have with this? Because as much as we have told each other we've enjoyed the movie, we've talked about the movie, the songs, songs we haven't really discussed it. So some of those pain points I mentioned you're hearing for the first time, same with you. So any spoilers you want to talk about, we kind of both agreed on Selene, so maybe, if we want to start there, I think that was probably the biggest miss of the movie, because I just don't understand why we only see her in several flashbacks, some of them the same flashbacks, and then she has to have a conversation with roomie and at this pretty, a pretty important moment it seems like I don't give a fuck who that character is so like. Maybe maybe you could tell me in a gentler way how you felt about it, because it actually made me a little mad. I was like this is not the character we should be doing this with yeah, because it's not like you see them interact with her in real time.
Speaker 2:It's all flashbacks. And then, like where is this tree? Like where, where is this area? At how far did she have to like go, go to get there? You know? Um, so I have a tough time like choosing, because if you're going to add, if you're going to add 15 to 20 minutes to this, where would I rather have it allocated? Celine, who I didn't really care about, or Genie, and I think it would be much, much better spent on Genie.
Speaker 2:There was a scene where they went on like an aquarium quote-unquote date that was cut from the film and I believe they kissed there and I am okay that that never happened in the film.
Speaker 2:Uh, it's kind of very similar to um, something we was, something we talked about recently that never. Oh, when we talked about the last of us spoiler, like when when joel in the tv show tells ellie I love you, like that doesn't Joel in the TV show tells Ellie I love you, like that doesn't happen in the game because it's an unspoken, known thing and I liked it that way. So I would rather it be more focused on Jinu. It didn't necessarily have to be more focused on the flashback, but maybe just fleshing out that character and that relationship a little bit more, or at least a combination. You know, 10 minutes here, 10 minutes there. You know like it's pretty easy to have not easy, I don't want to say easy, but it's pretty um easy to like lose track of where that time goes. But like, if you want to allocate it to genu, I would be totally fine with that yeah, uh, gima could have had like a flashback of like him at his strength just seemed like a missed opportunity to make him a cool looking villain.
Speaker 1:You know, like animation wise or like and again, I'm sure they don't they didn't make this with the anticipation of sequels and like a franchise, but like showing what he looked like at, like his strength. I don't believe they did that. That would have been really cool to see that he has like this, like, look like you know, voldemort is the back of some guy's head and then he's just talked about until he shows up and fucks shit up and he looks cool as hell.
Speaker 2:Something like that where, like we saw Asia too earlier in the year. Like there were cool designs in Asia, it would have been cool.
Speaker 1:So that was my main gripe. I don't think I would have wanted to see a kiss, but a date maybe could have helped with the roomie uh, or the roomie stuff and the relationship uh with Juno I, with Genu I. I have the biggest issue with, like I liked the twist that he gave up on his family, but when they did it we just kind of kept moving along and I would have liked to know, like why do we want to redeem this character? Like that's a pretty shitty thing to do. We kind of gloss over that because we like him so much and I guess that's not inherently bad, because again, I fell for it. But like yeah, he abandoned his family selfishly and it didn't seem like he had to do that and I know he's suffering for that decision and that's why he's doing all of this.
Speaker 1:But is that enough to forgive someone? I don't know. I feel like there was a little bit of a gray area there that we didn't really explore. That I would have found to be more interesting to explore. Obviously I'm wrong, because we all forgave him and we want him back. But again, what the fuck am I even saying?
Speaker 2:well, he's hot. So what do you? What does it matter?
Speaker 1:he can do anything sing his fucking ass off, man and dance.
Speaker 2:Very charming so philip philip gave me, gave me this really interesting theory she had before they went the romance route. I want to share with you. Flynn, shout out to Read it and Read Podcast, her and Jordan. She had assumed that maybe Rumi was the sister that he had abandoned all that time ago and she was part demon. And then, years later, they had remembered who each other were and that's why the sacrifice would have been a little bit different later.
Speaker 1:How would we have explained that time-wise?
Speaker 2:Because someone also Well, he's 400 years old.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but why would she be?
Speaker 2:Because she's part demon.
Speaker 1:No, that doesn't make sense, because I mean she's part demon, but there would have had to be some aging thing going on there.
Speaker 2:I guess we didn't know when she knew Well, because Genu didn't age.
Speaker 1:Oh well, but she would have been. No, she was part demon from birth.
Speaker 2:Right, right, yeah, yeah, I'm just like. That's just like. Obviously there's holes in the theory, but that's what she.
Speaker 1:There was like a misconception Someone had also mentioned that he would be her dad. When they first watched it, they thought that was it too and I was like no, I think they. They pretty much let you know we were going to get romantic pretty quickly. So it would have been a weird swerve to like I don't know, go old boy here or something, I don't know that would have been. Oh my god that would have been crazy, uh, spoilers for old.
Speaker 2:Take a shot, tell you what? But uh, and not just because we bring up old boy a lot, just take, take a shot, thinking about Oldboy.
Speaker 1:That's one of those movies. I think you know how we feel about people that, like Taxi Driver, I wonder if we are those people for Oldboy, because we know.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I don't ever want to watch Oldboy again, I know but we both rated it very high I know I'm higher on it than you are. That's true.
Speaker 1:But yeah, no, maybe we're those people to that audience. Yeah, so again, interesting theory, wrong, but interesting theory, and I got to say that those were probably my two biggest issues that I really wanted to explain other than what I said earlier. Those are probably my two biggest. If you fix both of those for me, we probably get somewhere. Like, when we talk about the world building, we talked about gima would have loved to see a little bit more about, like, what the tiger has to do with all this. The tiger was so interesting of a character, just like from design to the way it acted.
Speaker 1:I would have loved more of that and the uh, the raven crow, raven crow I. I would have loved more of that and the raven.
Speaker 2:Crow, Raven Crow, I think yeah.
Speaker 1:Would have liked to know a little bit more about that. Why does the crow wear a little hat.
Speaker 2:I made it for the tiger, but the bird keeps taking it.
Speaker 1:I would have liked a little bit more of them to be in it as well, and then again just a little bit more information about the lore and some of these things. Um, again, they wanted to keep some of the mystery aspect there. That's perfectly fine. I think this movie lends itself pretty nicely to a sequel without necessarily having to do that, but I think they've definitely opened the door. So I want to know where your thought, unless you have any other things you wanted to talk about from a spoiler perspective. I want to know where your thought, unless you have any other things you wanted to talk about from a spoiler perspective. We did just talk about negatives. If there was anything from a positive you wanted to throw out there, I mean again, what it sounds like is fantastic. That movie, that song, makes me want to cry.
Speaker 2:Again, like you said, crescendo is such, you know, that's just the way that, the best way to explain it. Because again, I wish so bad that we could have seen that in theaters. And you know there is again, take a shot, because, like that whole ending sequence in puss in boots, the last wish is so good. And if you would, just if gima is a little bit more menacing and he's not just like smoke and fire, then it, I think this elevates it for me to a five. But because, but also because you know, combining that with the music, which is also outstanding, and them coming together, and then you get in the beat drop and stuff. I've seen DJs playing this in the club and stuff. It's outstanding. So, yeah, I cannot wait to see where this goes.
Speaker 2:So I don't want a sequel to this with these same characters, because I don't want Sony or somebody to come in or some executive to be like you got to bring Gnu back. Like this is a really bad example. But remember when in Wonder Woman 84, they just brought Chris Pine back for no fucking reason, just to have Chris Pine in the movie. Obviously, this is totally different, but it's like you're going to make him some force ghost. I don't want it.
Speaker 1:No, I don't want it. No, I'm going to push back there because that's a horrible example for a fucking awful movie. I can't believe you're making me think about that movie right now.
Speaker 2:We rented a theater. For it, we paid a lot of money.
Speaker 1:Stop saying that. Don't tell people that that happened.
Speaker 2:It was the only time we did it during the pandemic.
Speaker 1:What are those like Really quick, quick pivot? What are those like really quick, quick pivot? What are those like regretful? There's a couple. We went to see bruno at midnight.
Speaker 1:We don't like to tell people that I do believe the worst movie I've ever seen. I do think to this day I did give it, I think, my only half star. I think it's the only half star movie I've issued on letterboxd. Our other regret that's another regret, uh, which is more recent wonder woman 84 rented out a theater for that. What are those other like shameful regrets that we have that we don't tell people? I mean, obviously I have, like I bought Back 4 Blood for $100. Yeah, I feel like on the spot we can't think of too many, but there definitely are a few we could definitely do like a full Patreon exclusive episode about it.
Speaker 2:I'm sure I have. I know I have a lot of purchases, regretful, but yeah, in terms of like I can't think of any other. Those are the two cinematic experiences where we're like why did we do that? Yeah, at very different times in our lives, dude one where we should have been way more way more responsible at the like the, the wonder woman part, yeah, yeah, and the bruno thing you could kind of like serve that up to us being.
Speaker 1:We had just seen One where we should have been way more responsible at the Wonder Woman part. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And the Bruno thing. You can kind of like serve that up to us. Being young. We had just seen Borat. We had just seen Borat for the first time. So we were like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And it was around the spinning dick that I was like this is the same movie.
Speaker 2:People actively walked out of that film and we should have followed suit.
Speaker 1:We were like frozen in our seats. But anyway, anyway, let's, uh, let's get back on track. Uh, I hate to tell you, uh, he's coming back and like it's also not even like, it's also not even like hidden. Very well, as far as, like they're telling you he's coming back, I think the mythology and the supernaturalness of this world lends itself for him. I mean, I guess you got to bring all the the. I don't want all the sadja boys to come back, unless they're going to get fleshed out.
Speaker 2:So like, maybe just bring him back, but oh yeah I don't know, I say bring them all back there is a scene when they go visit the doctor where he had. There they focus on a photo with the doctor and four idol k-pop idols, and the theory is that those are the Saja boys, and they also came into some sort of agreement, of course, with Gima. So they do plant that A little bit and, yeah, like you said, as far as the supernatural aspect of it, it does lend itself to just coming back. But yeah, I'll revert to this, this comment from Instagram that Maggie Kang commented on and subtweeted on Twitter. It says when you realize that's the life we live in, by the way, here's an Instagram comment that was retweeted on Twitter. I'm going to or we live in a simulation. The comment says when you realize Rumi was probably Talking about, genu Was probably his first, last and greatest love.
Speaker 2:She was the only thing that made him realize he could be selfless. His guilt and shame for being selfish punished him for 400 years. His death wasn't just his freedom. For the first time in his life, he got the chance to be selfless. He sacrificed himself to save her and the world. He saved the world without the soul that he thought was his greatest misery. He's finally free and she was his freedom. And then she commented did they write our movie? So yeah, I mean, obviously, my first thing here is I don't want him to come back and I don't think that these specific characters should be in a sequel. If you want to explore this world out, maybe with different characters, I'm totally down for that. What I definitely don't want to happen is in two years there's a Netflix TV show and the animation is budget is one third of what we get here, and that's what really scares me.
Speaker 1:I'm not interested in that. I'm interested in a sequel with these characters. I think that it's ripe for the taking. I think they can make it work. I think there's more to tell in this story. I think they left it up. I want to see more of these characters. I don't know that you can have a K-pop Demon Hunters movie where you like spin off to a new set of K-pop artists without acknowledging the other K-pop artists within that world, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Could this be like a Charlie's?
Speaker 1:Angels kind of thing where there's new characters every once in a while Maybe, but I just don't think there's the same type of money in that, and I also think you have developed something really special with this set of characters with your audience. So I feel like you have to capitalize on that. In my opinion. I think you definitely do. I would love to see more with these girls. Again, I would have loved to see another 20 minutes to this film, so that should let you know I'm itching to see more, just in general, with this particular story and this particular set of characters. So that's kind of where I stand. I think you're coming more from a place of you don't want them to fuck it up, which is totally respectable, but I think deep down, you also would enjoy and want to see another version of this done very well, just like everybody else would.
Speaker 2:So do you want to see the Saja boys do their military, their military stint? Is that what you're saying? No, that's not exactly what I'm saying Also side note if these characters come to Fortnite, I'm buying all three. Give me Genu, give me Derpy as a, as a glider. I want, I want it all. I'll spend stupid amounts of money, Just like I'm going to spend stupid amounts of money on whatever we find at Infinity Con here in a couple.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I mean, listen man, netflix has to really strike on this one. They have dropped the ball on a lot of different, especially with animation.
Speaker 2:Nimona.
Speaker 1:Nimona, but they dropped the ball on a lot. But like I don't know, this one is different man, this one is like this is one of the academy Acknowledge them. Listen, this is one of those movies that comes out for like a Netflix, and it's different. It just hit different. They tend to capitalize on these type of global phenomenon hits where like again, I enjoyed ultra man rising yeah, I enjoyed ultra man rising not wide appeal.
Speaker 1:There again, they basically shadow dropped that on netflix. It also felt like I think that was something we said when the episode came out. It did, I think, pretty well like, but I obviously not, because they're probably not going to do a sequel to that. So it wasn't anywhere near this. Obviously it had a little bit of buzz. This movie I mean the whole world is talking about it, it feels like. So netflix typically capitalizes on those and I think they're going to do that here just because, again, it's I'm gonna assume, safely a money maker for them and at the end of the day, that's their bottom line.
Speaker 2:So they gotta release this thing in theaters, man. They gotta do a theater run, a theatrical run with this, maybe, maybe over the holidays, to get people talking about it again. I think it would be a really, really smart idea. Although when is the demon hunter movie come out? I mean demon hunter, demon Hunter, demon.
Speaker 1:Slayer Demon Slayer is within the next couple months here.
Speaker 2:Okay, I wouldn't want to compete with.
Speaker 1:Demon Slayer.
Speaker 2:I need to do a video on that because that fucking trailer dude. Holy shit, I started watching I was like, oh, I can't watch this.
Speaker 1:Dude, this movie is going to make so much money. I mean you could, you could. I mean it's just going to give you an idea of who's going to be fighting in the movie. You also don't really know what's happening actually, now that I know, I don't know why.
Speaker 2:Because, yeah, because I accidentally started watching season five. I was like who the fuck are these people? So, anyway, but one of the funniest things I saw because, again, the Academy tweeted about this and somebody subtweeted and was like, oh, we found a movie that the Academy Great about this. And somebody subtweeted and was like, oh, we found a movie that the academy great awesome. So I swear to god, if there is some sort of fucking flow movie that comes out this year and steals best animated picture from this movie, I will riot, I will be so mad.
Speaker 1:Well, hold on. So let's talk about it right, because I don't know if they're going to nominate it, but Neja 2 and K-Pop right now are the frontrunners right, that's right, so would they give it to K-Pop over Neja.
Speaker 2:I think the Looney Tunes movie will be nominated as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's like a they have a spot to fill type of movie. Respectfully, Respectfully.
Speaker 2:No, no, I agree. I agree, I agree I just think it's going to get a nomination. It's very, it's very well and it's it's a great animation.
Speaker 1:Too well they put it's a lot of fun, but I do think it will get what?
Speaker 2:because it's Looney Tunes? I don't think so. No, no, because the thing about Netflix is also, they're dropping animated movies all the time. They just don't tell you. If you open up Netflix and you're like, oh shit, what is this? Looks, looks kind of cool. So what is there? Another big-time animated movie coming out in 2025, another Disney film? I don't think so right.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to animated films 2025 bad guys 2 is coming out, um, so I mean, if that movie actually turns out to be good, animation wise oh shit is.
Speaker 2:Is the predator movie gonna be?
Speaker 1:eligible. I mean, it was an animation, so they're doing it. They did an animation that just came out on Hulu, and then they are doing the theatrical live. So yeah, I mean that could be Interesting. That doesn't seem like a movie that would make a lot of push. They're not going to give it to I mean, they're not going to do it to Demon Slayer. I don't think they would even consider that no would even consider that no, probably not. Not chainsaw man, uh, elio, elio might get it because of the pixar push.
Speaker 2:But it's not gonna win. I think it'll get nominated. Maybe even some of those, even some of those other films from the past disney years have gotten nominated that we didn't like yeah, k-pop demon hunters winning would be nuts yeah because nomona was nominated for. So they have skin in the game when it comes to Netflix and animated films.
Speaker 1:So yeah, predator, killer of Killers would probably count. I don't think that's it that good, yeah, I think, I think those are probably, I think, for the rest, of the year, bringing Rihanna out of retirement when does Oscar end? Because Zootopia 2 comes out end of November.
Speaker 2:Shit, that's what it is.
Speaker 1:That's what it's going to be right.
Speaker 2:Swear to God.
Speaker 1:They love giving it to Disney.
Speaker 2:And Zootopia because it's about racism. Oh, the Lions was black people.
Speaker 1:Love doing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't. The oscars are held in march.
Speaker 1:November's tough man that movie's gonna be any good. Oh, the general entry and best picture submission deadline is thursday, november 14th. I think zootopia will miss that okay, the 26th, yeah, preliminary voting begins december 9th.
Speaker 1:Through the 13th Nomination voting is January 8th. So, yeah, I think it's going to barely miss that. I mean, it has a shot regardless, but if Zootopia is not in it and Nasia doesn't get nominated cause I don't know if it got, I can't remember if it got nominated last time I think it will, though. Yeah, it's going to be tough. It's going to be tough.
Speaker 2:Well, clearly there was a lot to talk about. Yeah, Because this film is again taking the world by storm, Not just US audiences or Korean audiences. Everybody is doing the dances, singing the songs. My daughter went on TikTok immediately and made an edit about Jinwoo and Rumi Makes sense.
Speaker 2:That did numbers, so it is outstanding. If you are still here for some reason and you didn't watch the movie, please go watch it right away. But those of you that stuck around and you're part of the Huntrix tribe, did they have a thing? Because you know, obviously there's like the, there's the army and then, like other people, what did Huntrix haverix have a thing? The Saja Boys were the pride Was.
Speaker 1:Huntrix. Wasn't it on the shirt.
Speaker 2:I know their logo is the four-sided thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I could have sworn they had something on the shirt I can't remember.
Speaker 2:I love you. Huntrix, that's who I'm going to cosplay as, by the way, the guy that just rips off his shirt and has a Huntrix t-shirt on. I thought you meant that you were going to get the Huntrix tattoo.
Speaker 1:Maybe, but yeah, no, I think we're ready to wrap this one up. This was a great episode. Again, shout out to Phil for really pushing this one, and you know we talked a lot about why, even though this is not really a film that needed to be featured and also technically not an international film as far as the you know, uh, sony pictures release, there was a lot that fit what we like to do in this episode and ultimately, I mean like we want to talk about movies that we really enjoyed. And I gotta say, phil, you know the last couple episodes the girl who leapt through time we enjoyed. It had some issues with it. I'm still here. Same thing. The first slam dunk, probably a step back. So it was nice to get into a movie that you know we really enjoyed because we have perfect days to start the year Amelia Perez which we don't really have to say much there.
Speaker 2:I don't have to talk about that.
Speaker 1:See, yeah, between this and Naysha, these have been like the highlights of the year and I'm glad that we were able to feature them on the podcast because, again, we were going to talk about it anyway and, for those of you that for some reason didn't watch it, it was also for you to to understand. Like, if you trust our, our take on this, you're missing out, like you really should check out this movie and it's it's not one to miss 100%.
Speaker 2:Every once in a while, netflix reminds you why you're paying $30 for one screen, so we appreciate that, even though I don't know where all our money is going, because they don't put it in marketing, that is for damn sure. So if you enjoyed this episode, if you're new, or if you just need a reminder as to where to find everything you need wait for it, a podcast related. It will be in the link tree link in the show notes of this and every single episode. We release episodes every single week, so there's plenty of stuff for you to go back and binge. We are a very bingeable show.
Speaker 2:I will say that we talked about that a couple of weeks ago, a couple of days ago. Very bingeable show, so we have a lot of fun over here. If you a lot of fun over here, if you want to keep up with us over on social media Instagram, tiktok, our growing Discord community, as well as over on Twitch, where we are streaming quite a bit and we'll be continuing to do so throughout the entire year, so make sure you check us out over there. Also, make sure to follow our personal pages for myself as well as Eric, as we navigate both of our journeys, professionally and personally. We would very much appreciate that support too. But if you maybe find yourself wanting to get some more wait for a podcast, if you want the episodes super early and if you want an idea of what episodes are going to come in the future, way early, eric will let you know how you can get access to all of that before wrapping us up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you could join our Patreon where patrons of the show Bri wrapping us up. Yeah, so you could join our Patreon where patrons of the show Briar T3, kato Vintage, macaroni, corey from the World is my Burrito and Nick Casbaro, the author of the Vidalarium series, are supporting us each month and, in return, getting some of those exclusive perks that you can only get on that platform through us. We're really excited to continue to build that platform, as we've mentioned multiple times at the end of each episode. It's great if you support us there, but if you're unable to all the free stuff really goes a long way and we really appreciate it. We also appreciate you listening to the end of this episode, but it is the end and, with all that being said, my name is Mr Eric Almighty, that is my co-host, phil the Filipino, and, please don't forget, we release new episodes for the podcast every Wednesday and all you gotta do is wait for it this is the wait for it podcast.
