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Late To The Party - The Devil Wears Prada
Eric and Phil explore 2006's The Devil Wears Prada, diving into the powerhouse performances of Meryl Streep, Anne Hathaway, Emily Blunt, and Stanley Tucci in this psychological examination of work-life balance and personal transformation.
• Meryl Streep delivers an iconic performance as Miranda Priestly that earned an Oscar nomination and remains quoted to this day
• The film isn't just about fashion but serves as a character study of ambition and authenticity
• Strong feminist themes emerge naturally through character development rather than heavy-handed messaging
• The relationship between Andy and her boyfriend, Nate, remains a hotly debated topic among fans
• Stanley Tucci steals every scene he's in with perfect comedic timing and emotional depth
• The film's rushed ending leaves some character development unresolved
• Discussion of the upcoming sequel and whether it's necessary given how well the original stands on its own
• Both hosts give the film high ratings with Phil considering it one of his favorite films of all time
Letterbox'd Synopsis: Andy moves to New York to work in the fashion industry. Her boss is extremely demanding, cruel and won’t let her succeed if she doesn’t fit into the high class elegant look of their magazine.
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Speaker 2:This is the Wait For it Podcast. Hey, everyone, welcome back to the Wait For it Podcast. I'm your co-host, phil Barrera, aka Phil the Filipino.
Speaker 1:And I'm your other co-host, mr Eric Almighty, and for this edition of Late to the Party. We are going to a film that Phil has been talking about for quite some time, and when I brought up Pretty Woman, I got the same look that he probably was expecting. When the Devil Wears Prada came up, vice versa happened, phil. Here we are now to talk about the Devil Wears Prada.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is a movie I actually just watched for the first time last year and we'll kind of talk about like why maybe it took us so long to watch this. I mean it came out in 2006. So and it is, it is talked about still to this day because of the performances. There is a sequel on the way. We'll probably discuss whether or not that needs to exist. But all in all, I am excited to talk about what is very quickly probably becoming one of my favorite films ever.
Speaker 2:It is I did rewatch it here today and Eric it is fresh on his mind as well. So very, very excited to jump into this one here. Eric, I have gone into this blind as far as your score. I have avoided the letterbox leading into this because, like, we always just spoil it because we know what our score is before going into these conversations. So I really will probably only do that if I think we both hated something. So I don't know how this is going to go. I'm very nervous, as should the internet be, so we'll see how this conversation goes.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Why are you scared?
Speaker 2:I don't know. You know why? Because we're reaching we're close to Goodfellas levels with this movie. If you don't like it, I'm going to be very upset.
Speaker 1:I mean, I hear what you're saying. You act like I hated Goodfellas. I gave Goodfellas a three and a half.
Speaker 2:I know, but I was saying I was nervous that you wouldn't like Goodfellas, oh, okay.
Speaker 1:I've already been accused of a lot of different scores today on Discord, so I'm just, I'm a little, I'm a little sensitive.
Speaker 2:You did put Adventures of Tintin at like number three on like a top five list for Super Bracket Bros or something like that.
Speaker 1:That was a blind ranking. That was a blind ranking. You can't hold that against me. You put Tintin too low.
Speaker 2:You didn't do great on that. At least your number one was good. I won't spoil it, but at least your number one was solid. But two through five was a mess.
Speaker 1:No, it was a whole nightmare. I was so scared the entire time. My worst nightmares were lived in real life. But, Phil, I mean, what's to be worried about here? I'm like the biggest fashion guy you know.
Speaker 2:So this is a movie for me.
Speaker 2:Me too, absolutely. I had to decide which color of black t-shirt to wear under my flannel here today, so it was a discussion to be had. But there are so many more layers to this film than just fashion, which is probably one of the reasons why we may have avoided it for so long. But we're going to be talking about the 2006 film the Devil Wears Prada here on the September edition of Late to the Party. So if you want to know where you can find all the rest of our content maybe any other films or TV shows we just missed out on make sure you stick around to the very end of the episode and we'll let you know where you can find all of that. But let's get into a synopsis here.
Speaker 2:As always, eric with the Devil Wears Prada follows Andy Sachs, a young, aspiring journalist who lands a job as assistant to Miranda Priestley, the ruthless and impossibly demanding editor-in-chief of a high-fashion magazine. As Andy struggles to survive Miranda's world of glamour, pleasure and impossible standards, she's forced to choose between staying true to herself or transforming into someone she barely recognizes. So if you are, for some reason, maybe you missed some of the episodes in August. We have adopted a new format here on the WayForward Podcast. For these episodes, we each choose three takeaways, positive or negative, and we kind of just break those down for whichever ones we want to bring up. So, eric, I will throw it to you first, because this is newer to you. We both, again, have watched it very recently, but I want to know where you would like to start.
Speaker 1:Well, let's start with my overall feeling of the film so we can really set the tone for this episode. I really enjoyed the movie. I enjoyed the movie. So you know, there's really one thing you got to start the conversation with when we talk about the Devil Wears Prada and I'm happy to take the low-hanging fruit here.
Speaker 1:Meryl Streep, anne Hathaway, emily Blunt, stanley Tucci all four of them great, great, but especially obviously our main focus being Meryl Streep. Anne Hathaway I'm not we talked about this with Julia Roberts. I'm not a big aficionado into Meryl Streep films. I know she's considered this great actress. Same way, julia Roberts is really on another level, even we would say for Meryl Streep, and I never really understood the height with her. The only films I had seen her in is like a cameo here or like Mamma Mia, which should not be a judge of any of those actors or actresses' performances. I loved her. She was really great in this film and I can see it. I get it.
Speaker 1:Anne Hathaway film this is in that time frame of Princess Diaries, ella Enchanted. She plays that fish out of water so well around that time and then she just eventually moved on with her career. But this was like, I think on the exit point, or towards the exit point, of that role for her, from what I could tell and I mean that just works with her, she's just really good at it. So there are some things we're going to talk about. You know, I would have loved to see a little bit more Emily Blunt, a little bit more Stanley Tucci, but what we did get between the four of them, especially the core group here, very, very good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, meryl Streep is an absolute powerhouse in this. She is outstanding. I am the same way. I also am not too familiar with many of her performances, although, coming away from this after the first time I watched it very similar to like this Julia Roberts era you're entering in. Like we got to watch more Meryl Streep stuff. So she is absolutely fantastic, earned her an Oscar nomination. Her performance is still, and mannerisms are still quoted and mimicked to this day, so she is absolutely awesome. I would like to know, like, how do you feel about Miranda Priestly, the character as far as is she one of like like the best cinematic villains? Is she just doing her job? Is she misunderstood? Is it a combination of all of those things? Where did you come away from the Miranda Priestly of it all and how do you feel about her?
Speaker 1:so that was really interesting because, like I didn't really view her as a villain, honestly, I just I kind of took a lot of her character elements and they were just all being shoved into this story, like different shades of her being a mother, being a wife, being a boss, like all of these little roles. I would have loved to see maybe some of them explored a little bit deeper, obviously, but given the runtime, I really liked what we did get from her, where I didn't feel like we were trying to overly humanize her or we were trying to forgive her for her the way she behaves, but at the same time you got a little bit more of an understanding of who this person is and it's not just a straightforward, she's just an evil person type situation. So you know, I really liked all of that when it came to her character.
Speaker 2:Yeah, certainly not as just kind of like surface level terrible person. I think that a lot of people maybe expect going into this. I'm so glad you brought up stanley tucci man. Talk about someone who just knocks it out of the park. I don't think we've ever seen a bad stanley tucci performance. I don't think I've ever seen that man has been. That man has been in conclave. He's obviously amazing in this. He is in. He's this hot dad in easy a like what the hell, stanley Tucci? What gives you the right? How dare you Listen?
Speaker 1:how dare you? How dare you Listen? Stanley Tucci is great, I think. At the very least, he is never below average, Like I. Just I don't think I've seen a bad Stanley Choo Choo performance. I don't know that he's always the strongest performance, but like I also loved him in like the terminal. So like you can pull out so many, you can pull out so many different movies and roles that he's been in that he either knocks out of the park or he's just extremely serviceable. But yeah, I don't think I've ever seen a bad performance from him, at least not that I know of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he is fantastic and I totally agree with you, would have loved to see more of Emily Blunt and you know we we will in sequel, so we'll see how that goes. But, eric, my next takeaway is something we kind of alluded to already in the beginning of the film or the episode is that this is not necessarily a fashion movie and I always thought this was very fashion centric. Obviously it is at the core of everything that is going on between these characters, but it's not like it takes you aside and gives you lore about Dolce Gabbana or Gucci I'm just throwing out names that I don't even know Fashion things, fashion terminology. This is not a fashion movie and I want to shout out a video I watched from YouTube, from Savage Books, literary Editing the Devil Wears Prada is a psychological thriller and the themes that it attacks and the characterization that it goes through, as far as molding Andy and from her journey from point A to point B and dealing with this boss who is obviously very demanding, and it is affecting her personal life and everything like that.
Speaker 2:It's not a psychological thriller in the sense that, like, obviously it's like terrifying, but it is affecting her personal life and everything like that. It's not a psychological thriller in the sense that like obviously it's like terrifying, but it is a really interesting character, study into work, life, culture and and all of that. So one of the reasons again that I kind of stayed away from this movie is I thought it was going to be very fashion centric and it's not necessarily that type of movie. So yeah, and what do you think about that psychological thriller? The devil wears? What do you think about that Psychological thriller the Devil Wears?
Speaker 1:Prada yeah, no, that kind of works, because a lot of the reviews I was reading is really encompassed by this one very quick sentence. This is just the fashion version of Whiplash.
Speaker 2:Yes, he brought that up in the video. He brought that up in the video. I was like I got to watch Whiplash and juxtapose these films. I'm very excited.
Speaker 1:Whiplash- is great. Honestly, I keep forgetting you haven't seen Whiplash and it is going to have to be very quickly a turnaround on this podcast. Whiplash is fantastic. I definitely saw a lot of elements of that when it came to just like the mental abuse that was taking place, but all in the betterment of somebody in a way, or at least somebody's belief of what a betterment of someone else's life would be, and that's just really compelling to watch.
Speaker 1:Your second point is kind of like mine, which was going to be that I thought I'd get lost in the fashion terminology. You are right, they didn't really explain a lot of the lore. I think they made it pretty comfortable of a landing for someone who doesn't understand the fashion world to kind of understand what they were aiming for in explaining like these are the things in the fashion industry that you might experience or that might be happening, and its commentary on that wasn't overwhelming or bogged down with all of the jargon in fashion. So my second takeaway was actually going to be that this movie made it very digestible and it didn't sacrifice, at least for me again, as someone who has zero fashion sense, someone can correct me but it didn't feel like this movie was sacrificing its love, its passion, its dedication to showing off fashion in that world, for a general audience and their digestion of it. I didn't feel like there was a lot of compromise there, and that was a good thing there and that was a good thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100. The fashion of it all is used essentially as a you know, like this, this visual companion on andy's journey to show, like, as she's continuing to like, buy into this more and more, and then it all, kind of like, culminates at the very end where, like, stanley tucci compliments her on the outfit that she has put together, which is just such a great scene. God, stanley Tucci, damn that guy's good. This podcast is actually just about Stanley Tucci now going forward. So, yeah, but I definitely agree as far as the not getting lost in the fashion world of it all. It's very interesting because there is another movie that Anne Hathaway is in, called the Intern, with Robert De Niro, where she is also in the fashion world, but she is the Miranda Pricely in this, but very, very sweet, she's very nice and kind. So if I had two movies, you know, if I had nickels for every time Anne Hathaway, you know, was in some sort of fashion role, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot of nickels, but it's weird that it's happened twice. So, the intern, very good movie. It won't ever pop up on this series, but the intern also very good.
Speaker 2:But yeah, let's get to our second point here, eric and listen, two dudes, two straight cis men, probably not the best people to talk about the exploration of and like the healthy way that feminism is brought up in this movie. But it was for one thing again that I saw in a lot, of, a lot of reviews and also what this video brought up that I watched over on youtube. I'll link it in the in the description is it was like it was feminism in the sense that like it wasn't like lazy, like we've seen in, like Wonder Woman 84 or like remember the scene in Avengers Endgame where all the heroes come together and like she's got help, like all that, all of that like terror, like really just lazy writing. They put it in the sense that like you could have put this somewhere else in terms of you could have not had this in the fashion industry, place these characters in a different setting, and it would have had a very similar effect. And also, you could also have had this be about male characters as well and the story could have some sort of general similar impact in a different setting, and I really really like that.
Speaker 2:Again, are we the most qualified people to talk about that? But definitely not. But because of so many women in our lives like absolutely love this movie and still go back to it to this day, it leads me to believe that they did something correct. So like, even after all these years I mean, it's a 20 year old movie it's still received very, very well and I think that's something that certainly should be celebrated and they need to 100% keep at the core of the sequel, uh, which we keep alluding to, and we'll get to that discussion here shortly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's, uh, it's definitely, it's definitely a conversation point because it's very prominent in the film. I feel like cause I know with your first point I kind of skipped ahead to my second point. With this one I'm like trying not to skip ahead to my third, which was one of my gripes of the film, which I guess, like the feminism thing, does work more often than it doesn't, but in the places that it does, it is like some of the relationships with Andy and the people like her friend group, her boyfriend, like some of those like relationships and some of the things that happen in the film towards the end I'm not saying they weren't like doable, Like they're not deal breaking, but I don't know it was. I kind of had a little bit of a disconnect and I maybe I don't know if that's putting feminism at the forefront and that's why maybe some things happen there, but it was something about the relationships at its core that I just didn't really love.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you felt that way at all, but that was actually going to be my third point, which was just kind of like my gripe. I didn't really love the way that everything ended, as much as the journey to get to that ending and some of that had to do with the relationships with Andy and other characters, other lesser characters that aren't in that main core of four that we talked about, and I just don't think those relationships were as strong. And because maybe she has such a feminist character, maybe that had something to do with it. What's your take on that? But yeah, that's kind of like my third point getting meshed in here as well, because it is.
Speaker 2:It is on topic screen time she is absolutely praised for, and for good reason, still to this day, for this performance, and I think what really would have helped is like just kind of expanding on that relationship between Andy and Emily which we start to see and then, unfortunately, obviously, like she gets hit by a car which was a crazy, like twist. I did not see, I did not see. Remember, you know that Family Guy meme where, like Stewie and Brian are like twist. I did not see, I did not see. Remember. You know that family guy meme where, like Stewie and Brian are like sending the other dog off to the sunset, like there she goes, there he goes, brian Off to live his own life. Oh my God, he got hit by a car. That's how I felt when that happened. So like you see their relationship start to blossom a little bit at like the gala and you're like, oh cool, like they're going to be friends, and then you know obviously, um, you know she has to make some very, very difficult decisions. So I definitely see you kind of what you're, uh, what you're discussing there and what you're alluding to, I think, with with the film coming, you know, like you said, in a very specific time we're talking about the mid-2000s, like the very early 2000s, and not a lot of films are putting, like you know, career pressure, personal sacrifice when it comes to women, like front and center in a whole lot of movies. A lot of films, in terms of their stories, were like pretty cut and paste and they were obviously very male driven. So, um, and also offering like different points of career between Andy, Emily and Miranda. I really enjoyed that well, so I definitely see what you mean when it comes to some of those relationships.
Speaker 2:Because for my third takeaway, I want to talk about this the relationship that is front and center well, I wouldn't say front and center kind of tossed to the side because of Andy's journey and that is with her boyfriend. And this is a very, very like not controversial topic, but a heavily debated topic in terms of who is the real villain of this movie. Leading into the film, the first time that I watched it, I know the discourse was that he sucks, he's holding her back doing all of this. And I also found a really, really interesting Reddit thread about somebody who had also watched the movie just a couple years ago.
Speaker 2:I also found a really really interesting Reddit thread about somebody who had also watched the movie just a couple of years ago and was talking about how they didn't really feel like he is necessarily this evil person I forgot his name, but it's not important but like this, this just like terrible person, that's kind of like holding her back. And upon a second rewatch I was like I didn't hate him as much as I did, or I thought I was going to, and I really think that honestly, you talked about them earlier. Their friend, his, her friend group, kind of sucks more than he does, in my opinion. So what was your opinion and what kind of beat do you have on their relationship and how everything was handled? And I also want to discuss the ending as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I mean no, her friend groups are assholes. Ending as well. Yeah, so I mean no, her friend groups are assholes. She calls them assholes because they like take.
Speaker 2:They like take her phone, like they're in fucking high school right throw her phone after giving, after gifting a two thousand dollar bag, that pissed me off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that pissed me off, I think they. So the relationship I don't think was strong in the way they executed, like their parting really, and the way that that kind of all went. And if you're doing it for the sake of, like you know, individuality and all that like if you're trying to go for that, I'm not, I'm just saying I don't know that it fully landed for me.
Speaker 1:I think the relationship between andy and her boyfriend was something that happens in a lot of relationships, where you just kind of like, especially at the beginning they're kind of a thing, but are they really serious? And then it kind of feels like maybe they're serious, but they're both starting to see the changes with the job. Like she's going from just saying I just got to make it through this, it's just a job, just because, like, I don't love it, I don't want it, I'm just doing it, and then she kind of starts to change and he starts calling out those changes and then there's confrontation. So like it felt there were a lot of regular relationship elements that were there, but it's just something about the way that it all unfolded for me that I haven't quite put my finger on, and maybe on a second watch I'll figure out what that exactly is, because again we're talking about All of the deeper lined Themes of this movie. I don't really know that all of that has to play a part, but maybe it does.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and to be and to piggyback on what you're saying Like ambitious young woman in the big city Is not a original Like story that has never been told before. You know we're we're obviously very used to. Again, we're gonna. We're talking about tackling more julia roberts movies in the very near future.
Speaker 1:we know we're very familiar with this archetype, so though I will say it was very bold of this movie to try to go the princess diaries route and try to make us believe that anne hathaway wasn't attractive when she got there.
Speaker 2:Like kind of crazy, I know Kind of crazy. Pull there. Yeah, anne Hathaway, like you fat slob in a sweater. It's like hello. She's telling you you're not going to fit in this.
Speaker 1:I don't think we have anything in that size. It was like hello yeah.
Speaker 2:Anne Hathaway, objectively one of the most beautiful women on the planet. So, yeah, definitely didn't buy that Again.
Speaker 1:I think we were on the tail end of her playing these type of roles. So it worked. But I think I could also feel it like it was very much the tail end of her doing those type of roles, because it's like just no longer believable. It's almost satire at that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'd be like putting like like on an armus and something like in.
Speaker 1:Like a live action version of the ugly duckling like that's what we're doing now.
Speaker 2:We just throw glasses on women and be like, oh, you're pretty without those glasses. Yeah, so nate is his name, by the way, which again, I didn't have to bring up, but you really went out of your way to find that one well, I pulled it, I was I already.
Speaker 2:I mean, I obviously have imdb up so I just switch tabs. But yeah, so and listen. Like in new york city, it feels like he shouldn't be so surprised that this is like a route that she has to go. Like he is in a very competitive field as far as you know, cooking, and then, you know, becomes a sous chef at the end of the movie and she is trying to be a journalist in the entertainment capital of one of the two entertainment capitals of the entire world. So like for him to not kind of like maybe even see this coming, like she's gonna have late nights when she's a like a journalist at a newspaper or another magazine as well, so like I don't, I didn't, uh, I didn't think he should have been as blindsided as he. Like does he not have late nights working at a restaurant?
Speaker 1:I don't know, see, no, I kind of disagree because I feel and again, this is only off of one watch through, so maybe I feel differently on a second but I feel like it was pretty clear that it wasn't the job and the toll of the job that that it was taking on her in their relationship changes.
Speaker 2:It was.
Speaker 1:No, it was taken away, it was her lack of accountability on just saying like this is me now, like I do, like this, I do want this like.
Speaker 1:She did that in ways, but it was such a tonal shift from how she started the job and she never really like actively brought him onto the train of hey, I'm pivoting, my fashion's going to change, my personality is going to change, my life direction is going to change. My goals, my ambitions, all of that Like it's one thing. When she's being drug across the carpet, you know my goals, my ambitions, all of that. Like it's one thing. When she's being drug across the carpet, you know by her hair, unwillingly so, when she's in full control of all of the things that she's doing for Miranda, like I don't know. I just feel like it was very clear that he was more upset about that and I think people lose that because of the theme of the movie and the messaging of the movie, what it's going for. I think they just kind of like ignored a very clear comment. I think when they break up, he makes that comment of like I just want you to be honest that we have nothing in common anymore.
Speaker 2:Like just be honest with me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah yeah, and it's like then she breaks up with him and then sleeps with the guy like immediately after.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's France, so like, did it count? It doesn't count on US soil, no, yeah it doesn't count, no, it's fine.
Speaker 1:Also, you know, Simon Baker, that's, you know devilishly handsome, sure would.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. Maybe nate should also just try not being a fucking dork that would mean they can give that a try.
Speaker 1:But she was. She was a dork in a sweater to start the movie no, I know she was dating? Yeah, she was dating, it was equal footing that's true.
Speaker 2:That's true, you know, because ann hathaway, that's love.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because ann hathaway could not attract him.
Speaker 2:Obviously, selena kyle. Nah, they could have not attracted him.
Speaker 1:Obviously, selina Kyle nah, they could have at least given her some of the teeth and the fucked up unibrow from the Princess Diaries. They could have done some of those like the bushy eyebrows they could have like the frizzly hair. They could have really done her up if they wanted to go that route and just fake us one more time. But they didn't even do that.
Speaker 2:No, well, it was all about fashion time, but they didn't even do that. No, I mean, well, that was it was all about. It was all about fashion. It really went back to the fashion in her, in her choices, and like I really love that scene where miranda like dresses her down about the sweater, like I thought I I love that. That's a great scene point of the film as well.
Speaker 1:So, uh, that yeah, that that was probably my favorite scene, next to stanley tucci telling andy like you're not cut out, like you don't want, that's why she hates you Like. Those two scenes were very strong early on for me and probably scenes I'll remember about this movie for a long time.
Speaker 2:How about Miranda just throwing out probably what was at least $120 steak? I was like man, that looks good. I really love the subplot also of her getting an advanced copy of Harry Potter.
Speaker 1:That was crazy.
Speaker 2:Very much. I love that. But yeah, those are our main takeaways. I do also want to talk about the ending here. You know, obviously there's a whole bunch of things happen and I really love the realization of Andy coming, or Andy coming to the realization like, oh, this is when Miranda says I see a lot of me in you and she's like, oh shit, like she. That's when she comes to that moment, eric, that you're, that you're wishing that she came to earlier. When having that discussion with forgot his name again, nate, that's what you wish she had come to that realization earlier. When he, you know, when she's out in the street and having that conversation with him and in her being, like what are you talking about? Like, everybody wants this, everybody wants to be us, and then Andy immediately like proving her wrong and, you know, going about her life and correcting things and all that.
Speaker 2:I very much enjoyed that. I guess just the whole thing about France is, it all just comes and goes so quickly and then we're at the end. So, even though I very much enjoyed the ending and it's already an almost two hour movie so like, how much more are you really going to add to what I think is a very clean and compact story. So what were your feelings on the ending? Do you think it was a little rushed, or how did you feel when the credits rolled?
Speaker 1:It was extremely rushed. Yeah, I felt the ending was somewhat cliche. Honestly. I'm not saying we didn't build up to that, but if you look at the back half of the movie, what were a lot of the redeemable qualities that Andy was displaying To make her?
Speaker 2:No, it was rough towards the end.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. She felt fully into it and victimizing herself. Even Miranda's character tells her at one point like you, you're you're doing. I think it might've been in the car where she's like, yeah, you did this, you did this to Emily, like, yeah, you do this. This is the, this is the world you live in. I don't know that that was enough to be like, oh, she had that realization that like, I don't know it's like, really it's not a bad ending. I just thought we could have done a lot more to pad up the ending, to be a little bit stronger. That's really what it comes down to and that's ultimately.
Speaker 1:One of my only minor gripes with this film is some of the relationships with the lesser characters in this film, and then the ending could have had a stronger landing point. For me, it just again, you're right, we go to Paris, shitty things are still happening. There's really no, not no sign of redemption. She's also not too far gone. So like I do understand that, but I don't know it. Just it didn't feel like we got from here to here very smoothly and that there were still some gaps that could have been filled in. Yeah, it was just a very like neat ending.
Speaker 2:you know, like I just wipe my hands of that and I I go back to my normal life, quote unquote. So which, again I I think the happy ending in this, again in a very in what is essentially relatively formulaic, when it comes to, again, ambitious young woman, it gets really difficult job changes things about. Her realizes she did wrong, like it didn't have to be anything like incredibly, like mind bending or mind altering, but yeah, it just seemed like it was like just a little bit too neat of a resolution and she didn't necessarily have to fully deal with the consequences of her actions, because of course, nate, you know they have that reconciliation. But it is great that I love the moment at the end, though, where she gets the job and she gets that recommendation or she learns of the recommendation from Miranda. They have that little tiny, tiny meet cute from across the street when she gets in the car you see the little smile from Miranda. I thought that was really really solid as well. But yeah, it's just kind of a rushed ending and would have liked to see a little bit more obviously like she gives the clothes to Emily, and I think that's a transition into the final thing we'll talk about before we get into scores is what do we expect out of a sequel? This is the world we live in now. Obviously, I'm excited to see these characters return, all three of them.
Speaker 2:Stanley Tucci Is Stanley Tucci in the sequel? I have to look that up. Where do they go from here, like at this point? I'm not sure what the time jump is, but like you have to see Emily in like in a really predominant role. You have to see that she has grown and she she cannot enter this movie still as an assistant. She has to be some sort of like, really, really successful. All this grinding, getting hit by a car cannot be for nothing, please.
Speaker 1:No, I wholeheartedly disagree. You still want her to be down. She's got to be an assistant and she's still got to be working for her.
Speaker 2:There's no other scenario for Emily Blunt in the sequel.
Speaker 2:No, that's exactly how it should be. Well, I mean, so what do you feel? You asked me this, I think a few weeks ago, like how do I feel about there being a sequel? If you told me, like it was, whether or not I wanted it, if I had a choice oh, stanley Tucci is in this thing, god, I would say, like we don't necessarily need a sequel to the Devil Wears Prada. Am I going to be seated day one? Absolutely, but what do you think about this? And they've also added some other people to the cast, such as Lucy Liu and another big name who I'm, I think, pauline Chalamet there's more Chalamets BJ Novak, and then, of course, you know the returning characters as well. So what do you feel about his sequel and what do you think could be done here, if anything?
Speaker 1:I mean a sequel, I think might work for this. This was like, again, early pre-2010. So early 2000s still. Maybe it could work.
Speaker 1:I just feel like I don't think this movie is as in much of a time capsule, as like Pretty Woman, for example, which again we talked about, like our correlation to our reaction to that film. I just don't know what would be really enticing about it. Like, are we going to learn more about Miranda? Because some of the appeal, for me at least, of Miranda is the ambiguity of it all. Like I definitely think that that is part of her character's appeal is we don't fully unravel, unlayer all of the elements of you know that onion of a character. I don't know. Do you do that again, andy? Was there a lot of character development where I just talked about? I felt like we kind of did a quick 180 back to normal at the end. Do I want to see that version of the character? No, I'd be more interested in seeing an Andy that is more like a Miranda now, but that's not the route they went with the end of the movie Like a journalistic Miranda.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe she.
Speaker 2:Emily is her assistant. We're just torturing Emily Blunt in this sequel.
Speaker 1:Yeah Listen, maybe she still goes down that route, maybe they do that turn, I don't know. It's really interesting, but this movie is not as quite in a time capsule. Although I thought the time period was fitting for when this movie came out and kind of the way it was filmed. I just don't know what that would look like. I feel like it'd be a little bit too glossy, a little bit too glamorous, which is really really ironic considering it's a movie about fashion.
Speaker 2:Oh shit. Okay, here is the synopsis from IMDb. Do you want it?
Speaker 1:Give it to me, baby.
Speaker 2:Follows Miranda Priestly's struggle against Emily Charlton, her former assistant turned rival executive, as they compete for advertising revenue amidst declining print media while Miranda nears retirement.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I'm not interested in that.
Speaker 2:Not interested.
Speaker 1:Where does Andy come in Mind?
Speaker 2:your own fucking business, you know, maybe they're like maybe they're both trying to like hire her for it does say like they're fighting over media. So like maybe she's like this editor in chief now. So for like so they're fighting for.
Speaker 1:No, no, I hate that, I hate that.
Speaker 2:I disagree. I'm going to be there. What is Stanley Tucci doing in this movie? Yeah right, you're going to see one clip with Stanley Tucci and it'd be like absolute cinema. I'm in, I'm in.
Speaker 2:Well, let's get to the scores and how we felt about this movie First. Let's get to the score and how we felt about this movie First. Let's get to how everybody else feels about the Devil Wears Prada. Surprised that the Tomatometer score is a lot lower than I thought it would be, eric 75%, still certified fresh on the Tomatometer 76% Popcorn Meter score. So that's user score 7 out of 10 over on IMDb score. So that's user score seven out of 10 over on IMDb. And on a letterbox it is holding strong at a 3.8 out of five. I'll let you go first, eric. Um, obviously I hold this film in very high regard when it comes to my score. Where did you land for your letterbox score? Oh, I did not add this to my list. I mean, even though I've seen it. I'll add that right now. But while I do that, where did you score this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the Devil Wears Prada Really enjoyed this movie. I was really teetering around Like this movie. I thought when I left it it was like a three and a half. It just feels too low. It just feels too low. So I feel confident that it's a solid four and that is exactly what I gave it. Phil, I'm pretty sure, based off of what I believe your score is, we're going to have the opposite literally bringing up Pretty Woman again. It's just going to be the opposite scenario for us. I was a little bit higher on Pretty Woman. I love that fucking movie.
Speaker 2:You really do. Eric is in this crazy pretty woman era, and I'm not mad about it. It's just like I just was not expecting it in 2025, neither was I.
Speaker 1:neither was I, and I think, again, you enjoyed it, but, like you, even though we're only like a half point difference, you're literally acting that way. I think I'm gonna act that way whenever you bring up the devil's wear prada, as like a goodfellas territory. I'm like what the fuck? Like? It was good, but, jesus, you really liked that movie. That's exactly what's happening here. We both, though, enjoyed both of these films, and the Devil Wears Prada Really glad that I finally checked it out. It's been a bucket list movie for us, something that constantly. It's one of those movies that isn't exactly like known worldwide. I don't think. I think a lot of people know about. I'm not saying nobody knows this movie, but it's not like the big hitters that we've done before, but for us it's always in rotation of conversation. So it was really a bucket list item for the podcast, and I'm glad that I got it done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is a good, good comparison, because even though I also gave Pretty Woman a four, you gave it a four and a half, which is what I've given. The Devil Wears Prada again, it is creeping into like just one of my favorite films of all time. Do they stick the landing completely clean? No, definitely not, but the performances and the story are so strong that I will go back to this time and time again. And, yeah, honestly, what we probably align on right now, eric, is one. We need to watch more Meryl Streep and two I keep seeing Aaron Brockovich clips come up on Instagram.
Speaker 1:I told you we got to watch here, I fucking told you, I told you, dude, oh, I can't fucking wait, I'm like so excited, let's watch it now.
Speaker 2:Watch Party right now.
Speaker 1:No, it's absolutely coming up because I really want to see it. I've been seeing clips of it and it looks. It just looks like more great. Julia Roberts, which that's one of the films she's known for, like that's one of her big films. So, yeah, definitely need to do that. Also, talking about Meryl Streep, a couple of films I'll throw out there that she's a part of uh, she voice acted in Fantastic Mr Fox, a movie that's that is on our list come up a lot.
Speaker 2:What the I didn't also. Cj Caleb, from the formerly level playing field, gave this a two and a half, so it gave them worse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we should probably stop talking to him. There's also the 2019 version of little women, which I've heard a lot of good things about.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, me too yeah.
Speaker 1:One of the movies I did see her in that I hated was into the woods. Hate that movie. Also, mary Poppins returns, which was painfully average. Uh, so I really need to increase my intake of films because it's definitely not good. I really shouldn't be talking about Meryl Streep without seeing some more films, and I definitely am seeing the list here.
Speaker 2:We're probably going to have to go back in time to see some of these older ones.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there are a ton into the in time to see some of these older ones yeah. There are a ton, but yeah, Phil, with that being said, we have a game to play. Let's do it. It's called More Like this we're using Letterboxd and IMDb. You're going to have to have some heavy hitters on this one for me.
Speaker 2:Oh wait, where does sorry, where does the Devil Wears Prada end up on your list for Late to the Party?
Speaker 1:Ah, I knew we forgot something and I literally couldn't think of that. I was like, oh, we must be ready to move on For Late to the Party. I have this movie listed, 12 out of 39.
Speaker 2:So this movie listed 12 out of 39. So in the upper tiers, right behind Spirited Away and right above John Wick.
Speaker 1:My face didn't even mean to do that, you just said Spirited Away and I was like, and you immediately got like grotesque.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yep, it's number five for me, right behind Paddington 2, which is an outstanding film, stefan, and right in front of Shawshank, redemption. So, yeah, we're approaching the 40 mark, which we'll get to in October, and, yeah, it is a stacked list as far as movies that are on here. Pretty crazy, I think this is the so we're going to have to start talking about, like people that are appearing multiple times. So this is like what? The second time for emily blunt right, because we did edge of tomorrow edge of tomorrow, do we?
Speaker 2:have any other repeat people here, let's I mean, harrison ford doesn't really count yeah, because that's the indiana jones films movies, but I mean technically shawshank, robert de niro, joe pesci is matthew mcconaughey and any of the other ones? No, yeah, I guess is emily blunt, our first repeat uh appearance that can't be. Oh, robert de niro yeah, we forget about that film, nicholas.
Speaker 1:Constantly Both Top Guns. So again kind of cheating there. Oh, tom Cruise, and Edge of Tomorrow as well. What's?
Speaker 2:the Top Gun. Oh, there you go. Yeah, so he's up there too. So yeah, so not our first Okay.
Speaker 1:And Okay, gotcha, gotcha, well, yeah, anyway, yeah, let's get to our game all right, this game is called more like this, where we find similar films recommended by letterboxd and imdb and we rank them against this movie to see would you rather watch this or that? So, phil, I don't know how many movies on here you have seen. There's also, I guess, unsurprisingly but kind of surprisingly a lot of rom-coms on here. So yeah, giving you a little bit of a taste of what to expect, but I'll try to stay away from the rom-coms at the beginning as much as I can. Some of them are hard though, so if they're not strictly rom-coms, the first one, are you ready? Let's do it. The devil wears Prada or legally blonde.
Speaker 2:Oh, the Devil Wears Prada, because I enjoy the Legally Blonde musical more than the movie, even though I'm excited for the movie. No, it's returning as a TV series and it's a prequel, which doesn't make any sense. So yeah, devil Wears Prada, for sure.
Speaker 1:Very much a choice. Would you rather watch the Devil Wears Prada or Mean Girls?
Speaker 2:Shit. The original, the good Mean Girls, right, not the musical.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, no, yeah. The musical movie that should be the musical itself, the musical theater version.
Speaker 2:Excellent Movie, terrible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, oh my gosh, Miranda Priestly versus oh my gosh, gosh. Why am I forgetting the name of the character in in Mean Girls, that Regina George?
Speaker 1:Regina George versus.
Speaker 2:Miranda Priestley is a crazy super bracket bros.
Speaker 1:Episode let's go. Yeah, too bad, that podcast is never happening again.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go Mean. I love Mean Girls and that was peak Lindsay Lohan too, oh, wow, wow, that's great.
Speaker 1:What are you rating Mean Girls? Probably a four and a half. I'm kind of scared.
Speaker 2:The original Mean Girls. That's crazy. Purely on vibes. No, I hear you Okay.
Speaker 1:Would you rather watch the Devil Wears Prada or Crazy Rich Asians? Oh, you're such a dick. You're such a dick. I didn't, what'd you?
Speaker 2:say to fuck me. For this is the list, it's on the list. Devil Wears Prada. I love Crazy Rich Asians, but it you know it does get a little Betrayed. My culture for white women it's anne hathaway. No, stanley tucci betrayed my culture.
Speaker 1:For stanley tucci, let's not get it, man uh between between uh accusing you of uh betraying your asian heritage and our manly talks about feminism. This episode episode is not going very well for us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, especially since we're talking about just mostly Stanley Tucci, it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1:I feel like Stanley oh.
Speaker 2:I forgot Hunger Games. God, he's so good.
Speaker 1:Would you? Would you rather watch the Devil Wears Prada or Barbie?
Speaker 2:Devil Wears Prada yeah.
Speaker 1:I love Barbie, but Devil Wears Prada.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love Barbie, but Devil Wears.
Speaker 1:Prada. Would you rather watch the Devil Wears Prada or the Princess Diaries? Princess Diaries yeah, okay, would you rather watch the Devil Wears Prada or Pretty Woman?
Speaker 2:Devil Wears Prada.
Speaker 1:but yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, or Pretty Woman, devil Wears Prada but yeah, I mean Tough, yeah, yeah, all right, now we're going to go rapid fire on a couple that I mean they kind of fit. I guess this one makes the most sense. I don't know that you've seen this, so I'll just ask the Devil Wears Prada or Cruella.
Speaker 2:I've not seen Cruella.
Speaker 1:I feel like you would like Cruella a little bit more after watching this, but it's objectively not a great movie.
Speaker 2:The Emma Stone one. Yeah, I forgot that. Came and went people like it.
Speaker 1:I don't, but you might like it because it's kind of got those same vibes are there dogs in it?
Speaker 2:are there any Dalmatians in Cruella?
Speaker 1:no spoilers for Cruella here You'll have to. I'm telling you, it's more like the Devil Wears Prada than 101 Dalmatians, is what I'm explaining. There's literally Emma Thompson, is literally Meryl Streep in that movie, basically. So, except actually evil, emma Stone, no, emma Thompson is in that movie as well. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, and it's like a. There's a fashion thing to it.
Speaker 2:Anyway, we've talked too much about Cruella here, yeah, this is a mystery, so sorry, some plot we got into.
Speaker 1:Apologies. Would you rather watch the Devil Wears Prada? Or how to Lose a Guy in 10 Days?
Speaker 2:Devil Wears Prada.
Speaker 1:Would you rather watch the devil?
Speaker 2:wears prada, or 10 things I hate about you. Devil wears prada. There's two things I hate about you.
Speaker 1:The j-lo one no, that's the one with uh heath ledger and um 10 things I hate about.
Speaker 2:Is that kate hud? No, that's not kate hud, no what's her name?
Speaker 1:I don't know. She, she, she has an act. Uh, julia Stiles.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I love Julia Stiles, but Devil Wears Prada.
Speaker 1:The Devil Wears Prada, or 13, going on 30?.
Speaker 2:Devil Wears Prada.
Speaker 1:The Devil Wears Prada or the Notebook.
Speaker 2:The Devil Wears Prada, okay.
Speaker 1:Are there any other ones? Maybe we could talk about the what Women Want the movie with Mel Gibson and he can read women's minds.
Speaker 2:Let's not talk about Mel Gibson in 2025.
Speaker 1:Respectfully what Women Want. Not a bad film. Not a bad film, not as bad as you would think.
Speaker 2:Probably bad for the time I gave it a three for whatever that means. Oh, Helen Hunt, that's who? Oh, dude, Helen Hunt.
Speaker 1:Actually Johnson is in this. I used to love me some Helen Hunt.
Speaker 2:There's some Eric Moore for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I think that's pretty much it. All these other ones are kind of like hitches on here. I don't know why that would be brought up New York City. You've seen Crazy Stupid Love. Right, yeah, that, or the Devil Wears Prada.
Speaker 2:Hmm, because crazy stupid love is a four and a half for me. I love that. I think I have. I think I've also given it a four and a half. That movie's fantastic because it's just one of the most fun experiences I've ever had watching a film. It's, I think I would go with crazy stupid love. Yeah, it is. Um, yeah, I wish I could relive that twist all over, just, over and over again. Maybe it's it's up there with like yeah, I also over and over again. Maybe it's up there with like yeah, I also have the four and a half. It's up there with like one of the best movie twists ever. And if you're ranking, like if I could erase a movie moment in your mind and watch it again, it's up there. It's up there. Don't call her that. No, no.
Speaker 1:David Ling Hawkins.
Speaker 2:I can tackle some. Yeah, um, it'd be up. It'd be up there. We should like do a ranking of like moments that we would want to erase from our mind, because it would be like something about like infinity war end game and then be like crazy stupid love. That'd be be fun that'd be crazy but yeah no, that is our game.
Speaker 1:A lot of different movies that came up and, uh yeah, phil phil, you saw most of them, so that that game worked out really well for us and most of the cruella.
Speaker 2:So I guess, I gotta, I guess, let cruella no. December 2025, late to the party.
Speaker 1:You're watching Whiplash first. I'll tell you this this movie is essentially Whiplash, except Whiplash has like no fun in it. It's like zero. There's like zero fun. But JK Simmons is so fucking good, Like Meryl Streep is so good in this movie.
Speaker 2:Get the fuck out of my face before.
Speaker 1:I fucking destroy you. It's funny, unintentionally, like uncomfortably, where this movie's just kind of like, oh that's shitty, but you know there's still some humor in it. That movie's uncomfortably funny at moments but yeah, it's much, much more aggressive. So I actually think Whiplash is a lock for you to like. So we will see, we will see.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that will be coming up soon for sure. So there you have it, folks. The Devil Wears Prada crisis averted. Eric enjoyed the movie and, yeah, we will see the sequel in 2026. So we'll see how that pans out.
Speaker 2:What do you think about the Devil Wears Prada? Did you see it when it came out? Did you see it more recently? What do you think about the devil is proud. Did you see it when it came out? Did you see it more recently? What do you think about stupid nerdy boyfriend? What are your thoughts on that?
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